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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.

    Guess he didn't read the brown envelope clause.

    Was he though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.

    Guess he didn't read the brown envelope clause.

    citation required for him being told it would be a mere formality.

    The fact that it wasn't a formality, btw, is evidence against your assertion of corruption but that's another day's work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.

    Guess he didn't read the brown envelope clause.


    Who told him that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.
    Even Peter Aiken confirms your post is a pile of nonsense.
    Peter adds he had meetings with Dublin City manager Owen Keegan in relation to the Brooks concerts.

    And he led you believe that five concerts would be okay? "He didn't lead me to believe that," Peter says,


    Proof


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.

    Guess he didn't read the brown envelope clause.

    How long have Aiken been getting licences? If this office is corrupt or has been corrupt maybe the likelihood is that Aiken was distributing 'brown envelopes' over the last 50 years and that this time...at long last they weren't accepted?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭secman


    the same way you can about a world class selling artist

    Apart from Ireland and US where else in the world would there be any demand ? And as I typed Ireland my heart sank a little ,really really am bemused by his blind support over here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Even Peter Aiken confirms your post is a pile of nonsense.


    lol I suppose you can always ignore the actual headline . . . .

    You should work for DCC, you'd be perfect for them

    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue "


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.

    Guess he didn't read the brown envelope clause.
    First point is disputed.
    Second is defamatory!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    The Stone Roses would.

    That would be great but not a hope, their Phoenix Park gig didn't sell out and it's half the capacity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    secman wrote: »
    Apart from Ireland and US where else in the world would there be any demand ? And as I typed Ireland my heart sank a little ,really really am bemused by his blind support over here.

    Come back to us when you sell 190 million records . . . .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    First point is disputed.
    Second is defamatory!

    DCC are internationality known and famous for their planning corruption and scandals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Even Peter Aiken confirms your post is a pile of nonsense.




    Thats interesting, seems as though we've all been wrong about this whole thing, reading that, Aiken isn't saying the shows will bring €50m into the Irish economy, he actually said it would be €50m per show. Now I'm not an economist, and my maths isn't great, but each concert goer would be spending around €625?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    lol I suppose you can always ignore the actual headline . . . .

    You should work for DCC, you'd be perfect for them

    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue "
    I have just proven to you that the only person who mattered never told him this. If you cannot see this then there is nothing more I can do for you.
    Keep throwing slander at DCC. I am sure you can back your allegations up in court.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    I have just proven to you that the only person who mattered never told him this. If you cannot see this then there is nothing more I can do for you.
    Keep throwing slander at DCC. I am sure you can back your allegations up in court.:rolleyes:

    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue " - You can try to ignore the headline all you wish.

    The planning tribunal proved all we need to know about DCC and planning corruption in Ireland. Even the planning objections DCC accepted were forged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    What is it with (predominantly culchies) and this Yankee red neck, we're a laughing stock of Europe, a source of great amusement to those other countries, major cringeworthy.

    IIn the week where you have innocent Palestinians murdered by Israel and bigots up the north celebrating their "culture" (sic) not to mention Greyhound workers still locked out, etc, etc news that actually matter yet we're subjected to this circus in the media who have to take a long hard look at themselves

    Im sure they have their own threads and wouldn't appreciate GB discussion in there as it would be considered off topic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue " - You can try to ignore the headline all you wish.

    The planning tribunal proved all we need to know about DCC

    We ignore the headline because the actual story refutes it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Christ you people are stooping low..

    The president of a hospital clearly thought Brooks was a soft touch and squeezed him for $500,000 to build a women's centre and even sweet talked him about putting up a plaque for his mother to secure the cash.. After seven years, Brooks found out they had never used the money for a women's centre at all and had used the money for other projects, none of which included a plaque honouring the late Mrs.Brooks. This hospital was in his hometown by the way and so obviously would have meant a lot to him. A jury agreed with him and awarded him $1m (which included his original donation).

    Took money from the sick and dying. I suggest applying to a red top for a position, as you clearly have what it takes.


