people from Australia.

Amprodude · 06-07-2014 04:14AM #1

I visited Australia for 3 months and i dont know if its me or what but i didnt like the native people there. They are arrogant and cocky and many of them will say it to your face that Irish people are w$nkers and hate Irish people etc. Havent experienced this anywhere else not even in England. Many of the people i met out here were English and German and i actually didnt meet any bad one. The Aussies and im not generalizing a nation are mostly from what i met rude people.

Does anyone agree?

The Backwards Man · 06-07-2014 04:16AM

Dunno.

I've never met an aborigine.

Amprodude · 06-07-2014 04:18AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Dunno.

I've never met an aborigine.

Aussie born people i mean.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 06-07-2014 04:24AM

They never really formed a proper class system, remember the episode of Only Fools, "They'll love you out there Del, they're just like you, no class"

Even families two or three generations deep in wealth out there at the moment would still be viewed as philistines in western Europe. You can't buy class as the saying goes.

Very nice people for the most part though, I spent 5 weeks in Perth in 2010. Some Irish in recent years have blackened our rep for sure but they don't as a rule hate paddies.

AlanS181824 · 06-07-2014 04:29AM

I find most Australians to be totally grand to deal with.

But like everywhere you do get the odd cúnt!

PeteEd · 06-07-2014 04:30AM

Aye they are a pretty arrogant race, but when you meet anyone from Cork they don't seem so bad after all

Lucifer MorningStar · 06-07-2014 04:30AM

Alf Stewart seems okay

PeteEd · 06-07-2014 04:32AM

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

Alf Stewart seems okay

He is a Flaming Galah

Sir Arthur Daley · 06-07-2014 04:34AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Dunno.

I've never met an aborigine.

How could you when the bog consumes so much time.

Lucifer MorningStar · 06-07-2014 04:36AM

PeteEd wrote: »

He is a Flaming Galah

Struth, stone the flamin crows!

Canis Lupus · 06-07-2014 04:38AM

Amprodude wrote: »

Aussie born people i mean.

Are aboriginal people not born in Australia?

Zambia · 06-07-2014 04:43AM

Amprodude wrote: »

I visited Australia for 3 months and i dont know if its me or what but i didnt like the native people there. They are arrogant and cocky and many of them will say it to your face that Irish people are w$nkers and hate Irish people etc. Havent experienced this anywhere else not even in England. Many of the people i met out here were English and German and i actually didnt meet any bad one. The Aussies and im not generalizing a nation are mostly from what i met rude people.

Does anyone agree?

This is utter cow pat!

Where were you that this went on? There are 24 million people in Australia I doubt you met enough to form a true test.

PeteEd · 06-07-2014 04:52AM

Zambia wrote: »

This is utter cow pat!

I think the technical term is "drongo" talk

stefan idiot jones · 06-07-2014 05:04AM

I've been here for a year and a half, we both work for Australian employers, live in a good (predominantly white Australian) neighbourhood, Daughter goes to a mainly white Australian private school and I have yet to meet a twat.

OH is Irish and yet to have the piss taken out of her alcoholism or bloodline.

Every parent that we have met has been really pleasant but that's maybe because we don't live in Bogansville where I'm sure the pond life have a negative opinion on everyone no less than this great country.

You've probably just mixed with the tiny percentage of twats that are not exclusive to Australia.

Did they wear shoes? Thats a tell tale sign often.

Lucifer MorningStar · 06-07-2014 05:07AM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I've been here for a year and a half, we both work for Australian employers, live in a good (predominantly white Australian) neighbourhood, Daughter goes to a mainly white Australian private school and I have yet to meet a twat.

OH is Irish and yet to have the piss taken out of her alcoholism or bloodline.

Every parent that we have met has been really pleasant but that's maybe because we don't live in Bogansville where I'm sure the pond life have a negative opinion on everyone no less than this great country.

You've probably just mixed with the tiny percentage of twats that are not exclusive to Australia.

Did they wear shoes? Thats a tell tale sign often.

You really love the word white

stefan idiot jones · 06-07-2014 05:12AM

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

You really love the word white

Just pointing out that the colour of the OPs tormentors skin is not what I have experienced.

I work with Asian and Africans and once again I have yet to meet anyone like the OP. Sorry.

