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  • #122
    FTA69
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    While I agree with you about the rediculous promenacnce give in all the papers to the Garth Brooks farce vis a vis the deaths in Gaza, I disagree with your angle regarding who is to blame re the current tit for tat attacks by Gaza against Israel (and the Israeli response to those attacks).

    Full credit to Netanyahu for showing restraint (re a ground invasion) in the face of 'full on' provication (by some) in Gaza.

    And what do you call the policy of annexing and seizing Palestinian land in order to build illegal settlements? How would you react if your country was basically being stolen in chunks before your very eyes, or your ancestral farm was being bulldozed to build houses for people from Brooklyn or Russia?


  • #123
    end of the road
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    While I agree with you about the rediculous promenacnce give in all the papers to the Garth Brooks farce vis a vis the deaths in Gaza, I disagree with your angle regarding who is to blame re the current tit for tat attacks by Gaza against Israel (and the Israeli response to those attacks).

    Full credit to Netanyahu for showing restraint (re a ground invasion) in the face of 'full on' provication (by some) in Gaza.
    it won't last, loony ben is just waiting for the right moment to start his campain of slaughter against the people of gaza

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #124
    Nodin
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Respective military strength has nothing to do with it.

    Intent has everything to do with it.

    Hamas wish to kill Israelis - any Israelis...adults, children, palistinian Israelis, Jews, visiting tourists with every rocket. The fact that the rockets are aimless is just good fortune.

    Israel wishes to kill Hamas fighters and disable rocket launch sites and equipment with every missile. It doesn't wish to kill innocent civilians. It avoids launch missiles where innocent casualties are likely. But innocent people (as ever in these circumstances) still get killed.

    It's all about intent.


    Ahahahahahahaha. O the lolz.


  • #125
    Nodin
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    While I agree with you about the rediculous promenacnce give in all the papers to the Garth Brooks farce vis a vis the deaths in Gaza, I disagree with your angle regarding who is to blame re the current tit for tat attacks by Gaza against Israel (and the Israeli response to those attacks).

    Full credit to Netanyahu for showing restraint (re a ground invasion) in the face of 'full on' provication (by some) in Gaza.


    Siding with the colonists eh?

    You know that Israel had killed 14 Palestinians this year, before any rockets or those lads being killed?


  • #126
    Karl Stein
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    The Israelis want the West Bank and they'll have it.

    Everything else is just lies.

    The Palestinians have been reduced to little more than lab rats in the great 'how-to-make-a-fortune-from-suppressing-people' 'security' business.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7G1_CcV3fU


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  • #127
    pO1Neil
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Indeed.

    My sarcasm was to point out the nonsense of comparing the situation in Ireland during the troubles to Gaza today. And to confirm, in particular, that missiles were not launched from the south into the north (thus removing the need for an RAF strike.

    Yes, that's true because the IRA were a much bigger threat to Britain than Hamas to Israel. No dome would protect England from IRA bombs. Yet no airstrikes were dropped on "suspected" "not guilty "suspected IRA mens homes in the North of Ireland.


  • #128
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    Yes, that's true because the IRA were a much bigger threat to Britain than Hamas to Israel. No dome would protect England from IRA bombs. Yet no airstrikes were dropped on "suspected" "not guilty "suspected IRA mens homes in the North of Ireland.

    I...

    I don't even...

    OK.

    :confused:


  • #129
    pO1Neil
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    I...

    I don't even...

    OK.

    :confused:

    I don't think anyone knows what your waffle on about anymore including yourself & your zionist pals on here.

    The IRA never launched a bomb attack from within in the Republic. How hard is that to get into your head? They didn't have that capability to anyway. There mortars only went about 250 yards if that. I'm pretty sure England is more than 250 meters away.


  • #130
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    The IRA never launched a bomb attack from within in the Republic. How hard is that to get into your head? They didn't have that capability to anyway. There mortars only went about 250 yards if that. I'm pretty sure England is more than 250 meters away.

    Glad you're clear on that, at least.

