Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES

namloc1980 · 08-07-2014 08:14PM

Hotfail.com wrote: »

I love the way they try to insinuate that people power is a bad thing. "Tiny neighbourhood" "ironically named Croke park"

Damn socialism at work again.

08-07-2014 08:15PM

Mahou wrote: »

I think when the dust settles and calm has been restored, we need to sit down and take a long look at ourselves as a nation.
Big questions need to be asked, even an enquiry if needed. First Question - how on earth do we have so many Garth Brooks fans?

In other words, "How many ticket touts have bought in the expectation of making a killing", will they refund the fans.

Duckworth_Luas · 08-07-2014 08:16PM

Umaro wrote: »

Bizarre decision by Brooks to cancel the remaining three gigs. He could've book-ended his world tour by finishing in Ireland with the other two gigs sometime in 2015. Bit of a diva, to say the least.

Perhaps insurance only covered the cancellation of all five gigs not just two.

In any case Brooks was doing Dublin a massive favour by staging his comeback event here. Many North American cities would have done anything for the positive promotion it would have brought. Huge promotional event for Dublin but all the negativity associated with the place made it a lost opportunity.

Funny what a few slimey landlords from the country can achieve.

Red Nissan · 08-07-2014 08:16PM

Hotfail.com wrote: »

I love the way they try to insinuate that people power is a bad thing. "Tiny neighbourhood" "ironically named Croke park"

You know that some FIVE MILLION people travel to Daytona? Did you know that? Daytona, btw is just a few cars driving around and oval circuit Ad nauseam.

Just sayin like.

drkpower · 08-07-2014 08:16PM

Apologies if this has been answered already (don't think I can bear to go through 20 pages of this thread....!).

Was the decision to cancel the 3 remaining concerts a decision made by brooks alone?

If so, it's hard to imagine that he isn't on the hook contractually to one or other of the other parties (croker, Aiken, ticketmaster) .

pavb2 · 08-07-2014 08:17PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Brooks tour killed by residents of a tiny neighborhood, Ironically named Croke Park

No doubt the residents should be adequately compensated for the inconvenience but they should feel fortunate as there are others who feel obliged to leave their homes and come South at this time of the year With little or no fuss made let alone by sky etc or enda Kenny

sdanseo · 08-07-2014 08:18PM

Gongoozler wrote: »

Have to say I'm glad to see someone in this country sticking to their guns, and procedure. Fair play to Dublin City council. We need more people with a back bone.

You're leaving out a couple of very large pieces of information.

1. The license was refused because of concerns of a minority of residents (300 complained, 900 asked for them to go ahead).

2. The license should have been granted or refused months, not weeks, in advance.

3. The council themselves actually voted in favour of a motion to amend a condition of the license which would have been legal and allowed them to go ahead, but the city manager appears to have ignored the democratically elected Councillors entirely. (Wouldn't mind if someone could shed more light on why or if this happened, las I heard was that the council could compel the city manager to amend, and suddenly they vote in favour yet it still gets cancelled. Confused.)

Flippyfloppy · 08-07-2014 08:18PM

Umaro wrote: »

On the Fox News landing page right now:

I'm quite proud of us. I wish this country had more people like the DCC and the Croke Park residents. Not afraid to stand up to big money trying to ride over them.

Bizarre decision by Brooks to cancel the remaining three gigs. He could've book-ended his world tour by finishing in Ireland with the other two gigs sometime in 2015. Bit of a diva, to say the least.

I get you.

I don't know why anyone is surprised, at the end of the day Croke Park is simply not allowed have more than three gigs a year. One direction used that up.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 08-07-2014 08:19PM

rubadub wrote: »

Indeed its astonishing how they dared do it, knowing fine well the objections in previous years with far less gigs. These cunts thought they were untouchable.

C8nts? For putting on shows that would have brought joy to hundreds of thousands of people all over the country and beyond along with pumping millions into the local and domestic economy? It sounds like you've got a serious chip on your shoulder, or maybe you in live in the vicinity of Croker, I don't know if you know the promoters personally and are in a better position to label them c8nts than I am but for me the ones who are more deserving of the term are the obstinate killjoys who couldn't be reasoned with.

rubadub wrote: »

Imagine Lord Mountcharles "daring" to sell tickets for 6 nights in slane, knowing fine well that there were loads of complaints when he even had 2 gigs in a year before. Just like these attempted 4 more than before in croke park -knowing there were complaints about that previous max.

I would applaud the man.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 08-07-2014 08:20PM

Umaro wrote: »

I'm quite proud of us. I wish this country had more people like the DCC and the Croke Park residents. Not afraid to stand up to big money trying to ride over them.

You have no idea what you are talking about here..

The DCC were prepared to see just one concert cancelled, which would have meant 80,000 ticket holders missed a concert, just so they could save face. How does preventing one concert do any good whatsoever? Other that is, than satisfy their ego.

Fred Swanson · 08-07-2014 08:20PM

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Ranchu · 08-07-2014 08:20PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

All ireland football quarter final weekend sometimes had 6 matches in a Row.Minor match 2 football quarter finals on Saturday, then the same again on Sunday sometimes a quarter final could be played on August which would mean 3 days of matches in a row.A few times there was a match on he bank Holiday Monday

The concerts should have went ahead too many tickets had been sold the Dublin county Council ballsed this one up.they could have let the 5 in a row concerts go ahead and then force the GAA to sign a contract saying there would be no concerts n Croke Park for the next 2 years

It's two days of matches. It's not five in a row and three on work days.

super_furry · 08-07-2014 08:21PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

I would applaud the man.

Maybe so, but the council would rightly say no.