Mad4simmental · 06-07-2014 05:38AM

Amprodude wrote: »

I visited Australia for 3 months and i dont know if its me or what but i didnt like the native people there. They are arrogant and cocky and many of them will say it to your face that Irish people are w$nkers and hate Irish people etc. Havent experienced this anywhere else not even in England. Many of the people i met out here were English and German and i actually didnt meet any bad one. The Aussies and im not generalizing a nation are mostly from what i met rude people.

Does anyone agree?

Allot of very very good ones. You get the %1 of d!ckheads the same as here. To be honist I would say the % of fcukheads over here is allot higher.

Day Lewin · 06-07-2014 06:52AM

Have visited Australia a number of times, travelled there, spent time in various towns etc.

Human nature is much the same everywhere, I have found: most people are pleasant enough, why wouldn't they be? Friendly and cheerful, for the most part. And noticeably quite efficient, we always found.

The one cultural comment that I do notice is that there is a clear strand of racism: Many Australians will say sneery things about the Aboriginal people, and about Asian immigrants, etc. And they don't seem to regard this POV as unacceptable-in-polite-society, (which most Europeans do.)

It's the one fly in the ointment, really: considering the "Anglo-Saxons" were once immigrants themselves!

Toots · 06-07-2014 07:28AM

I suppose like any country you'll get some arseholes mixed in with all the rest. Most of the people I met in Australia were lovely, however I also noticed a LOT of racism while I was there. For a country that's such a melting pot of cultures I found it odd that racism was so prevalent. Most of it seemed to be directed to the "Abbos" or the Chinese, although the Greeks got a good bit too, in my experience.

The 'white' aussies were the worst for it. One of the offices I worked had mainly aussies working there, and then a few of us foreigners and a lot of the time in the canteen at lunch one of the aussies would just make some horribly racist remark in the middle of a conversation. It was obviously completely the norm because nobody else batted an eyelid. My desk was beside one of the other Irish girls and after lunch the first day we were both like 'did that just happen?'. After a while we got used to it.

I think of all the places I went, Sydney definitely had a noticeably higher ratio of ****:normal people.

Ranjo · 06-07-2014 07:29AM

Amprodude wrote: »

.. many of them will say it to your face that Irish people are w$nkers and hate Irish people etc.

In other words, you hate all Australians because Australians all hate Irish.
Only they say it to your face, and you start a thread.

Amprodude wrote: »

Does anyone agree?

I have a feeling they just meant you. So, no.

colman1212 · 06-07-2014 07:33AM

I live in brisbane and ozzies love irish people from what i've seen. Anytime on a night when a group hear you're irish they think its awesome and start calling all their friends over! Been here for over 3 years and i can't recall a single negative incident because i'm irish..

baldshin · 06-07-2014 07:35AM

Having lived and worked in Sydney for about 3 months now, I've met very very few genuinely nice Australians. For the most part I find them incredibly brash, rude and arrogant, and they are always on the edge of flipping out entirely for no reason. From my experience they are not very much fun either, which is why I reckon most Irish here are more friendly with every nationality other than Australian!

Daveysil15 · 06-07-2014 08:32AM

I reckon its about 50/50. They're certainly not as friendly or as attractive as Home & Away would suggest. Fair City on the other hand would give you a fair idea of what the Irish are like. Plenty of unfriendly fcukers in that.

The Aussie · 06-07-2014 08:43AM

Amprodude wrote: »

I visited Australia for 3 months and i dont know if its me or what but i didnt like the native people there. They are arrogant and cocky and many of them will say it to your face that Irish people are w$nkers and hate Irish people etc.

No, I'm fairly sure it's just you...

It's called calling it how it is there brother, they were not talking about the Irish, just the person in front of them.

drumswan · 06-07-2014 08:48AM

Not just you OP, I had the misfortune to live there for a year and experience Australian 'culture' too.

Try NZ next time you are over, a great people.