    This makes your non-stop attempt to compare the situtation in Gaza to Ireland during the Troubles ridiculous.

    Not everything is about the IRA pO1Neil.


  • #131
    Valetta
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    pO1Neil wrote: »
    I don't think anyone knows what your waffle on about anymore including yourself & your zionist pals on here.

    The IRA never launched a bomb attack from within in the Republic. How hard is that to get into your head? They didn't have that capability to anyway. There mortars only went about 250 yards if that. I'm pretty sure England is more than 250 meters away.

    How was Lord Mountbatten killed? :confused:


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  • #132
    Nodin
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    Valetta wrote: »
    How was Lord Mountbatten killed? :confused:


    I think he means firing rockets from the southern side of the border. Could be wrong though.


  • #133
    old hippy
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    moxin wrote: »
    The media(especially the British media) gave far more coverage to the kidnapped Israeli teenagers than the revenge murder of the Palestinian. Also they never gave any coverage to the 5 or so Palestinians that died at the hands of the Israelis just before the kidnapping of the Israeli teenagers.

    Its as if Israelis are superior human beings to the Palestinians.

    Oddly, the BBC is constantly accused of being biased in favour of Palestine. They just can't win.
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    I'm aboslutelty sick of seeing the type of crap posted in the OP. It's been regurgitated by some folks I have on facebook. It's just like that Kony stuff and shares to cure cancer all over again.

    The media and news should be primarily directed towards local issues. For us Garth Brooks currently makes a part of that. But as stated in here and some other threads there are more concerning Irish issues which should have a higher presence in our news prodding at those who should be accountable.

    Honestly, fúck Isreal, fúck Palestine. There have been attempts to direct peace between them yet they are always twitching, waiting to let loose on each other. It doesn't matter any more who's right or wrong over there.

    I think it matters to a lot of people. Garth Brooks isn't going to cause mayhem and murder, is he?
    pO1Neil wrote: »
    Yes, that's true because the IRA were a much bigger threat to Britain than Hamas to Israel. No dome would protect England from IRA bombs. Yet no airstrikes were dropped on "suspected" "not guilty "suspected IRA mens homes in the North of Ireland.


    Please, no. Just no. Not this thread.


  • #134
    end of the road
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    Valetta wrote: »
    How was Lord Mountbatten killed? :confused:
    he was killed

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #135
    RobertKK
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    No one forced Hamas to start firing rockets at Israel. Hamas knew what the response would be, they are ultimately responsible for the deaths of Palestinians.
    No country would accept rockets being fired at it. Firing them at a military power is just stupid.


  • #136
    Valetta
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    end of the road wrote: »
    he was killed

    How? By a bomb launched by the IRA from within the republic.


  • #137
    old hippy
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    No one forced Hamas to start firing rockets at Israel. Hamas knew what the response would be, they are ultimately responsible for the deaths of Palestinians.
    No country would accept rockets being fired at it. Firing them at a military power is just stupid.

    Whilst I abhor violence, are the Palestinians supposed to accept their status as second class citizens whose land has been stolen & whose people are systematically oppressed?


  • #138
    urabell
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    Garth is close.

    The Palestinians are far away.


  • #139
    old hippy
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    urabell wrote: »
    Garth is close.

    The Palestinians are far away.

    And how much bloodshed are we to expect from the Brooks debacle?


  • #140
    LordSutch
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    old hippy wrote: »
    Whilst I abhor violence, are the Palestinians supposed to accept their status as second class citizens whose land has been stolen & whose people are systematically oppressed?

    Rather stupid (cunning)? idea to start lobbing rockets into Israel and not to expect a typical Israeli response!

    Stupid because they know they are going to be hit back hard, or cunning because they know they will make the Israelis look like the bad guys as the death toll rises in Gaza and the sympathy goes towards Gaza . . . .


