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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    nm wrote: »

    Obviously #1 = right to appeal, so the greater good can have a say in future

    I'm all in favour of an appeal process but not if it's going to be managed by a vested interest like a politician trying to win some votes. Any appea has to be totally independent with no political influence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Iang87 wrote: »
    You know nothing about ticket prices clearly

    I do, but to the people who bought them they're an expensive purchase.

    A lot of his fans wouldn't be regular concert goers.
    It'd have been a 'big night out' for quite a lot of middle aged country and western fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Under the worldwide deal, Garth, who in 2000, was certified by the RIAA as the#1-selling solo artist in U.S. history,
    Artist.................... Certified Units in Millions
    BEATLES, THE................. 177
    PRESLEY, ELVIS.............. 134.5
    BROOKS, GARTH............. 134

    RIAA Wesite

    He's either lying or since 2000 Elvis has sold more albums from beyond the grave than Garth Brooks has in retirement.Maybe this is why he is going digital


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    I do, but to the people who bought them they're an expensive purchase.

    A lot of his fans wouldn't be regular concert goers.
    It'd have been a 'big night out' for quite a lot of middle aged country and western fans.

    All the above has nothing to do with the DCC in fairness and shouldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    I'm all in favour of an appeal process but not if it's going to be managed by a vested interest like a politician trying to win some votes. Any appea has to be totally independent with no political influence.

    The evidence (years of successful events) shows that if you use the system and consultative process properly and listen to what you are being told then there should be no need for an appeals process.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    nm wrote: »
    And given that there is a media circus, there is thousands and thousands of people that want it changed, it has cost the country 50mil or whatever the figure is, it has resulted in 70k tourists either cancelling or being put out/wasted trip, then maybe.. just maybe.. it should be changed to a better process?

    Obviously #1 = right to appeal, so the greater good can have a say in future

    NO! It shouldnt! You still dont get it do you?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dandyo


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    RIAA Wesite

    He's either lying or since 2000 Elvis has sold more albums from beyond the grave than Garth Brooks has in retirement.Maybe this is why he is going digital

    Are you sure this is accurate Peppa?
    There is no reference to Logue and McCool anywhere on this web site


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    nm wrote: »
    And given that there is a media circus, there is thousands and thousands of people that want it changed, it has cost the country 50mil or whatever the figure is, it has resulted in 70k tourists either cancelling or being put out/wasted trip, then maybe.. just maybe.. it should be changed to a better process?

    Obviously #1 = right to appeal, so the greater good can have a say in future

    There's nothing particularly wrong with the process. They had no permission to run the extra gigs and they just assumed they'd get it. There was nothing to indicate that was possible.

    Blaming the system or the council isn't really very fair.

    To be perfectly honest too, Dublin isn't dependent on tourism and actually if you factor in the amount of disruption to traffic, people not going to town to spend in the shops as per normal etc. The €50m predicted spend can actually end up being a lot less of an impact on the local economy than you'd think.

    Ireland in general isn't very dependent on tourism at all but where it does have a big impact is in rural areas where it creates local jobs. So, in reality a big concert in Dublin doesn't necessarily have very much impact.

    What it will do however is damage our reputation as a concert destination. But, we don't really have much of a reputation as that anyway.

    I think Ireland should be promoting itself as a festival destination and also needs to really figure out what it's doing with nightlife. This whole notion of having binge drinking until 2am at which point everyone's chucked out on the street (as applies in most towns and cities here) does nothing for building as sophisticated night life and clubbing scene that could be attracting lots of high spend tourism and creating jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    The evidence (years of successful events) shows that if you use the system and consultative process properly and listen to what you are being told then there should be no need for an appeals process.

