When might Eircom to enable vectoring on their eFibre/VDSL service?

airuser · 15-06-2014 01:48PM

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airuser · 15-06-2014 01:59PM

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AlanS181824 · 15-06-2014 02:09PM

Thank you all!

Bog Standard User · 21-06-2014 02:52PM

dazdrog wrote: »

well after the 5th time trying to get my profile changed to a rate adaptive one, a agent at vodafone clearly said hes trying to put me on the highest profile for my cab that was 70/20 so it appears that my cab in drogheda has not had vectoring enabled yet and i will be stuck with 50/15 for the time being

a friend on the next cab up the road from me has eircom and evision, hes on a 40/15 profile and his stats say the attainable is 88mb down and 24mb up with a SNR of 20+ if i remember right, could his be enabled?

yes it can... with 88mb/24mb attainables 70mb/20mb would be max stable profile

possibly even 80mb/20mb might be possible

if they cannot push the speed up because the profilesa are not available get the agent to email eircom wholesale with a manual prequal request to get the line stressed tested and new profiles added based on test results

manual prequal tests usually take 72-96 hours to complete

all cabs are vectoring enabled now

OcocO · 21-06-2014 02:57PM

Bog Standard User wrote: »

yes it can... with 88mb/24mb attainables 70mb/20mb would be max stable profile

possibly even 80mb/20mb might be possible

if they cannot push the speed up because the profilesa are not available get the agent to email eircom wholesale with a manual prequal request to get the line stressed tested and new profiles added based on test results

all cabs are vectoring enabled now

Thanks, I'd missed this reply from dazrog. Very interesting that you say that all cabs are vectoring enabled now - I hope you won't be offended if I enquire as to your sources?

Bog Standard User · 21-06-2014 02:58PM

OcocO wrote: »

Thanks, I'd missed this reply from dazrog. Very interesting that you say that all cabs are vectoring enabled now - I hope you won't be offended if I enquire as to your sources?

the vectoring rollout was completed last month. according to eircom

OcocO · 21-06-2014 03:01PM

Thanks, but could you provide a link to the news or report if you heard it from an Eircom engineer (for example). Good tip re. having the agent email eircom wholesale with a manual prequel request btw.

Bog Standard User · 21-06-2014 03:26PM

OcocO wrote: »

Thanks, but could you provide a link to the news or report if you heard it from an Eircom engineer (for example). Good tip re. having the agent email eircom wholesale with a manual prequel request btw.

vectoring is merely a software update rolled out on all cabs this was deployed starting in march and finished in may. before march there were a few cabs in ballyboden and drogheda that were used as test beds to allow eircom wholesale figure out the best settings to use.

when the cabs are installed they are configured by eircom wholesale with vectoring switched on & tested before any customers are connected to the new cabs.

jca · 21-06-2014 03:52PM

Bog Standard User wrote: »

yes it can... with 88mb/24mb attainables 70mb/20mb would be max stable profile

possibly even 80mb/20mb might be possible

if they cannot push the speed up because the profilesa are not available get the agent to email eircom wholesale with a manual prequal request to get the line stressed tested and new profiles added based on test results

manual prequal tests usually take 72-96 hours to complete

all cabs are vectoring enabled now

Vectoring definitely not enabled on my cab. SNR is unchanged since I got connected last December. My attainable download rate has fallen from 88 to 48, attainable upload has remained largely unchanged.

Bog Standard User · 21-06-2014 04:04PM

jca wrote: »

Vectoring definitely not enabled on my cab. SNR is unchanged since I got connected last December. My attainable download rate has fallen from 88 to 48, attainable upload has remained largely unchanged.

a drop in downstream attainables like that would indicate an earth or short fault on your line rather than a vectoring issue

call into tech support and get them to test your line for earth or short faults... call using a mobile so the line is free for testing

jca · 21-06-2014 04:31PM

Bog Standard User wrote: »

a drop in downstream attainables like that would indicate an earth or short fault on your line rather than a vectoring issue

call into tech support and get them to test your line for earth or short faults... call using a mobile so the line is free for testing