    It was his home town. All 12 jurors admitted that they knew who he was. He claimed that the money was donated anonymously and without strings attached yet he also claims that a building was to be not only named after his mother, her name would be in neon lights on the hospital building, so hardly an anonymous donation at all. It was one persons word against anothers.

    Suing a hospital is as low as it gets really. He got double what he donated, that money will have come out of the hospital budget and will have affected the poorest of the poor. Jesus, GB fans will ye please wake up and see the tacky fat bastard as the cheap money grabbing lard ass prick that he really is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    We ignore the headline because the actual story refutes it.

    Or rather it selectively suits

    Either the newspaper, it's reporting, the article and its headline is reputable and accurate, or it's not, which is it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I think everyone needs to have a read of Gene Kerrigan's article in todays Sindo.

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/gene-kerrigan/superstar-garth-brooks-charlie-in-a-cowboy-hat-30427041.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Either the headline and the article are reputable and accurate or they are not, which is it ?

    Both, He was never led to believe he wasn't getting the license is a true statement.

    But so is owen keegan never told him he was getting them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I think everyone needs to have a read of Gene Kerrigan's article in todays Sindo.

    Agree, so everyone can remind themselves what a fact less personal opinion column from the Indo looks like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Agree, so everyone can remind themselves what a fact less personal opinion column from the Indo looks like.

    I think you need to go and look up what "factless" means.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Both, He was never led to believe he wasn't getting the license is a true statement.

    But so is owen keegan never told him he was getting them.

    So is the headline accurate and therefore article accurate and factual or not ?

    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    @EOTR

    I see you still haven't acknowledge this.

    In fact refusing to accept you were proven wrong, just shows everyone how pathetic your arguments are, you post constantly on these threads, telling everyone else they are wrong, but when someone proves to you there you are wrong, your ignore it and keep on criticising others.

    Must be Sad to live with this mentality.

    I've decided that it this is just a pointless argument, Folk like EOTR clearly just respond to what they want to and will never admit they are wrong.

    So won't be back posting on here unless he replies (as he's skipped over it about 3 times at least he won't).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    So is the headline accurate and therefore article accurate and factual or not ?

    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue "

    And DCC insist that from the outset they made the promoter fully aware of their concerns regarding holding 5 concerts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    And DCC insist that from the outset they made the promoter fully aware of their concerns regarding holding 5 concerts.

    DCC are internationally well know for their truthfullness, competence, and track record in planning matters . . . lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    So is the headline accurate and therefore article accurate and factual or not ?

    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue "

    Nice attempt at deflection, What you said was
    And was told repeatedly and led to believe, like every other concert in Ireland, it would be a mere formality.

    Guess he didn't read the brown envelope clause.

    So who told him? It wasn't Owen Keegan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    .
    I was lead to believe I would get the 5 licences no problem
    Not by me you weren't
    He never did lead me to believe that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    I've decided that it this is just a pointless argument, Folk like EOTR clearly just respond to what they want to and will never admit they are wrong.

    So won't be back posting on here unless he replies (as he's skipped over it about 3 times at least he won't).

    Garth Brooks is a man who sued a hospital because they didn't use his anonymous donation the way he wanted it. I reckon if he turned out to be a serial killer that wears peoples faces the fans on here would still make excuses for him.
    The article in the sindo summed it up nicely. Garth Brooks hasn't heard the word "no" since 1990.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    "Garth Brooks promoter Peter Aiken insists he was led to believe getting a licence for fourth and fifth shows would not be an issue " - You can try to ignore the headline all you wish.

    The planning tribunal proved all we need to know about DCC and planning corruption in Ireland. Even the planning objections DCC accepted were forged.

    Just on this before I sign off on this thread - I will quote what aiken said... "He didn't lead me to believe (that it would be ok to get a licence)"
    Peter adds he had meetings with Dublin City manager Owen Keegan in relation to the Brooks concerts.And he led you believe that five concerts would be okay? "He didn't lead me to believe that," Peter says, "because they [Dublin City Council] are not going to say that, because you have to submit all the details. If I say, 'I want to do a Garth Brooks concert on a certain date', they say, 'get it in on paper and we'll have a look at it -


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