Would you take a Knighthood of the queen

Capt'n Midnight · 04-07-2014 10:42PM

Manach wrote: »

Does that knighthood still come with the ability to slay dragons?

I think it's more of a duty than a right.

Madam · 04-07-2014 10:45PM

As an Irishwoman and a Republican how could I?

Capt'n Midnight · 04-07-2014 10:48PM

Thing about a Knighthood is than only UK citizens can call themselves "Sir"

duffalosoldier · 04-07-2014 10:51PM

Sir Brian O Driscoll - he must be up next !

04-07-2014 10:55PM

Sure!
Then I could do this pose

http://stickerish.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/FeelLikeASirWhiteSS.png

An Claidheamh · 04-07-2014 11:18PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

It depends you know. If I had international dealings I wouldn't. If I was just confined to Ireland and the UK I would.

Why would you want a knighthood in Ireland?

Wouldn't it be just, if not more awkward, than internationally?

Hollister11 · 06-07-2014 02:05AM

Interesting that most here would

Cantremember · 06-07-2014 03:00AM

Arise Sir Cantremember. Hmmmmm? Am I a knight or amnt I?

WilyCoyote · 06-07-2014 03:54AM

Seemingly Fagan thought she was hot. A glass of Chardonney, a royal ride and a fag. What more would a chap want

Michael Fagan in wiki:

Break-ins[edit]
At around 7.00am on Friday morning, 9 July 1982, Michael Fagan, who was by then a 33-year-old unemployed decorator whose wife had just left him,[3] scaled Buckingham Palace's 14ft perimeter wall - topped with revolving spikes and barbed wire[2] - and shinned up a drainpipe before wandering into the Queen's bedroom at about 7.15am.[1] By his own account, it was his second attempt: on his first he shinned up the drainpipe, startling a housemaid, who called security. When guards reached the scene, Fagan had disappeared, leading them to believe the housemaid was mistaken. Fagan entered the palace through an unlocked window on the roof and spent the next half hour eating cheddar cheese and crackers and wandering around. He tripped several alarms, but they were faulty. He viewed the royal portraits and rested on the throne for a while. He then entered the postroom, where Diana, Princess of Wales had hidden presents for her first son, William. Fagan drank half a bottle of white wine before becoming tired and leaving.[3]

On Fagan's second attempt, an alarm sensor detected him. A member of the palace staff thought the alarm was faulty and silenced it. En route to see the Queen, Fagan broke a glass ashtray, cutting his hand.[citation needed]

The Queen woke when he disturbed a curtain, and initial reports said Fagan sat on the edge of her bed. But in a 2012 interview, he said that she in fact left the room immediately, seeking security.[3] She phoned twice for police but none came. Fagan then asked for some cigarettes, which were brought by a maid. When the maid did not return to base for some time, footman Paul Whybrew appeared. The incident happened as the armed police officer outside the royal bedroom came off duty before his replacement arrived.[citation needed]

expo97 · 06-07-2014 05:00AM

would I be guaranteed a few acres in Ireland like a lot of them got in past times?

Sunnyisland · 06-07-2014 09:47AM

Nope, wouldn't Interest me.

foxy farmer · 06-07-2014 10:33AM

Lizzy not the best at selecting truly honourable candidates. Saville Harris and our own Tony o Reilly. None in the news at the moment for good reason. Alex Ferguson could be added as well. Bit of a tool when on the pitch. Brings the whole honours system into disrepute.

Ted_YNWA · 06-07-2014 10:35AM

People already refer to me as Sir

"Sir, can you please stop doing that"

"Sir, I am going to have to ask you to leave."

House of Blaze · 06-07-2014 10:37AM

Would I take a knighthood?

Depends... is it waterproof?

newmug · 06-07-2014 10:43AM

Nemeses wrote: »

If you're from Merseyside :P

??? Wheres Merseyside? Never heard of it! ???

floggg · 06-07-2014 10:53AM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

So would you refuse any reward of honor from any head of state or just the British?

Many countries have awards or medals which recognise achievements or contributions to the state, but which don't seek to confer any title of nobility or privilege.

I have no issue with those, I do have an issue though with archaic systems which confer feudal titles of nobility, peerage and privileges, handed out by hereditary monarchy.

I don't believe in kings, queen, lords, dames or any of the rest of that crap. if people are happy to believe that somebody is better than you just because of the parents they were born to, then more fool them.

floggg · 06-07-2014 10:56AM

sdeire wrote: »

The idea of a method of rewarding civilians for acts of particular public good isn't inequal though. The US awards medals to civilians and so on.

