Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

markcahill1985 · 09-07-2014 09:29AM

TheDoc wrote: »

Depending on the source it seems either Di Maria or Vidal are the top targets. Couldn't be both could it?

Why not plus Vermaelen, dont for a second think we will sign both, more than likely will get neither but at least the intention is there anyway

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 09:33AM

TheDoc wrote: »

Depending on the source it seems either Di Maria or Vidal are the top targets. Couldn't be both could it?

I'd be surprised, to be honest.

My personal guess is that if we get Di Maria, we will move for De Jong for midfield instead of Vidal.

FutureGuy · 09-07-2014 09:34AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Vidal and Di Maria and you can call time on transfers as far as I'm concerned. That'll do me.

F*ck the CB if that's the cost. :eek:

All the 6-4 wins!!!

dulux99 · 09-07-2014 09:34AM

It will be interesting to see how he hypothetically fits Di Maria, Rooney, RVP and Mata into a regular starting 11, if this is true.

Iseedeadpixels · 09-07-2014 09:34AM

FutureGuy wrote: »

All the 6-4 wins!!!

Sounds like my Sunday League days

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 09:37AM

dulux99 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how he hypothetically fits Di Maria, Rooney, RVP and Mata into a regular starting 11, if this is true.

De Gea
Rafael--Smalling--Jones--Shaw

XXXXXX

Herrera

Mata
---Rooney--RVP--Di Maria.

With Di Maria being given a floating role, similar to what he did for Mardrid on occassion last season. Not sure about the midfield though, I do know Herrera gets stuck in, but a midfield of him, Mata and even Vidal or De Jong could potentially be too open. Mata would need to get stuck in to the midfield battle too.

Larry Wildman · 09-07-2014 09:38AM

We're starting to see the fruit of all those commercial deals fellas.

Plus Financial Fair Play is kicking in so only "proper" clubs can prosper.

The debt is becoming less and less relevant.

Soldie · 09-07-2014 09:44AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

De Gea
Rafael--Smalling--Jones--Shaw
XXXXXX
Herrera
Mata
---Rooney--RVP--Di Maria.

With Di Maria being given a floating role, similar to what he did for Mardrid on occassion last season. Not sure about the midfield though, I do know Herrera gets stuck in, but a midfield of him, Mata and even Vidal or De Jong could potentially be too open. Mata would need to get stuck in to the midfield battle too.

No Evans? He's better than both Jones and Smalling.

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 09:44AM

Soldie wrote: »

No Evans? He's better than both Jones and Smalling.

personal preference, and i'd actually hope a new CB comes in to take one of the spots regardless.

glued · 09-07-2014 09:54AM

Di Maria's best position is as part of a midfield 3.

Spazdarn · 09-07-2014 09:54AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

personal preference, and i'd actually hope a new CB comes in to take one of the spots regardless.

He's better than both, and much better than Smalling imo.

dulux99 · 09-07-2014 09:55AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

De Gea
Rafael--Smalling--Jones--Shaw
XXXXXX
Herrera
Mata
---Rooney--RVP--Di Maria.

With Di Maria being given a floating role, similar to what he did for Mardrid on occassion last season. Not sure about the midfield though, I do know Herrera gets stuck in, but a midfield of him, Mata and even Vidal or De Jong could potentially be too open. Mata would need to get stuck in to the midfield battle too.

That's what I'd be worried about. I think if Di Maria comes in, we could see one of our bigger name players essentially frozen out. I don't know a whole lot about LVG admittedly, but I slightly worry for Juan Mata

Spazdarn · 09-07-2014 09:55AM

Hummels, Vidal and Di Maria.

Feels like I'm playing Football Manager!

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 09:57AM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

He's better than both, and much better than Smalling imo.

Fine, it is hardly important to the current discussion.

FWIW, I believe both Jones and Smalling would/will surpass Evans if they are actually given a run at centre back.

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 09:58AM

glued wrote: »

Di Maria's best position is as part of a midfield 3.

