Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

11-07-2014 10:09AM

Seaba wrote: »

Possibly a bit late in the day, but what I'd love J Henry to come out and say, along the lines of what he said last year when Suarez wanted to leave, "since contracts in England do not count for much, we are taking the position that since we cannot adequately replace Luis Suarez with enough proven, quality signings, therefore weakening our team, whilst simultaneously teams like Arsenal and Chelsea have significantly improved their teams, Luis Suarez is not for sale".

Would take some cojones to do that but I think it's the type of decision that needs to be made!

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

11-07-2014 10:11AM

rob316 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Would some people just accept he is gone, it is beyond speculation its only a matter of time now before it becomes reality with Sanchez sold.

Not sure why the smart reply. He was only making a point.

Mickeroo · 11-07-2014 10:12AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

Didn't Henry come out and say that that was exactly what he did last summer?

11-07-2014 10:13AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Didn't Henry come out and say that that was exactly what he did last summer?

Yeah but was there a clause last summer?

OwaynOTT · 11-07-2014 10:14AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

Last gif I promise

machiavellianme · 11-07-2014 10:15AM

gafferino wrote: »

What zone?

END Zone!!!

googled eyes · 11-07-2014 10:16AM

Don't stop the gifs.

Seaba · 11-07-2014 10:17AM

rob316 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Would some people just accept he is gone, it is beyond speculation its only a matter of time now before it becomes reality with Sanchez sold.

I know it looks like it, and I am not deluding myself, but I'd love to see him do it and stick it to the rest of them.

rarnes1 wrote: »

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

Yes, he believes so.
This is posted in loads of different websites from last year - just picked one:

John W Henry made the following eye-popping remarks:
Luis Suarez is the top scorer in the English Premier League, which is arguably the top soccer league in the world. He had a buyout clause of £40m. Arsenal, one of our prime rivals – this year we’re tied for 2nd … we’re actually 2nd because of goal difference.
They offered £40m+£1. What we’ve found … is that contracts don’t seem to mean a lot in England – actually, in world football. It doesn’t matter how long a player’s contract is, he can decide he’s leaving.
We sold a player, Fernando Torres, for £50m, that we did not want to sell, we were forced to. Since apparently these contracts don’t seem to hold, we took the position that we’re just not selling [Suarez].

Mickeroo · 11-07-2014 10:17AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah but was there a clause last summer?

No idea, reports at the time seemed to suggest that there was and also what Henry said a couple of months ago. The other possibility is it was BS from Suarez's agent at the time and Henry was just trying to make himself look good. Either scenario could be true sure. I don't think Arsenal would have bid for him if they didn't at least think there was a clause.

whatawaster · 11-07-2014 10:18AM

Tusky wrote: »

Allen has contributed almost nothing so far. He may go on to be a good signing but as it stands, that £15m could have been spent much better.

Can't agree with this at all. He made a significant contribution to us last season and was there, and playing very well, in some of our best performances.

He had injury problems at the start of the season, but he was there when Gerrard was out injured (excellent performances away to Spurs and City amongst others), when Henderson was suspended and when we wanted to go 3 in midfield he was a much better performer than Lucas

When you add to that the fact that he can ably cover for Gerrard in the deep midfield role, for Henderson in the CM role and can play further up effectively when we are playing an intense pressing game, then I think he is extremely valuable to us.

Fitz* · 11-07-2014 10:18AM

Why do the players with the best songs always leave?

Luis Garcia, Torres, Maxi, now Suarez... Sturridge better not get a good song now!

MD1990 · 11-07-2014 10:20AM

Pete O'Rourke ‏@SkySportsPeteO

Liverpool in advanced talks with Swansea over Wilfried Bony with player's agent thought to be meeting Liverpool officials. #LFC #swansfc

Looks like we are getting in Bony as Suarez's replacement.

11-07-2014 10:20AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

No idea, reports at the time seemed to suggest that there was and also what Henry said a couple of months ago. The other possibility is it was BS from Suarez's agent at the time and Henry was just trying to make himself look good. Either scenario could be true sure. I don't think Arsenal would have bid for him if they didn't at least think there was a clause.

