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Landlord entering premises without permission.

  • 02-07-2014 7:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭


    I rent a house on my own and I think my landlord is letting himself in to look around or whatever when I'm not in. Is there anything I can do or any way of proving this? I haven't asked him directly as I'm presuming he will deny it as it's a breach of the lease agreement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭Mr_Red


    set up a webcam to record your front door when you are out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Mr_Red wrote: »
    set up a webcam to record your front door when you are out

    Yes, I thought of a motion activated camera, but I don't know anything about them really. I want something that will record or take a pic discreetly without him knowing. Webcams usually light up when they're recording don't they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭Mr_Red


    Yes, I thought of a motion activated camera, but I don't know anything about them really. I want something that will record or take a pic discreetly without him knowing. Webcams usually light up when they're recording don't they?

    even better getting the reaction of his face lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Yes, I thought of a motion activated camera, but I don't know anything about them really. I want something that will record or take a pic discreetly without him knowing. Webcams usually light up when they're recording don't they?

    Tape over the light?

    Good free software here. http://www.ispyconnect.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    A simple small piece of paper or matchstick caught in the door on the outside that will fall only if it's opened might be sufficient if he's the only other person who has a key ?

    Or one of these ;)

    TSC116W.jpg

    Ken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Thanks for the links.
    ZENER wrote: »
    A simple small piece of paper or matchstick caught in the door on the outside that will fall only if it's opened might be sufficient if he's the only other person who has a key ?...Ken

    As far as i know he's the only one with a key. Why I'm suspicious is that the door to the box room that I don't use needs to be really slammed hard to close it properly, otherwise it pops back open again when the front door is closed. I've had it slammed shut for weeks but today when I came home the door was ajar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,537 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    As far as i know he's the only one with a key. Why I'm suspicious is that the door to the box room that I don't use needs to be really slammed hard to close it properly, otherwise it pops back open again when the front door is closed. I've had it slammed shut for weeks but today when I came home the door was ajar.

    Temperature shift?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,314 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I've had it slammed shut for weeks but today when I came home the door was ajar.
    Anything in there missing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭pm1977x


    Check he hasn't beaten you to it on the hidden camera front...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    pm1977x wrote: »
    Check he hasn't beaten you to it on the hidden camera front...

    lol


    No nothing missing afaik, he'd be looking to see if I'd moved anyone in. Don't think it's a temperature change - I've lived here over a year and slamming the door closed has always kept it closed - the latch catches fully with the striker plate, otherwise closing it normally the latch only partly catches on the striker plate and it appears as if the door is closed properly but it isn't. Anything is possible I suppose. I'd like to be able to set up some sort of camera to be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Setup Eircom Phonewatch or similar monitored alarm system. Be unavailable when they try to contact you to check if it's a false alarm and leave him to explain to the gardai why he's somewhere he has no legal right to be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭pointelle


    can you change the alarm code , things can get pretty creepy with landlords in my experience or you can change the lock yourself you know it doesnt matter if you're meant to give him a key because if he/she isn't sneaking about they won't know, know what I mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    pointelle wrote: »
    can you change the alarm code , things can get pretty creepy with landlords in my experience or you can change the lock yourself you know it doesnt matter if you're meant to give him a key because if he/she isn't sneaking about they won't know, know what I mean?

    I can't get into the manage menu of the alarm so I can't change the alarm code but changing the lock is an idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    I can't get into the manage menu of the alarm so I can't change the alarm code but changing the lock is an idea.

    Most leases have clauses prohibiting changing or adding more locks on doors.

    Your best option is a cheap network IP camera that you can monitor from anywhere using a phone app and also set it up to email you when it senses motion. Most will attach several still photos to the emails. Easy enough to set up. Just follow the instructions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭aunt aggie


    This has happened in the last two houses I have rented. Landlords letting themselves in to get mail or store items in a spare room. They dont see it as a problem.

    Maybe take the route of approaching the landlord to see if anyone else has keys? Tell him you noticed things werent as you left them and you're worried about your personal safety. He'll either admit what he did or not, but either way it might put him off wandering around the house uninvited.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭pointelle


    Yes it's neat as how would they know as they would knock to call on you. It's completely your right to feel secure sometimes you just have to do things yourself. Hope you have peace of mind soon I know how creeper out you must feel. Peace! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭chopper6


    Say it to him that you dont want him creeping around when you're not there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    chopper6 wrote: »
    Say it to him that you dont want him creeping around when you're not there.

    I'm sure you mean to say it to him that it's illegal for him to be on the premises during your tenancy without your agreement?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭chopper6


    athtrasna wrote: »
    I'm sure you mean to say it to him that it's illegal for him to be on the premises during your tenancy without your agreement?


    He'll probably threaten to raise the rent or evict the OP though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    chopper6 wrote: »
    He'll probably threaten to raise the rent or evict the OP though.

    Which would also be illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,314 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Does he come regularly on certain days? Maybe wait wearing a towel for him, and when he does let himself in, screech and go full-blown-bunny-boiler mode? I'm betting he won't come in again then?
    athtrasna wrote: »
    chopper6 wrote: »
    He'll probably threaten to raise the rent or evict the OP though.
    Which would also be illegal.
    Probably, but it'll be his word against hers when he does a rent review.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    the_syco wrote: »
    Probably, but it'll be his word against hers when he does a rent review.

    Only allowed one a year and must be in line with market prices


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    If all the windows are shut when you close the hall door might be possible that it's opening the door inside


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,314 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Where is the door into the attic? And what is in the attic? It's not unknown for landlords to use attics to store stuff (even when there are tenants there).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mummy5


    do you live in an apartment or a house? change your locks, switch the back door lock with the front door. I did it in my last house as I was concerned about the same thing with my landlord ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    mummy5 wrote: »
    do you live in an apartment or a house? change your locks, switch the back door lock with the front door. I did it in my last house as I was concerned about the same thing with my landlord ;)

    Changing the locks without the landlords permission is not allowed as per the RTA 2004. Please do not come on here and give advice that contravenes that act.

    Thanks

    /Moderator


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    Same keys work just in opposite doors ?! Why not ?

    Ken


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