P_1 · 08-07-2014 08:21PM

SoCal MusicLover wrote: »

Garth Brooks and his fans are not wanted there. We're all a big joke to you. Fear not, we will not bother you with our presence. And as someone who had been to Ireland and 5 previous occasions, it will be a long time, if ever, before I dare to come back. But you don't need us or our money, so you'll survive.

That's not correct and you know it, but frankly your attitude is doing you few favours. You simply can't use the lure/threat of your money to bypass planning laws. Maybe you can in San Diego/Los Angeles but it doesn't work that way in Ireland. So if you're going to act like a spoiled, petulant child then frankly, it's not us, it's you.

Red Nissan · 08-07-2014 08:23PM

drkpower wrote: »

Was the decision to cancel the 3 remaining concerts a decision made by brooks alone?

Yes.

However, extenuating circumstances exist. A Garda investigation into possibly criminal activity in the planning objection process. An unconfirmed bizarre deal offered from Dublin City Council.

I see Garth back here in the high court getting his money, and not the other way around.

paddyirish23 · 08-07-2014 08:23PM

This just keeps getting better and better...
DCC went back to him saying he could have 4 nights if he agreed to do them, what was he supposed to think with that sort of suggestion?! Of course he was holding out for the 5 after that they are some joke

zagmund · 08-07-2014 08:24PM

And by the way the use of phrases like "Garth Brooks himself said" or "Jim Aiken himself said" . . . is a throwback to the days of old. Sure it must be true, the parish priest himself said . . .

They are just business people. They will say what they need to say for their business. That's what business people do. I'm not saying it's good, bad or indifferent, it's just what you do.

I do feel sorry for people who had bought merchandising and will lose money as a result. They have been let down by whoever cancelled the 3 concerts.

For everyone else - they will spend money they were planning on spending anyway. Or they will save money they would have spent. The net loss to them is an experience, not money. It's a pity they will miss the experience, but the concerts were subject to license. Who cannot have been aware that 5 concerts was pushing boundaries on a number of fronts when they bought the tickets?

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ThisRegard · 08-07-2014 08:25PM

Just seeing that header Christy Burke on TV again, I laugh every time he says Gareth Brookes. What a dumb ass, and doing it on national TV makes it all the better.

A funeral without a corpse, ironic given his party's murky background.

BorneTobyWilde · 08-07-2014 08:26PM

Will someone please think of the culchies

Red Nissan · 08-07-2014 08:27PM

P_1 wrote: »

That's not correct and you know it, but frankly your attitude is doing you few favours. .

I understand this poster to have been really excited to come to Dublin and was desperately looking forward to it.

I have no reason to doubt his story. In the other thread, he was told that he would not be missed, I guess [if he is genuine] he is upset.

Menas · 08-07-2014 08:28PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

WTF has any of this got to do with a thread on a concert?

Because the poster stated that this omnishambles brought shame on the country. I was explaining what national shame is.

BiffoGooner · 08-07-2014 08:29PM

Red Nissan wrote: »

Yes.

However, extenuating circumstances exist. A Garda investigation into possibly criminal activity in the planning objection process. An unconfirmed bizarre deal offered from Dublin City Council.

I see Garth back here in the high court getting his money, and not the other way around.

Wouldn't surprise me. Some serious dodgyness went on there by the sounds of it. It's funny to hear people say the DCC were looking out for the resident's interests when they were willing to allow 4 shows. Brooks was right to cancel the lot of them in my opinion.

ThisRegard · 08-07-2014 08:29PM

SoCal MusicLover wrote: »

Garth Brooks and his fans are not wanted there. We're all a big joke to you. Fear not, we will not bother you with our presence. And as someone who had been to Ireland and 5 previous occasions, it will be a long time, if ever, before I dare to come back. But you don't need us or our money, so you'll survive.

So you keep saying.

SeanJ09 · 08-07-2014 08:29PM

For some reason, this seems apt.

JP Liz V1 · 08-07-2014 08:30PM

Garth should come to Cork he can play 10 nights in the Marquee

BorneTobyWilde · 08-07-2014 08:30PM

Other countries make things happen,they move mountains to accommodate.
It's sad that no one was capable of doing that to get the 5 concerts on.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 08-07-2014 08:31PM

fullstop wrote: »

I know it is, but it was well known that there was an agreement in place with the residents for 3 concerts a year and they kept adding nights to it, taking the piss really. That's 2 fingers to the residents, who fought back. And if you think it's an embarrassment for the country, you need to get out more.

No need for that, I get out plenty. It's an embarrassment because it makes us look like a bunch of Paddys who couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. That's not an entirely fair of course but that's the thrust that will be put out there in the media tomorrow. It will all blow over in time but it could have all been avoided had there been better licensing laws and concessions made on both sides. Whatever you think about the rights or wrongs of staging five concerts in a row in Croker for the gig to have been refused a license weeks beforehand is absolutely crazy.

fullstop wrote: »

You see, this is a nonsense point. If this was allowed, where does it end? 20 nights of concerts next year, 30 the year after? Ah but it's just a one off.

Of course there's limits to everything, but the way some people are reacting on this thread you would think the promoters are trying to stage a paedophile convention.

ThisRegard · 08-07-2014 08:31PM

BetterThanThou wrote: »

What's the difference between a GAA match and a concert? A GAA match makes a lot of noise, a concert makes a lot of noise, a GAA match causes a lot of traffic, a concert causes a lot of traffic.

**** joke in fairness.

ThisRegard · 08-07-2014 08:31PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Joe Duffy is dedicating the rest of the week to this I believe

He's on a months holiday.

Henry Sidney · 08-07-2014 08:32PM

As an outsider looking in from overseas, this will definitely stop me from wanting to visit Ireland again or to relocate my company there.

Any country that can sell 400k of Garth Brooks tickets is obviously worth avoiding at all costs. He was appalling in the 90s and surely could only be worse now.

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