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Donkey Oaty · 11-07-2014 02:42PM #1

Well, here's a news story that was just made for AH.

Do not click on it if you are offended by Ulster rugby players blacking up as Ethiopians for amusement purposes.

Harry Palmr · 11-07-2014 02:43PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Well, here's a news story that was just made for AH.

Do not click on it if you are offended by Ulster rugby players blacking up as Ethiopians for amusement purposes.

As bad as those German fans at the World Cup.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/23/article-2665775-1EFFF93000000578-788_634x397.jpg

Nope, I have no idea what the horse indicates.

leeroybrown · 11-07-2014 02:44PM

Ah sure it's Norn Iron. Nothing good ever happens up there and no one really cares what the news says.

Duckworth_Luas · 11-07-2014 02:50PM

Pretty risky donning blackface with those KKK flegers about recently!!!

11-07-2014 03:07PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

As bad as those German fans at the World Cup.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/23/article-2665775-1EFFF93000000578-788_634x397.jpg

Nope, I have no idea what the horse indicates.

It's different on the continent though where there isnt so much american influence, the Dutch still have Zwarte Piet and for them there is no association with racism.

Hazys · 11-07-2014 03:08PM

Blackface racism so hot right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ospJbyYoU

FTA69 · 11-07-2014 03:08PM

Pretty f*cking racist to be fair. But at the end of the day racism isn't confined to the North of Ireland either like.

razorblunt · 11-07-2014 03:19PM

Paddy Wallace should list White Chicks as his favourite film. Let's see Ulster Rugby apologise for that.

Yes, I know, White Chicks in itself is always worthy of an apology regardless.

Tomblyboo · 11-07-2014 03:37PM

Paddy Jackson is a ginger. A ginger black man is kinda ironic, not funny maybe, but ironic all the same.

Nodin · 11-07-2014 03:45PM

'Lets dress up as the Ethiopian running team'. That's a bit of an odd choice, but each to their own

'and one of us will be chained up like a slave' - that's where the thought process involved eludes me.

P. Breathnach · 11-07-2014 03:46PM

Young men being stupid - and wrong.

The real question is whether they have learned anything from the reaction to the picture, and if they now can be relied on to behave more responsibly.

UserNo1 · 11-07-2014 04:20PM

There born bigots hard to change . What they see is funny others do not ,explains the huge grins

Guessing the is not many black rugby players in N Ireland

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-07-2014 04:21PM

Idiots.

Duckworth_Luas · 11-07-2014 04:22PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

As bad as those German fans at the World Cup.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/23/article-2665775-1EFFF93000000578-788_634x397.jpg

Nope, I have no idea what the horse indicates.

TIL Sarah Jessica Parker is a Bayern Munich fan

Buzz Killington the third · 11-07-2014 04:27PM

UserNo1 wrote: »

Guessing the is not many black rugby players in N Ireland

Enough of the N word....

RobertKK · 11-07-2014 04:30PM

Surely they should have dressed up as Saudi Arabian women at the Olympics, it would have made a valid point.

Or have pretended to be Americans at the Moscow Olympics in 1980, at least then there would be no photos...

What they did was at the very least stupid.

muddypaws · 11-07-2014 04:32PM

I have a feeling I'm going to get shouted at, but could someone please explain to me how, dressing up and putting make up on is racist? If a man dressed up as Marilyn Monroe and wore false boobs, would that be sexist?

My understanding of racism is that it is a belief that you are superior to someone else due to skin colour.

Buzz Killington the third · 11-07-2014 04:36PM

muddypaws wrote: »

I have a feeling I'm going to get shouted at, but could someone please explain to me how, dressing up and putting make up on is racist? If a man dressed up as Marilyn Monroe and wore false boobs, would that be sexist?

My understanding of racism is that it is a belief that you are superior to someone else due to skin colour.

I wouldn't consider it racist, more so offensive to certain people. But in the words of Stephen Fry:

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f*cking what."