It's only a knighthood because she's still the head of state, and it as a result makes you a knight of the Order of the British Empire.

Wouldn't accept it myself on point of principle (I would have an objection to swearing allegiance to the UK) but people like Bono have accepted them and not used the title.

There are still knighthoods which confer peerage rights (right to sit in the House of Lords) which is an offensive archaic system. But the very fact that its a title of nobility conferred by a hereditary monarch is wrong. that very institution offends my republican (in the democratic, not NI, sense) sensibilities.

And lastly, the idea of having anything today with the brittish empire would make me queasy. that colonial machine raped and plundered far too many countries around the world. i want nothing to do with it.

whupdedo · 06-07-2014 10:58AM

I'd take it, and I'd ask herself and Cameron to come on over and try and fix up this ****e hole after the last shower of ghouls, its never been the same since they left devalera in charge

floggg · 06-07-2014 11:00AM

tedobrien98 wrote: »

That's just being unnecessarily pedantic.
You clearly understood who the OP was referring to. She's not our queen, she has no control over us or anything to do with us, but she is geographically the closest queen to us and the one we are most familiar with. If I refer to THE moon, you think of that thing we see in the sky at night time, you're not scanning through all the various moons of Jupiter, Saturn and Mars in your head.

No, its not. there are plenty of queens.

irish people using "the" queen to describe her suggests she holds some special position of importance for us. she doesn't.

An Claidheamh · 14-07-2014 02:47PM

whupdedo wrote: »

I'd take it, and I'd ask herself and Cameron to come on over and try and fix up this ****e hole after the last shower of ghouls, its never been the same since they left devalera in charge

I always find it funny when people say that and then cringe at the thought of living in NI.

(They "left" Cumann na nGaedheal in charge, de Valera elected 10 years later

)

An Claidheamh · 14-07-2014 02:50PM

Of course, Irish people who accept titles can end up looking like tools.

This is hilarious!

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/harry-crosbie-nama-told-me-to-turn-down-obe-from-queen-30279027.html

WilyCoyote · 14-07-2014 03:07PM

newmug wrote: »

??? Wheres Merseyside? Never heard of it! ???

Never heard of Tranmere Rovers then?

stevedublin · 14-07-2014 03:29PM

floggg wrote: »

I believe monarchy and titles of nobility are offensive to the idea of a monarchy.

Agent Smith · 14-07-2014 03:37PM

King me.

corner of hells · 14-07-2014 03:43PM

No ,cause Im a member of Scottish clan , with tartans , a Clan Chief and hes my boss.

Iwasfrozen · 14-07-2014 04:08PM

floggg wrote: »

Many countries have awards or medals which recognise achievements or contributions to the state, but which don't seek to confer any title of nobility or privilege.

I have no issue with those, I do have an issue though with archaic systems which confer feudal titles of nobility, peerage and privileges, handed out by hereditary monarchy.

I don't believe in kings, queen, lords, dames or any of the rest of that crap. if people are happy to believe that somebody is better than you just because of the parents they were born to, then more fool them.

Ok that's your opinion but we're not talking about hereditary titles here, we're talking about earned titles. Why would you turn that down?

An Claidheamh wrote: »

I always find it funny when people say that and then cringe at the thought of living in NI.

In fairness NI has a whole host of ethnic and cultural problems the rest of Ireland never had. Like comparing chalk and cheese.

Nodin · 14-07-2014 04:11PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Ok that's your opinion but we're not talking about hereditary titles, we're talking about earned titles. Why would you turn that down?

"earned"? You realise there isn't some transparent process for these awards? Don't remember the rather high ratio of Labour donors to nominees that sparked a police investigation?

I Heart Internet · 14-07-2014 04:13PM

floggg wrote: »

No, its not. there are plenty of queens.

irish people using "the" queen to describe her suggests she holds some special position of importance for us. she doesn't.

It's just a question of proximity and cultutal history.

The British Queen DOES hold some special position of importance to Irish people, simply due to the fact that she is the closest queen to us and speaks the same language as us.

jimgoose · 14-07-2014 04:14PM

She's going to have to do a whole truck-load better than some medal and buckshee title. I'll be requiring a proper, old-school peer-of-the-realm setup, with vast estates and armies and plenty of serfs to abuse, and what-have-you. Salary commensurate with experience, wha'?? :pac::pac::pac:

Dyr · 14-07-2014 04:15PM

Take it and then punch her into the jaw bai

Would you take a Knighthood of the queen

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