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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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  • #3962
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Sam Kade wrote: »

    What a shower of ejits protesting over a concert :mad:

    Yeah these rural scum should be stabbing eachother and sexually assaulting one another like respectable concert goers.


  • #3963
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Muise... wrote: »
    No, it doesn't. No Tribunal can give a verdict that will apply in the future to things that have not yet been done. You'd still have to prove their incompetence, and you're not doing that. They followed the legislation properly in this case, even though an unpopular decision had to be made. That is the opposite of corruption.

    Pull the other one. DCC waited until two weeks before the concert to give any indication they had any problem with it, while at the same time accepting the submission of forged objections.

    "He has told Cork's Red FM that he was "shafted" by Dublin City Council.
    He said: "It was never flagged to me that anybody said 'you have got a serious problem here', and I stand over that.
    "I still think I was shafted by Dublin City Council. I had the licence application in 14 weeks before."
    The promoter said he was very careful with the application.
    He said: "We went through it meticulously, every detail that they wanted was there.
    "If they had known that (there were problems with the application), they could have turned round and said 'this ain't gonna fly', and for them to claim that they did tell me that is ludicrous.
    "I would never have run with it then."

    breakingnews.ie


  • #3964
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Yeah these rural scum should be stabbing eachother and sexually assaulting one another like respectable concert goers.

    Why do you assume they are rural?


  • #3965
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Yeah these rural scum should be stabbing eachother and sexually assaulting one another like respectable concert goers.
    They seem more like city scum ;) Listen to the wan with the duuuuu-blin accent


  • #3966
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    I'd believe aiken over the already proven corrupt liars that are DCC anyday.

    "He has told Cork's Red FM that he was "shafted" by Dublin City Council.
    He said: "It was never flagged to me that anybody said 'you have got a serious problem here', and I stand over that.
    "I still think I was shafted by Dublin City Council. I had the licence application in 14 weeks before."
    The promoter said he was very careful with the application.
    He said: "We went through it meticulously, every detail that they wanted was there.
    "If they had known that (there were problems with the application), they could have turned round and said 'this ain't gonna fly', and for them to claim that they did tell me that is ludicrous.
    "I would never have run with it then."

    breakingnews.ie

    He stands to lose millions...he would say that.
    The ins and outs of this was discussed all over the internet and people where even betting on the outcome of the planning process, for Aiken/Croke Park and Brooks to suggest that they where not aware is indicative of them lying or them being severely incompetent themselves.
    From my experience if a management company got wind of any controversy around their asset, they would be all over it like a rash...that is their job.


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  • #3967
    The Aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    ..........

    So good you posted it twice, 4 minutes apart. :pac:


  • #3968
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    muddypaws wrote: »
    Why do you assume they are rural?
    He stupidly presumes that everyone who follows country music are from the country.


  • #3969
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Pull the other one. DCC waited until two weeks before the concert to give any indication they had any problem with it, while at the same time accepting the submission of forged objections.

    "He has told Cork's Red FM that he was "shafted" by Dublin City Council.
    He said: "It was never flagged to me that anybody said 'you have got a serious problem here', and I stand over that.
    "I still think I was shafted by Dublin City Council. I had the licence application in 14 weeks before."
    The promoter said he was very careful with the application.
    He said: "We went through it meticulously, every detail that they wanted was there.
    "If they had known that (there were problems with the application), they could have turned round and said 'this ain't gonna fly', and for them to claim that they did tell me that is ludicrous.
    "I would never have run with it then."

    breakingnews.ie

    Something a party to the case says on the radio is proof now? :confused:


  • #3970
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    muddypaws wrote: »
    Why do you assume they are rural?

    It was in the Indo!


  • #3971
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It was in the Indo!
    The indo obviously don't know what a Dublin city accent sounds like.


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  • #3972
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    What is it with (predominantly culchies) and this Yankee red neck, we're a laughing stock of Europe, a source of great amusement to those other countries, major cringeworthy.

    Funny we didn't see any of ye taking up this poster for it.


  • #3973
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It was in the Indo!

    The same indo the anti-concert folks are quoting when it suits ? lol


  • #3974
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Funny we didn't see any of ye taking up this poster for it.

    Oh, so thats why you posted what you did? :confused: Or is there some other reason you assume they are rural?


  • #3975
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    muddypaws wrote: »
    Oh, so thats why you posted what you did? :confused: Or is there some other reason you assume they are rural?

    Do you think his comments are acceptable and why no issue with them ?


  • #3976
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    The same indo the anti-concert folks are quoting when it suits ? lol

    I don't see many anti-concert people around here, anti-interfereing with our law people a plenty though.

    The only anti-concert people I can see is Brooks at this stage, he doesn't want to play 3 licenced gigs.


  • #3977
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Do you think his comments are acceptable and why no issue with them ?

    I didn't say I had an issue with your comments, I am merely asking why you stated that they are rural. A simple question.