Actually, Henry did come out and admit there was a clause but just refused to sell iirc.

I'm not sure of the legal side of such clauses tbh.

Turtyturd · 11-07-2014 10:21AM

googled eyes wrote: »

It's still early. The rest will be amused soon

Saptimus Prime hit the nail on the head yesterday....thread has crossed the line into Naked Gun/Airplane territory

Mickeroo · 11-07-2014 10:23AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Actually, Henry did come out and admit there was a clause but just refused to sell iirc.

I'm not sure of the legal side of such clauses tbh.

Apparently Arsenal could have taken him to court over it but it would have been pointless as it would have stretched on past the transfer window. Was a pretty ballsy move from Henry to be fair.

Cjs21 · 11-07-2014 10:29AM

Yay or Nay?

Liverpool ‘want £40million Karim Benzema as Luis Suarez replacement’

punk_one82 · 11-07-2014 10:31AM

Cjs21 wrote: »

Yay or Nay?

Liverpool ‘want £40million Karim Benzema as Luis Suarez replacement’

I don't think it will happen but I'd definitely take him!

whatawaster · 11-07-2014 10:33AM

Cjs21 wrote: »

Yay or Nay?

Liverpool ‘want £40million Karim Benzema as Luis Suarez replacement’

I'd take him, but not at £40m. I don't think he's better than Sturridge.

joe123 · 11-07-2014 10:33AM

Wilfred Bony. Good god almighty.

Not worth near 19 million and is one of the slowest players in the league to boot. Lambert can do what Bony does.

I just don't understand whats going on with our transfer dealings. Overpaying for average players is our game it seems.

I would love Martinez. Even Remy at this stage.

Alfred Borden · 11-07-2014 10:34AM

joe123 wrote: »

Wilfred Bony. Good god almighty.

Not worth near 19 million and is one of the slowest players in the league to boot. Lambert can do what Bony does.

I just don't understand whats going on with our transfer dealings. Overpaying for average players is our game it seems.

I would love Martinez. Even Remy at this stage.

yee are in for remy to according to graeme bailey

rob316 · 11-07-2014 10:34AM

Telling Suarez he cant go to Arsenal is one thing but blocking a move to Barcelona would almost certainly be dragged through the courts. Henry isn't a foolish man he got away with it once he won't go that route again. If Barcelona are willing to pony up the £75m he is gone, it's a great fee.

gafferino · 11-07-2014 10:34AM

whatawaster wrote: »

I'd take him, but not at £40m. I don't think he's better than Sturridge.

Yeah but is he better than Giroud?

5live · 11-07-2014 10:37AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah but was there a clause last summer?

Who knows.

But there was a santa clause last christmas

brevity · 11-07-2014 10:37AM

Not sure he's worth £40M but I'd be happy with us getting players of that quality.

whatawaster · 11-07-2014 10:37AM

gafferino wrote: »

Yeah but is he better than Giroud?

He's good, but he's not THAT good

bicboy6666 · 11-07-2014 10:38AM

every day that goes by in the transfer window and glen Johnson remains a Liverpool player makes me more and more suicidal

Pyjamarama · 11-07-2014 10:39AM

Bony is a beast lads. He won't replace Luis but who would. If be delighted with him. I think people looking for Jackson Martinez over him are almost basing that solely on the fact he plays in a different league. Bony is a far better player IMO.

Bony could be our Drogba.

tomaussie · 11-07-2014 10:39AM

joe123 wrote: »

Wilfred Bony. Good god almighty.

Not worth near 19 million and is one of the slowest players in the league to boot. Lambert can do what Bony does.

I just don't understand whats going on with our transfer dealings. Overpaying for average players is our game it seems.

I would love Martinez. Even Remy at this stage.

From what I've seen I think Lambert is better than Bony.

I refuse to believe there is any meat on this rumor.

Remy is on a different level to Bony and comes with a very low price tag. A no brainer surely.

Tusky · 11-07-2014 10:39AM

Wilfred Bony...good god. When are we going to sign those top tier players that being in the Champions League allows you to sign?

tok9 · 11-07-2014 10:40AM

Benzema for £40 million is way too much imo and that's coming from someone who likes him.

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