Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

ABajaninCork · 05-07-2014 12:30AM

I find this all hilarious! WTF did the promoters think they were doing selling tickets for concerts which (apparently) had no permits? I've never heard of this happening before. The incompetence shown has been staggering...

The lawsuits will be flying in now. I hope the promoters either had great insurance or very deep pockets to pay the legals bills! I'm sorry for the fans, and I'm sorry for the residents. Obviously, they have been pushed around once too often. A lot of major artists may very well look at this and think twice about coming over if this is the crap they can expect.

Serves them right...

Titzon Toast · 05-07-2014 12:31AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

It's not a case of battles won or lost end of the road.
You can continue to desperately try spin it and ignore all that's been told and asked of you. You can repeat the same mantra in different ways, but the biggest losers are the Garth Brooks fans that bought tickets for the two gigs that didn't get permission (for obviously good reasons). The blame for the fans disappointment lies with the promoters and the GAA. They made a balls of it.

Your attempts at piggy backing their disappointment to rabble-crowd against the residents is admirable, amateur and obviously annoying everyone from both camps (which is your aim), so on that front, you're a seasoned troll and good at trolling, but that's all you are. A good, careful troll that has no interest in any of the issues.

Most of you posts on boards.ie are similar. Trouble making, but sailing close to the wind, never enough to get an infraction, but antagonistic enough to stir it up. That carry on obviously gives you a thrill.

End of. (the road)

I couldn't have said it better myself, so I'm glad you did.

Kensington · 05-07-2014 12:45AM

Moses101 wrote: »

Its not as if the world is ending,compromise is what its all about.sorry for the residents,the fans,even the gaa,however the idea that dcc could not bring all parties together to hammer out a solution for now and evermore is not good enough.just saying no and thats that is typical of small minded government.if they can solve the problems up north,surely a local gov.issue should be small beer to de politicians?

Compromise? Frankly, the GAA and Aiken Promotions should be lucky they got licenses for any full stop. While not written in legislation, there appears to be some sort of agreement made between the GAA and residents of no more than 3 concerts per year.

This was broken by the GAA.

Aiken Promotions began selling tickets for dates they hadn't even made license applications for, never mind received, licenses to run the concerts.

Aiken were questionable as to the legality of what they did here.

Both the GAA and Aiken then acted in pure arrogance and greed, ignoring the issue and withholding their full license applications until the very last minute in the hope DCC would buckle under pressure and issue the licenses.
When DCC didn't buckle like they thought or hoped, they began making wild threats in an attempt to turn others against DCC if they didn't then reverse their decision to deny all 5 licenses.

GAA and Aiken chanced their arm and are now the first public case of someone being called up and held to account on their chancing.

I don't see either why the government need get involved. Too often they've gotten involved for "the greater good" of the country, but the fruits of their efforts appear each and every month on yours, mine and every working citizen of this country's payslip - and not on the good side of the payslip either!

end of the road · 05-07-2014 12:52AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

It's not a case of battles won or lost end of the road.
You can continue to desperately try spin it and ignore all that's been told and asked of you. You can repeat the same mantra in different ways, but the biggest losers are the Garth Brooks fans that bought tickets for the two gigs that didn't get permission (for obviously good reasons). The blame for the fans disappointment lies with the promoters and the GAA. They made a balls of it.

Your attempts at piggy backing their disappointment to rabble-crowd against the residents is admirable, amateur and obviously annoying everyone from both camps (which is your aim), so on that front, you're a seasoned troll and good at trolling, but that's all you are. A good, careful troll that has no interest in any of the issues.

Most of you posts on boards.ie are similar. Trouble making, but sailing close to the wind, never enough to get an infraction, but antagonistic enough to stir it up. That carry on obviously gives you a thrill.

End of. (the road)

i'm not a troll, but if thinking i am makes you happy, then fine, but your wrong

John_Rambo · 05-07-2014 12:55AM

end of the road wrote: »

i'm not a troll, but if thinking i am makes you happy fine, but your wrong

You are. But if you think I'm wrong, you're wrong. If that makes you happy, fine.

donegal__road · 05-07-2014 01:36AM

what about the mass grave of 800 children in the septic tank in Galway? There was less public outcry over that, than there is about this over rated **********

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Titzon Toast · 05-07-2014 01:39AM

If you gathered up a load of her posts and looked at them I'd bet that you'd find that at least 70% of them are the exact same.
"No they didn't"
"You're wrong"
"They got what they deserved"
Etc, etc.
Rarely anything positive or complimentary, strange that.

fta93 · 05-07-2014 01:46AM

fta93 wrote: »

Once again, I'd like you to prove that the residents are looking for a pay out. Simple request. I've asked you twice now.