SEPT 23 1989 · 06-07-2014 08:55AM

New Zealanders are a much more likeable people

on_my_oe · 06-07-2014 08:59AM

Two years ago I went for a job interview with a senior director in a big very well known multi national technology firm. During the initial chit chat she mentioned her three kids were all off working abroad, then during the actual interview (when she had been joined by one other executive), she asked why I was in the country and interviewing for a job that a local would easily be able to do. At first I thought I misunderstood but she said that with a high local unemployment rate, I shouldn't be here. This was in Ireland, and it wasn't the first time I had encountered it although it was the first time in an interview*. Fortunately 99% of Irish are lovely, even if I'm a little cautious of meeting new Irish now.
Basically there are xenophobic idiots everywhere, but thankfully they are the minority. Australia's unemployment rate - especially among the male blue collar worker - is going up, so some are 'stirring the pot', and with Irish being more visible in Oz coupled with the odd bad news story, it's no wonder you're occasionally coming across an idiot. There is an attitude towards NZers in Oz that they are all dole bludgers, but Kiwis can't actually claim the dole. Never let a few facts cloud a good news story now...
Australians are repeatedly told that they're the 'lucky country' and Australia really is a great place, but hearing the message over and over growing up, it's no surprise they have a certain confidence about them. Maybe it stems from the original settlers wanting to dust off the reputation of 'dirty crims' and replace it 200 years later with something more positive. Either way, as a Kiwi I like Australians as much as I like Irish.

PS NZers are not perfect either. There are plenty of idiots there too.

* I did point out that my Dad employs nearly 30 Irish in NZ, just to provide a bit of balance

salmocab · 06-07-2014 09:00AM

Most of the Aussies I met were nice guys worked with a lot and they were all sound, the odd asshole but sure they are everywhere.

Wibbs · 06-07-2014 09:30AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You can't buy class as the saying goes.

THat's precisely how you achieve "class". Money over time.

Toots* wrote: »

Most of the people I met in Australia were lovely, however I also noticed a LOT of racism while I was there. For a country that's such a melting pot of cultures I found it odd that racism was so prevalent.

The Australian melting pot is only a relatively recent thing. Pre the 1970's non white was rare enough to see(my dad lived there in the 1950's). There were whites only immigration rules in place, the White Australia policy, that was only fully dismantled in the early 1970's. Some of that grassroots "we don't want wogs here" is still about. That's before we get to the policies the native Australians suffered under and are still suffering the after effects from. Real South African apartheid guff. Add in a sideorder of the cultural ideal of a true blue Aussie plainly speaks his own mind and PC references to race can go out the window.

New Zealand had a similar "white Europeans only" policy in place and it lasted until the dying days of the 20th century. It was even more restrictive in that it focused down to "British" or of "British heritage". It was more a nudge nudge type set of rules, less overt. An applicant was seen as "suitable" or "not suitable". My dad lived there too. He loved the place. Fave place out of all the places he had lived before he got hitched. He had no trouble getting in because he was born pre 1922 so was likely considered "British enough".

colman1212 wrote: »

I live in brisbane and ozzies love irish people from what i've seen.

It can sometimes depend on the type of "Irish" you are, or are seen to be(not just in Australia either). If you don't follow the beer soaked, red faced, GAA jersey wearing galoot stereotype then you're not really Irish as it were and are much more acceptable and accepted. Even among xenophobes. If anything because of the shock of this non compliance to stereotype in the narrow of mind you may be accepted more than background level.

Calibos · 06-07-2014 09:34AM

Perhaps Australians think of the Aboriginals like we think of Irish Travellers and that's why it's more acceptable to them to make those kind of comments in seemingly polite conversation. Both are renown for the same type of carry on.

My uncle worked with some aboriginals in WA, had family picnics etc etc and said that they looked down on those aboriginals carrying on like travellers as much as the white Aussies did.

Duck's hoop · 06-07-2014 11:00AM

A few friends of mine have headed out there over past few years. They all remarked on a very tangible anti-Irish sentiment in all facets of day to day living.

This is in Melbourne. And from what they saw of a lot of Irish over there they weren't surprised about the backlash.

The stereotype of GAA jersey wearing, pissed up, rowdy rednecks living in a hostel for months before heading back home to get back under their rocks after 'travelling', is for real.

Irish have done themselves no favours out there. With their 'Shur we're Irish aren't we just great craic altogether' BS.

2 are from NI and took to emphasising the 'northern' Irish when job hunting, interacting socially or looking for accommodation.

people from Australia.

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