I'll give them a shout on Monday. I hope I don't get a "have you a connection?" Genius. I've tried several times to get them to listen to me but all I get is, "you have a connection what's your problem"? I have never been happy with the line from the day it was installed as a pots. It always was a bit crackly. In fairness since the fibre install voice quality is the best its ever been so I can tentatively say the fault lies beyond the house.

domeld · 21-06-2014 08:46PM

Bog Standard User wrote: »

the vectoring rollout was completed last month. according to eircom

My cabinet is still not enabled for vectoring (cabinet live since december). I tried to find out why without success.
My provider - vodafone (specially 1 level support) does not give a sh1t about this,

jca · 21-06-2014 08:49PM

domeld wrote: »

My cabinet is still not enabled for vectoring (cabinet live since december). I tried to find out why without success.
My provider - vodafone (specially 1 level support) does not give a sh1t about this,

Most of the "support" gurus don't even know what it is.

domeld · 21-06-2014 09:04PM

jca wrote: »

Most of the "support" gurus don't even know what it is.

The point is they don't care about customer as long broadband is working they don't know anything, any question regarding vectoring end up with 'i don't know or eircom does not give us any informations'

jca · 21-06-2014 09:50PM

domeld wrote: »

The point is they don't care about customer as long broadband is working they don't know anything, any question regarding vectoring end up with 'i don't know or eircom does not give us any informations'

No point in changing to eircom because they are just as bad.

Praetorian · 22-06-2014 10:42PM

It's been mentioned several times already. Vectoring is not completely rolled out, as quite a number of cabinets will require system level vectoring. My information is that it will be q3/q4 before these cabinets have vectoring enabled.

sparky63 · 28-06-2014 12:37AM

domeld wrote: »

The point is they don't care about customer as long broadband is working they don't know anything, any question regarding vectoring end up with 'i don't know or eircom does not give us any informations'

Really depends on what questions your asking, regarding vectoring. If your cabinet is enabled for vectoring, your provider will be able to check what profile your line can take. Its only when vectoring is enabled will anyone know what speed each individual line can support. If your looking for when your cabinet will have vectoring enabled, support find out when its enabled. When vectoring is turned on at your cabinet, time frames vary greatly between each site to allow for want of a better word things to settle. This allows providers to establish what profile your line can can sustain. In reality the progress they have made in terms of fibre to the cabinet and vectoring has been phenomenal.

Nonoperational · 28-06-2014 12:47PM

Bog Standard User wrote: »

the vectoring rollout was completed last month. according to eircom

Don't think so. Even people extremely close to my cab are showing as 50Mbit max speed on the line checker.

Praetorian wrote: »

It's been mentioned several times already. Vectoring is not completely rolled out, as quite a number of cabinets will require system level vectoring. My information is that it will be q3/q4 before these cabinets have vectoring enabled.

This makes an awful lot of sense.

ED E · 28-06-2014 01:55PM

Nonoperational wrote: »

Don't think so. Even people extremely close to my cab are showing as 50Mbit max speed on the line checker.

If they're real close they should be seeing 70Mb even before vectoring.

Nonoperational · 29-06-2014 09:57AM

ED E wrote: »

If they're real close they should be seeing 70Mb even before vectoring.

Yep, I don't really understand it.

michaelotoole · 01-07-2014 01:15PM

It would be interesting if people posted the before and after speeds so we could establish an average increase and include an estimate of distance to cabinet...

It should also be noted in built up areas where more than one cabinet is required, there's no guarantee you are connected to the nearest...
My nearest cabinet is 30 meters away... yet I'm connected to a cabinet 175 meters away.... still pretty good but not ideal...

RED L4 0TH · 07-07-2014 02:45AM

In Dundalk. Just wondering has my local cabinet got vectoring enabled? Downstream SNR margin is now 22.8 dB. Up from around 17 before this.