Still waiting for End of The Road to prove that the residents are money grabbers looking for payments.

Or could their argument just be based on crazy batsh*t lies? Well I never..

amkin25 · 05-07-2014 02:04AM

I can see the residents side of it and i imagine people that payed for the tickets feel let down big time,but the promoters and GAA are most responsible for this fiasco.

As much as i would like everyone to come out of this happy somehow,if they overturn the ruling and do 5 concerts on the back of a threat from an american country artist i think its the final proof that we are a failed state where our laws are being superseeded by threats from a singer.

Titzon Toast · 05-07-2014 02:13AM

fta93 wrote: »

Still waiting for End of The Road to prove that the residents are money grabbers looking for payments.

Or could their argument just be based on crazy batsh*t lies? Well I never..

You'll be left waiting I'm afraid. The amount of ill informed posts I've seen here is amazing. I have worked in and around the Croke park area for over two years now and I have actually met and spoken to about 80% of the residents that live there.
They're very nice people and don't deserve the abuse thrown at them on here. You should see some of the roads around Croker on rubbish days, that alone can cause bedlam in the tight streets down there, never mind 80,000 people a night squeezing through.
Of course they accept that they live beside a huge stadium, and they don't mind the match days from what I've been told, GAA fans are a good bunch after all.

rossie1977 · 05-07-2014 02:18AM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I find this all hilarious! WTF did the promoters think they were doing selling tickets for concerts which (apparently) had no permits? I've never heard of this happening before. The incompetence shown has been staggering...

so basically you have never heard or seen an ad on tv/radio for a concert, nearly all of which end with "subject to licence"

tickets for a series of gigs in marlay park 2 years ago e.g went on sale in march 2012 and the licence wasn't granted till 2 months later

this is actually the first time i remember a licence not being granted for a big event.

Jamsiek · 05-07-2014 02:19AM

Titzon Toast wrote: »

If you gathered up a load of her posts and looked at them I'd bet that you'd find that at least 70% of them are the exact same.
"No they didn't"
"You're wrong"
"They got what they deserved"
Etc, etc.
Rarely anything positive or complimentary, strange that.

Who?

Titzon Toast · 05-07-2014 02:27AM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Who?

Sorry, I hit post instead of reply. I'm very twisted here!
I meant to reply to Rambo's post about EOTR.

end of the road · 05-07-2014 02:34AM

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Sorry, I hit post instead of reply. I'm very twisted here!
I meant to reply to Rambo's post about EOTR.

obviously not, as you were referring to a "her"

Titzon Toast · 05-07-2014 02:40AM

end of the road wrote: »

obviously not, as you were referring to a "her"

What???
I genuinely thought you where female for some reason.
Are you sure?

ABajaninCork · 05-07-2014 02:43AM

rossie1977 wrote: »

so basically you have never heard or seen an ad on tv/radio for a concert, nearly all of which end with "subject to licence"

tickets for a series of gigs in marlay park 2 years ago e.g went on sale in march 2012 and the licence wasn't granted till 2 months later

this is actually the first time i remember a licence not being granted for a big event.

No. Read my post...

Gannicus · 05-07-2014 03:03AM

Titzon Toast wrote: »

If you gathered up a load of her posts and looked at them I'd bet that you'd find that at least 70% of them are the exact same.
"No they didn't"
"You're wrong"
"They got what they deserved"
Etc, etc.
Rarely anything positive or complimentary, strange that.

fta93 wrote: »

Still waiting for End of The Road to prove that the residents are money grabbers looking for payments.

Or could their argument just be based on crazy batsh*t lies? Well I never..

end of the road wrote: »

obviously not, as you were referring to a "her"

Titzon Toast wrote: »

What???
I genuinely thought you where female for some reason.
Are you sure?