  • #141
    end of the road
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    No one forced Hamas to start firing rockets at Israel. Hamas knew what the response would be, they are ultimately responsible for the deaths of Palestinians.
    No country would accept rockets being fired at it. Firing them at a military power is just stupid.
    no, israel started it all by slaughtering raping and driving people from their homes to take more territory, people could have lived with pre 1967 borders but no israel want more and more, israel are responsible for the deaths and use jewishness as a tool of emotional blackmail to get away with it

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • #142
    end of the road
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    Valetta wrote: »
    How? By a bomb launched by the IRA from within the republic.
    not from the republic

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #143
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    humanji wrote: »
    No, they don't. They have the ability to make precision attacks. They don't use it because they don't care. Why should they? Their own people are being massacred. Hate drives them.

    Thats rubbish.

    If Israel didn't care about civilian casualties they wouldn't use expensive guided munitions, they'd do it on the cheap with dumb iron bombs and level the place and be home in time for dinner.

    Hamas launch their rockets from schools, homes, hospitals and other public places with the approval of their own people ~ there is a culture of martyrdom in Islam which makes this a perfect good way to die.

    Now I'm not making excuses for Israel, I hate this battle too & I hate that civilians are once again going to bare the brunt of it, but that's simply how these strikes go.


  • #144
    end of the road
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Rather stupid (cunning)? idea to start lobbing rockets into Israel and not to expect a typical Israeli response!

    Stupid because they know they are going to be hit back hard, or cunning because they know they will make the Israelis look like the bad guys as the death toll rises in Gaza and the sympathy goes towards Gaza . . . .
    nobody is making the israelies look like the bad guys but the israelies themselves for being terrorists

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #145
    LordSutch
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    end of the road wrote: »
    nobody is making the israelies look like the bad guys but the israelies themselves for being terrorists

    Hamas are the ones with terrorist tendencies. Israel won't abide being needled with indiscriminate rockets being launched at them from within Gaza.


  • #146
    end of the road
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    Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: »
    Thats rubbish.

    its not
    Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: »
    If Israel didn't care about civilian casualties they wouldn't use expensive guided munitions, they'd do it on the cheap with dumb iron bombs and level the place and be home in time for dinner.

    they are doing that, the expensive guided munitions are easier to get hold of for them though, and no doubt america has told them either use such weapons or we will withdraw support.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #147
    end of the road
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Hamas are the ones with terrorist tendencies.
    israel are terrorists also

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #148
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    end of the road wrote: »
    they are doing that, the expensive guided munitions are easier to get hold of for them though, and no doubt america has told them either use such weapons or we will withdraw support.

    So are they or are they not using guided missiles?

    You're not clear.


  • #149
    oak5548
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    Am I the only one who is sick of seeing the pure propaganda and hatred towards Israel on this website and elsewhere?
    People seem to be allowed to say "fúck Israel, and fúck Israelis" + call them every name under the sun.

    If we said that about any other country, of if we said fúck islamic people then it would be instant bans all around.

    So fúck Hamas, blow them to smitherines I say.


  • #150
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    end of the road wrote: »
    its not



    they are doing that, the expensive guided munitions are easier to get hold of for them though, and no doubt america has told them either use such weapons or we will withdraw support.

    I'll only reply to you for my own amusement since you make little sense in anything you've posted thus far.

    So you have all this knowledge from your experience in the region or some knee jerk reaction to some electronic intifada facebook meme's?.


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  • #151
    wes
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    No one forced Hamas to start firing rockets at Israel. Hamas knew what the response would be, they are ultimately responsible for the deaths of Palestinians.
    No country would accept rockets being fired at it. Firing them at a military power is just stupid.

    You could turn that around and say that Israel is responsible, as they are expanding outside there border, and no one is forcing them to expand outside there border, and as such all deaths are Israel's fault.

    No one would accept a foreign nation stealing your land and slowly ethnically cleansing them.

    Just as easy to turn that around.

    BTW, 2 teenagers murdered by the IDF in the West Bank, before the most recent mess started, and no rockets being fired from there, and Fatah security forces even works with Israel to prevent attacks, and they get more settlements and violence for there trouble.


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