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-07-2014 04:42PM

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

I wouldn't consider it racist, more so offensive to certain people. But in the words of Stephen Fry:

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f*cking what."

I used to love Stephen Fry but he has become an insufferable arrogant prick in recent years - that quote being a good summing-up of same.
One of the most dishonest statements ever. In order not to look like a hypocrite so, he should ensure not to be offended by anything ever again. Except he will be. Because he is gay. And offensive things are often said about gay people. What he means by that quote is that people being offended annoys him only when it's over stuff that *he* personally doesn't find offensive.
There are people who look for offence no doubt, but offence can also be involuntary - in the case of anyone.

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-07-2014 04:45PM

muddypaws wrote: »

I have a feeling I'm going to get shouted at, but could someone please explain to me how, dressing up and putting make up on is racist? If a man dressed up as Marilyn Monroe and wore false boobs, would that be sexist?

My understanding of racism is that it is a belief that you are superior to someone else due to skin colour.

Intent I guess. Generally speaking I don't think people who blackface are all racists. But this particular case doesn't look like it has any intent other than to be controversial (the preserve of people lacking wit) and the slavery reference is pretty belittling.

urabell · 11-07-2014 04:47PM

Plenty of Irish slaves down the years too, wouldn't give a toss if some black rugby player threw on a red wig and fake set of chains so I don't see why anyone would be offended by this carry on now. Dismiss it as stupid all you want but spare everyone you're outrage.

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-07-2014 04:48PM

Memo to all on the internet: Disliking something is "outrage".

Buzz Killington the third · 11-07-2014 04:50PM

Magaggie wrote: »

Memo to all on the internet: Disliking something is "outrage".

I dislike this memo

/grabs pitchfork!

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-07-2014 04:51PM

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

I dislike this memo

/grabs pitchfork!

Such "faux" outrage. I can't read your mind but I have decided, as is the fashion, to call it fake.

inforfun · 11-07-2014 04:52PM

riffmongous wrote: »

It's different on the continent though where there isnt so much american influence, the Dutch still have Zwarte Piet and for them there is no association with racism.

Wrong.
The pc brigade and the ones that like to be offended on behalf of got their claws into that one

urabell · 11-07-2014 05:14PM

Magaggie wrote: »

Such "faux" outrage. I can't read your mind but I have decided, as is the fashion, to call it fake.

'faux' can also mean insincere.

Though you seem to have read the minds of these rugby players in order to establish the racist intent of their actions.

Albertofrog · 11-07-2014 05:20PM

leeroybrown wrote: »

Ah sure it's Norn Iron. Nothing good ever happens up there and no one really cares what the news says.

Generalise much then? :rolleyes:

fryup · 11-07-2014 05:30PM

yet another *ulster prod demonizing* thread

some people on boards never miss a chance to get stuck in...

Stereomaniac · 11-07-2014 05:31PM

I generalise all the time, and I can make the generalisation that that rugby team are total bastards.

Nodin · 11-07-2014 05:32PM

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Enough of the N word....

Shush now. Tommorrow is Landrover Bonnet Dance Day.

Karl Stein · 11-07-2014 06:02PM

urabell wrote: »

Plenty of Irish slaves down the years too,

So that means Irish people can dress up as slaves and mock others, does it?

wouldn't give a toss if some black rugby player threw on a red wig and fake set of chains

A more equivocal act, from an Irish point of view, would be players in the English Rugby team mocking Irish people about the famine. That would be offensive.

so I don't see why anyone would be offended by this carry on now.

There are people they'll be playing against next season in England, Wales, Scotland and France whose not too far removed ancestors would have been slaves who created vast wealth on the backs of their forced labour on threat of torture and murder.

Racists? I'm not sure.

Profoundly stupid? Certainly.

fryup wrote: »

yet another *ulster prod demonizing* thread

You're the first person to mention religion.

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