Ping is also now 10ms. Used to be 20+. Currently on the up to 50 meg package. Actual download speed is 48. Do Eircom increase your profile themselves once vectoring is live or do you need to ring them?

Cork981 · 07-07-2014 02:52AM

RED L4 0TH wrote: »

In Dundalk. Just wondering has my local cabinet got vectoring enabled? Downstream SNR margin is now 22.8 dB. Up from around 17 before this.

Ping is also now 10ms. Used to be 20+. Currently on the up to 50 meg package. Actual download speed is 48. Do Eircom increase your profile themselves once vectoring is live or do you need to ring them?

Yup you've vectoring enabled. Give them a ring and they should be able to bump your speed.

barry181091 · 07-07-2014 02:55AM

Is it possible that bandwidth can reduce after vectoring? Used to get around 25+Mbps now its only synced at 20.

ED E · 07-07-2014 08:43AM

barry181091 wrote: »

Is it possible that bandwidth can reduce after vectoring? Used to get around 25+Mbps now its only synced at 20.

There can be teething issues, especially with upstream syncs. Call your provider.

jca · 07-07-2014 11:45PM

My stats have gone to the dogs altogether. It took me a week of phone calls to get Eircom to put me back on an adaptive profile after I cancelled eVision. When I eventually got a decent agent he said the best profile he could put me on was 50/15 I told him that before eVision I was on 50/20. I asked him to check the line for faults as my attainable rates are in steady decline since being connected. He said the line was fine.... Tonight snr is 8.8/8.6 ul/dl, ATT 19.7/16.8. Attainable speed 16.23/44.74. The 44 download is almost exactly half the value I was getting last December. What do I do next guys? At this rate I might as well be on sky's €10 DSL rather than paying Eircom €50 for an ever decreasing service.

Praetorian · 08-07-2014 09:51AM

jca,

If you were the first or one of the first connected to your cabinet you would have seen excellent stats. Then the stats naturally decline as more people get connected as interference / noise increases. Vectoring should cancel out this noise, if it has been turned on, on your cabinet. I believe possibly 33% of cabinets aren't vectored yet. So you may get your speed back when your cabinet is vectored.

50/15 is still a good connection though! My brother had 50/20 and he also lost a few m/bit upload speed recently. He doesn't seem too bothered.

jca · 08-07-2014 10:14AM

Praetorian wrote: »

jca,

If you were the first or one of the first connected to your cabinet you would have seen excellent stats. Then the stats naturally decline as more people get connected as interference / noise increases. Vectoring should cancel out this noise, if it has been turned on, on your cabinet. I believe possibly 33% of cabinets aren't vectored yet. So you may get your speed back when your cabinet is vectored.

50/15 is still a good connection though! My brother had 50/20 and he also lost a few m/bit upload speed recently. He doesn't seem too bothered.

Yea you're right I'm just nitpicking really. I don't think vectoring has been turned on yet. My cabinet is one that had the modular extension put on top before the vdsl cab was landed. It will be interesting to see what happens when vectoring is turned on later this year.

Ah-Watch · 08-07-2014 11:28PM

I cannot see my green cab anywhere but think its in the eircom hut about 500 metres as the crow flies and the line checker says it should take 100meg but you cannot order until the 23rd of July. Any idea why I can get 100meg (hypothetically ) with that distance and my brother can only take 70meg with 50metres from his cab, is this to do with vectoring? Again neither cab is currently active, both have a go live date of the 23rd

ED E · 08-07-2014 11:36PM

Ah-Watch wrote: »

I cannot see my green cab anywhere but think its in the eircom hut about 500 metres as the crow flies and the line checker says it should take 100meg but you cannot order until the 23rd of July. Any idea why I can get 100meg (hypothetically ) with that distance and my brother can only take 70meg with 50metres from his cab, is this to do with vectoring? Again neither cab is currently active, both have a go live date of the 23rd

Eircom hut = Exchange?

Exchange VDSL isnt released yet though. Have you checked the map?
http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

When might Eircom to enable vectoring on their eFibre/VDSL service?

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