Titzon Toast - I doubt you're gonna get that answer. End Of The Road just seems to be posting random claptrap and is most likely not even following the conversatoin properly. He/She jut seems to be throwing out the same trolling posts over and over just to get their two cents in

Jester252 · 05-07-2014 04:33AM

Residents,Brooks and his fans are all begins to look like d1cks now.

Jamsiek · 05-07-2014 04:55AM

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Sorry, I hit post instead of reply. I'm very twisted here!
I meant to reply to Rambo's post about EOTR.

That's okay, I was curious

Overheal · 05-07-2014 05:54AM

donegal__road wrote: »

what about the mass grave of 800 children in the septic tank in Galway? There was less public outcry over that, than there is about this over rated barrel of ****

You know what's sad about that?

As an American, I heard a lot of media attention about Galway this summer. And absolutely nothing about Garth Brooks.

If there is a bigger media circus about the concerts than the graves, then something is morally wrong there.

Podge83 · 05-07-2014 07:45AM

Titzon Toast wrote: »

GAA fans are a good bunch after all.

Especially when compared to gangs of drunken women up from the country wearing pink stetsons, hay making jeans and waistcoats...............

and struggling to get to the gates before they need "facilities"

At least the flowers will grow well

Einhard · 05-07-2014 08:15AM

I really can't believe the selfishness of those who think that their right to a good time completely overrides the right of others to live in peace and quiet. I've been to Croke Park for matches and one concert and with the people thronging the area it's obvious that there's significant disruption to the local community. And now they're being pilloried for objecting to 400 000 people flooding their area over 5 days? Ridiculous. I mean, who the hell would want 10% of the population thronging through their neighbourhood in a few days? Definitely not the people who demand that the residents put up with it to satisfy their needs. It's completely unreasonable to expect a community to accomodate the desires of others when it causes so much disruption to others, and those who demand it of others need to stop acting like selfish gits, and ask themselves would they want hundreds of thousands of people flowing past their front gardens? I bet the answer would be a definitive NO!

Podge83 · 05-07-2014 08:25AM

Jester252 wrote: »

Residents,Brooks and his fans are all begins to look like d1cks now.

The residents are only being made to look like d1cks by blinkered Country fans who refuse to accept that they bought tickets "subject to licence"

Handy that....., they have plenty of blinkers lying around the sheds and barns.

The d1cks are the promoters and the singer

Ash.J.Williams · 05-07-2014 08:40AM

Podge83 wrote: »

The residents are only being made to look like d1cks by blinkered Country fans who refuse to accept that they bought tickets "subject to licence"

Handy that....., they have plenty of blinkers lying around the sheds and barns.

The d1cks are the promoters and the singer

All gigs major are subject to license

Reformed Character · 05-07-2014 09:02AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

All gigs major are subject to license

But in this case the licence hadn't even been applied for when the tickets were sold.

HeidiHeidi · 05-07-2014 09:14AM

Reformed Character wrote: »

But in this case the licence hadn't even been applied for when the tickets were sold.

I think is the way most big gigs are organised. Complete cart-before-horse stuff, but no promoter/gig had ever got caught out before by having a licence refused. There seemed to be not unreasonable assumption (going on previous evidence) that the licences were simply a formality, but clearly they're not (any more).

Someone needs to figure out a way to rejig the order in which these things happen.

Phoebas · 05-07-2014 09:32AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Someone needs to figure out a way to rejig the order in which these things happen.

Not someone. The gig promoters should learn a lesson from this and get their permissions in order before they sell tickets.

HeidiHeidi · 05-07-2014 09:46AM

Phoebas wrote: »

Not someone. The gig promoters should learn a lesson from this and get their permissions in order before they sell tickets.

True.

I'm sure back in my gigging days the tickets weren't being sold a year (or more in some cases) in advance - ticket sales seem to be getting earlier and earlier all the time.

A cynic would be looking at all the interest to be earned from all that dosh sitting in an account for a year or more......

How did they all manage before this trend started?

Peppa Pig · 05-07-2014 10:14AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

All gigs major are subject to license

One direction wasn't. There was no need to apply for a licence, nor was it printed on the tickets.

Larbre34 · 05-07-2014 10:31AM

Are people thick. ALL events having a crowd exceeding 5,000 have to apply for a licence from the planning authority, i.e. the local Council.

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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