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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Do you live on Blackhorse Avenue? I just loved the discarded beer cans, bottles and other rubbish as well as people pissing against the park wall during those gigs.

    This is Garth Brooks - Not Swedish House Mafia.

    Garth Brooks and One Direction - Absolute magnets for gurriers and lowlifes. My God I'd say that the residents fear for their lives with all those mothers, children and middle aged golfers.

    FFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    "Lockdown"

    Seriously?

    We're not talking about Nazi Germany. What about the upsides? Free tickets and the ability to have BBQs and drinks for family and friends attending the concerts...

    Utter gombeenery - The fingerprints of Sinn Fein / IRA and angry working class gasbaggers are all over this debacle.

    Actually Sinn Fein are on the side of the concerts so you're wrong there.
    The gombeenery would exist if the laws of the land were discarded for the sake of cashing in.
    Very few residents get free tickets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Do you live on Blackhorse Avenue? I just loved the discarded beer cans, bottles and other rubbish as well as people pissing against the park wall during those gigs.

    I should have added the unavailability of a large portion of the park to anyone for months afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    This is Garth Brooks - Not Swedish House Mafia.

    Garth Brooks and One Direction - Absolute magnets for gurriers and lowlifes. My God I'd say that the residents fear for their lives with all those mothers, children and middle aged golfers.

    FFS.
    Now you're saying they fear violence?
    Being disrupted had nothing to do with the threat of violence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ekimiam


    "Lockdown"

    Seriously?

    We're not talking about Nazi Germany. What about the upsides? Free tickets and the ability to have BBQs and drinks for family and friends attending the concerts...

    Utter gombeenery - The fingerprints of Sinn Fein / IRA and angry working class gasbaggers are all over this debacle.

    lockdown is the week before and the week after when theres 100's of lorrys arriving and unloading. you seem a bit clueless mate, so the shin fein dig is a load of horse.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Then move, Dublin has been a quiet sleepy city for a long time. I understand people don't like change. But people will just have to accept the fact that Dublin is becoming more and more like other European Cities. More people able to travel in and out easily, More tourist, More people wanting to avail of entertainment and services. All these laws will have to change to reflect Dublin becoming a more vibrant and cosmopolitan city. It’s not the 1960s anymore People need to accept more and more disruption. It’s never going back to the way it was.

    Stop talking sense. People don't want to hear that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Do you live on Blackhorse Avenue? I just loved the discarded beer cans, bottles and other rubbish as well as people pissing against the park wall during those gigs.

    Yep and not only that I had to go through the park for work every day at peak 'foot traffic' times.

    These things happen but the following year things were miles better and why? Yeah because all the RAs ENGAGED with MCD to ensure what was wanted in terms of stewards and fencing and portaloos were in place.

    Amazing what a bit of talking and common sense can do, the townies just took the typical approach of shout it down, I mean can you imagine how many groups around phoenix park area would benefit from 500k . They haven't the intelligence to realise these things.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Do you live on Blackhorse Avenue? I just loved the discarded beer cans, bottles and other rubbish as well as people pissing against the park wall during those gigs.

    Perhaps if you went out and tidied up after people instead of relying on the Corpo the place would look better. Or do you prefer to be twitching your cutains and saying "I'm going to ring Joe"i


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There's a delcious irony about Sinn Fein fighting against local residents to force something like this down their throats just as the 12th July approaches. Croke Park must be Garth Brooks' traditional marching route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    miju wrote: »
    Yep and not only that I had to go through the park for work every day at peak 'foot traffic' times.

    These things happen but the following year things were miles better and why? Yeah because all the RAs ENGAGED with MCD to ensure what was wanted in terms of stewards and fencing and portaloos were in place.

    Amazing what a bit of talking and common sense can do

    That's the thing though, it appears Aiken done none of that, and the disruption was so minimal you could go through the park, like I could drive down Blackhorse Avenue, the days of the gig, not comparable to around Croke Park.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Perhaps if you went out and tidied up after people instead of relying on the Corpo the place would look better. Or do you prefer to be twitching your cutains and saying "I'm going to ring Joe"i

    Council do great job on Blackhorse ave keeping it clean and redoing roads nd footpaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Not at all it's simply facts. Dublin's quiet days are over you can't stop the city from developing. More and more people using the facilities is a natural progression.