  • #3978
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I don't see many anti-concert people around here, anti-interfereing with our law people a plenty though.

    The only anti-concert people I can see is Brooks at this stage, he doesn't want to play 3 licenced gigs.

    DCC have made a proven mockery of the law time and time again, so lol @ holding them up as some shining beacon of integrity, efficiency and honesty.


  • #3979
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    muddypaws wrote: »
    I didn't say I had an issue with your comments, I am merely asking why you stated that they are rural. A simple question.

    Until you reject his comments as unacceptable, and explain why you don't question him, it would be a bit stupid to answer any of your "questions"


  • #3980
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    DCC have made a proven mockery of the law time and time again, so lol @ holding them up as some shining beacon of integrity, efficiency and honesty.

    where in this case have they made a mockery of the law?


  • #3981
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    If I point out to you in legislation that Aiken did in fact break the law, will you acknowledge that you are wrong, or will you do what EOTR does, and just ignore my post?

    Yawn...

    You think you're the first to raise that point or something? Like I said the last time it was ridiculously brought up:
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »
    I'm talking about laws that are traditionally enforced, not covered in dust.

    I've been at gigs in Marley Park where days before where still subject to licence.


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  • #3982
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Until you reject his comments as unacceptable, and explain why you don't question him, I don't have to answer any of your questions.

    OK, I reject his comments as unacceptable, I apologise profusely to you, but I didn't see that post, as I tend to skim over a lot in this thread, as it is so busy.

    Now, please can you explain why you stated they are rural. Thank you.


  • #3983
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    where in this case have they made a mockery of the law?

    Just for starters, making a decision based on forged planning objections, while agreeing with the promoter during their meetings that he had met all their requirements, and giving no indication whatsoever there was any problem, or any changes that should be made.


  • #3984
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    muddypaws wrote: »
    OK, I reject his comments as unacceptable, I apologise profusely to you, but I didn't see that post, as I tend to skim over a lot in this thread, as it is so busy.

    Now, please can you explain why you stated they are rural. Thank you.

    Because when RTE interviewed scores of people during the ticket buying process the reported remarked they were all rural. Do you have a problem with rural people ? I don't. It is interesting that you decided to jump on my comment and not his, and I've yet to see you question him for them ?


  • #3985
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Just for starters, making a decision based on forged planning objections, while agreeing with the promoter during their meetings that he had met all their requirements, and giving no indication whatsoever there was any problem, or any changes that should be made.

    Nanci Griffith has a song called Last of the True Believers. I'm not entirely sure why but you put me in mind of it.


  • #3986
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Calina wrote: »
    Nanci Griffith has a song called Last of the True Believers. I'm not entirely sure why but you put me in mind of it.

    Maybe because you prefer to attack the poster when you're stuck ?


  • #3987
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Because when RTE interviewed scores of people during the ticket buying process the reported remarked they were all rural. Do you have a problem with rural people ? I don't. It is interesting that you decided to jump on my comment and not his, and I've yet to see you question him for them ?

    You find that interesting? You really do need to get out more, why don't you go to a concert - oh wait ...............


  • #3988
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    muddypaws wrote: »
    You find that interesting? You really do need to get out more, why don't you go to a concert - oh wait ...............

    I'll gladly spend my money abroad now instead thanks . . .


  • #3989
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Maybe because you prefer to attack the poster when you're stuck ?

    It's a bit tragic that you see it as an attack.

    But in any case there's no point in trying to have a discussion with you as

    1) you have decided that DCC are corrupt but have not proven that their licensing decision was a corrupt decision in this case

    2) you think it's not corruption to have inconvenient decisions over ruled when they favour what you want to achieve.

    3) you appear to think that no one was against this concert from the outset.

    4) you don't appear to accept that cancelling three concerts when you don't have to is rather poor business practice.


  • #3990
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Calina wrote: »
    It's a bit tragic that you see it as an attack.

    But in any case there's no point in trying to have a discussion with you as

    1) you have decided that DCC are corrupt but have not proven that their licensing decision was a corrupt decision in this case

    2) you think it's not corruption to have inconvenient decisions over ruled when they favour what you want to achieve.

    3) you appear to think that no one was against this concert from the outset.

    4) you don't appear to accept that cancelling three concerts when you don't have to is rather poor business practice.

    After the insults failed, now I see that now you are reduced to pretending to speak for me . . .


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  • #3991
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Just for starters, making a decision based on forged planning objections, while agreeing with the promoter during their meetings that he had met all their requirements, and giving no indication whatsoever there was any problem, or any changes that should be made.

    They did not know about the forgeries until they sent receipts to people who then said they had not signed submissions; this did not cancel the non-forged submissions.

    There is no proof that the promoter was told any such thing, and one of the requirements is a public consultation process which neither the promoter nor DCC can control.

    Sorry people will miss gigs they were looking forward to, but this disappointment doesn't change what happened and no amount of desperate attempts to argue the case should get Brooks on that stage under these circumstances.


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