    Yeah that's true I suppose. But it still wouldn't hurt just in case you get a ridiculous decision with no merit (not that this was one of those)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Yeah that's true I suppose. But it still wouldn't hurt just in case you get a ridiculous decision with no merit (not that this was one of those)

    I think in 'Event Planning' it would just make it even harder and more fraught to get any gigs going. But no harm in proposals if somebody has a 'interference proof' way of doing it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    nm wrote: »
    And given that there is a media circus, there is thousands and thousands of people that want it changed, it has cost the country 50mil or whatever the figure is, it has resulted in 70k tourists either cancelling or being put out/wasted trip, then maybe.. just maybe.. it should be changed to a better process?

    A major purpose of a democracy is to ensure that the rights of a minority are not over-ridden by the wants of a majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭CapricornOne


    Apparently refunds have already started - people who bought via Viagogo and Stubhub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Apparently refunds have already started - people who bought via Viagogo and Stubhub

    They're not event organiser refunds at all, that's just tout sites covering themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,768 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    About time, this turkey is goosed and the sooner the powers that be come out and say so the better so everyone can move on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Apparently refunds have already started - people who bought via Viagogo and Stubhub

    They're second hand sites.

    Original owners has to wait till Tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    dandyo wrote: »
    Are you sure this is accurate Peppa?
    There is no reference to Logue and McCool anywhere on this web site
    Or Michael Jackson - he only sold 300,000,000 albums. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    NO! It shouldnt! You still dont get it do you?!

    Yes I do, and yes it can, and probably will be in the future after this spectacular mess, whether you can accept it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dandyo


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Or Michael Jackson - he only sold 300,000,000 albums. :D

    The Rocking Gazelles? (Hi Gigi)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Faolchu


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    RIAA Wesite

    He's either lying or since 2000 Elvis has sold more albums from beyond the grave than Garth Brooks has in retirement.Maybe this is why he is going digital

    no its to do with original releases not "digitally remasterd" versoins of the same album or Gretest Hits 527. basically all his ablums sold as thy were released or something like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dandyo


    Three Elvis's !!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Faolchu wrote: »
    no its to do with original releases not "digitally remasterd" versoins of the same album or Gretest Hits 527. basically all his ablums sold as thy were released or something like that
    Some achievement by Elvis to overtake him so - even death can't halt the King :D
    He's probably be looking for a month in Croke Park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dandyo


    Good point - I wonder if Garth Brooks was dead would he get the go ahead for all 5..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dandyo


    Garth Brooks: And no matter where you are, you always say It's the wildest town in the whole damn world.
    Enda Kenny: So when you said it in Dublin last year you didn't mean it?
    Garth Brooks: Yeah sure I did, but only because Dublin really is the wildest town in the whole damn world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    dandyo wrote: »
    Garth Brooks: And no matter where you are, you always say It's the wildest town in the whole damn world.
    Enda Kenny: So when you said it in Dublin last year you didn't mean it?
    Garth Brooks: Yeah sure I did, but only because Dublin really is the wildest town in the whole damn world

    You mean.....
    YES!!!!! We put the brick on croke park


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    dandyo wrote: »
    Garth Brooks: And no matter where you are, you always say It's the wildest town in the whole damn world.
    Enda Kenny: So when you said it in Dublin last year you didn't mean it?
    Garth Brooks: Yeah sure I did, but only because Dublin really is the wildest town in the whole damn world

    In fairness I don't think Enda would even have the backbone to comeback with a retort :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dandyo


    Woo Hoo - El Salvador


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    All the above has nothing to do with the DCC in fairness and shouldn't.

    Did I say it had? Please read my posts above!

    The planning situation hasn't changed at all and should have been well understood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    iguana wrote: »
    A major purpose of a democracy is to ensure that the rights of a minority are not over-ridden by the wants of a majority.

    Legitimate rights. Not just pathetic selfish nimby fascism..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    I'm all in favour of an appeal process but not if it's going to be managed by a vested interest like a politician trying to win some votes. Any appea has to be totally independent with no political influence.

    I want politicians on any appeal board. Politicians that we vote for. That's what democracy means.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    The evidence (years of successful events) shows that if you use the system and consultative process properly and listen to what you are being told then there should be no need for an appeals process.

    And what about all of the events that did not take place ?


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