    Then the facilities should be able to deal with more and more people using them. An 80,000 seat stadium that doesn't even have a decent car park or public transport drip off. Joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Perhaps if you went out and tidied up after people instead of relying on the Corpo the place would look better. Or do you prefer to be twitching your cutains and saying "I'm going to ring Joe"i

    Or ideally, crazy idea here I know, people don't litter ?

    What kind of bizzaro world do you live in that allows you to shift that blame on to me?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    That's the thing though, it appears Aiken done none of that, and the disruption was so minimal you could go through the park, like I could drive down Blackhorse Avenue, the days of the gig, not comparable to around Croke Park.

    In fairness they did try and that's were the legacy fund idea came from with the LRC , the RAs just chose to not make a decision until after DCC had made theirs.

    They obviously had no interest in an agreement just maximum hassle and their five minutes of fame grandstanding on TV


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    miju wrote: »
    They obviously had no interest in an agreement just maximum hassle and their five minutes of fame grandstanding on TV

    Eh, it may have been noted here once or twice, there was an agreement in place already. So you mean another agreement completely ignoring the first agreement?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Then the facilities should be able to deal with more and more people using them. An 80,000 seat stadium that doesn't even have a decent car park or public transport drip off. Joke.

    I would imagine getting planning permission would be very difficult for any of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    Jester252 wrote: »
    And the residents for threatening to apply for a high court injunction to block the other three nights.

    More power to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I would imagine getting planning permission would be very difficult for any of that.

    They should have thought about that before redeveloping a stadium in a residential estate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    They should have thought about that before redeveloping a stadium in a residential estate.

    People should have thought about disruption etc before they decided to live beside an 80,000 seater stadium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    They should have thought about that before redeveloping a stadium in a residential estate.
    People should have thought about disruption etc before they decided to live beside an 80,000 seater stadium.

    And we enter the infinite loop...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    People should have thought about disruption etc before they decided to live beside an 80,000 seater stadium.

    They did, and they put up with it, until it became 2 weeks of disruption, then they said maybe your taking the piss, and DCC agreed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The GAA should have known that there would be problems with residents over excessive disruption caused by concerts when they built a stadium in a residential area, then, shouldn't they?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Eh, it may have been noted here once or twice, there was an agreement in place already. So you mean another agreement completely ignoring the first agreement?

    Yes, believe it or not it happens when things change. Easiest and somewhat relevant I can think of was the Croke Park agreement becoming the Haddington Road agreement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I think the truth is coming out now about these "residents" It's clear that many down in Ballybough, Drumcondra etc. are in favour of the concerts and many were looking forward to making some income from it.

    You say "residents" with quotation marks like their homes are fake?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I think the truth is coming out now about these "residents" It's clear that many down in Ballybough, Drumcondra etc. are in favour of the concerts and many were looking forward to making some income from it.

    There's three concerts happening, so they still can. Five should never have been planned. If they are mad about losing income for the other two nights, well they need to direct that anger towards Aiken/CP for getting their hopes up on that score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    miju wrote: »
    Yes, believe it or not it happens when things change. Easiest and somewhat relevant I can think of was the Croke Park agreement becoming the Haddington Road agreement

    So... a second agreement that can simply be ignored if a big enough deal comes in...? :confused:

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    Overheal wrote: »
    You say "residents" with quotation marks like their homes are fake?


    I saw someone on a news site actually blaming
    the so-called "residents"

    Yes, the nose-out-of-joint Garth Brooks fans don't believe in Croke Park residents, even when they're blaming them for the failings of the GAA and Aiken promotions.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Roll on Tuesday.

    What happens on Tuesday, Fred?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    I saw someone on a news site actually blaming


    Yes, the nose-out-of-joint Garth Brooks fans don't believe in Croke Park residents, even when they're blaming them for the failings of the GAA and Aiken promotions.

    Some of the most vocal "residents" don't live next nor near croke park. Some of them just have an axe to grind with the GAA for whatever reason, nothing else.


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