He's done pretty fecking well for the rest of his career as a more traditional wide player, with the move central really only happening since Bale signed for Madrid, so I don't think it an issue.

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 09:59AM

dulux99 wrote: »

That's what I'd be worried about. I think if Di Maria comes in, we could see one of our bigger name players essentially frozen out. I don't know a whole lot about LVG admittedly, but I slightly worry for Juan Mata

If we look to play 433, as in the formation I guess at, Mata could be in trouble regardless of Di Maria coming in.

Brendan Flowers · 09-07-2014 10:07AM

I've posted this formation before but I've updated now to see how I'd fit in Di Maria. Seems the best option to fit everyone in (and Rooney in his preferred position) if the dream happened and Vidal and Di Maria were signed.

bucketybuck · 09-07-2014 10:07AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

De Gea
Rafael--Smalling--Jones--Shaw
XXXXXX
Herrera
Mata
---Rooney--RVP--Di Maria.

Again, Rooney is the one that doesn't fit.

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 10:08AM

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

I've posted this formation before but I've updated now to see how I'd fit in Di Maria. Seems the best option to fit everyone in (and Rooney in his preferred position) if the dream happened and Vidal and Di Maria were signed.

http://i60.tinypic.com/dg2ck5.jpg

Not a fan, no balance to that formation at all.

dulux99 · 09-07-2014 10:11AM

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

I've posted this formation before but I've updated now to see how I'd fit in Di Maria. Seems the best option to fit everyone in (and Rooney in his preferred position) if the dream happened and Vidal and Di Maria were signed.

Realistically, any decent team we come up against will beat us with that. No balance.

StaticAge11 · 09-07-2014 10:15AM

I'd say we could stick with the Diamond midfield formation

De Gea

Rafael---Smalling---Jones---Shaw

Carrick

(or whichever defensive midfielder we sign)

Herrera

Di Maria/Vidal

Mata

Rooney---RVP

That formation could easily be adapted to 3-5-2 to allow the full backs to double as wingers, with the defensive midfielder basicall acting like a 3rd centre half while Rafael/Shaw push forward.
It also could be adapted to a 4-5-1 with Mata/Rooney covering the wings while RVP is the lone striker, but personally I think Mata would be wasted out wide

The_Kew_Tour · 09-07-2014 10:15AM

Beautiful morning.

And may I wish the Orangemen all the best this week.

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 10:15AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Again, Rooney is the one that doesn't fit.

Indeed - I'd sell Rooney, but I do feel even LVG is going to shoehorn him into the side somehow.

glued · 09-07-2014 10:22AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

He's done pretty fecking well for the rest of his career as a more traditional wide player, with the move central really only happening since Bale signed for Madrid, so I don't think it an issue.

Yep but only at Real Madrid did he first begin to play out wide. He started in a midfield three for Benfica.

He's a fine player and we really should go after him if he's available

Mitch Connor · 09-07-2014 10:29AM

glued wrote: »

Yep but only at Real Madrid did he first begin to play out wide. He started in a midfield three for Benfica.

He's a fine player and we really should go after him if he's available

You sure? My memory of him at the time he trasfered to Madrid was that he was an exciting winger.

A quick google now indicates he played on the wing for Benfica, and was described as a winger when Madrid signed him.

TheDoc · 09-07-2014 10:35AM

Strong indication that Bayern and MAdrid are close to an agreement for Kroos. €25m the rumoured fee and the deal will be announced once the WC finishes and Kroos signs off.

Will be seriously annoyed if that comes to pass, €25m for him is outragously good business, and seriously bad business on our part if we were in with a shout.

TheDoc · 09-07-2014 10:46AM

OUt of interest did Januzaj get any WC playtime?

IncognitoMan · 09-07-2014 10:46AM

We probably were in for him and he probably chose real over us. Same goes with fabergas. This is the aftermath of last season. Can't blame him either moving to the European champions