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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #5342
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Caliden wrote: »
    He sounds like he's the bloody pope or something

    He also said it was like having to choose between your children.

    I guess that's the way Sophie should have screwed the nazi's. Can't make a choice? get the Nazi's to kill both. That'll teach em.


  • #5343
    stinkle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    galwayredgirl wrote: »
    The country singer said: “I have faith that Dublin City Council will make the best decision for the people of Ireland."


    Please let the Messiah come......... :rolleyes: - The people of Ireland? Best decision? - Ego or what?

    When I read that earlier I cringed. It reeked of egotism, bit of brainwashery and a hint of parish pump brown enveloping - "best decision, wink wink, here have this wad of unmarked dollar bills".


  • #5344
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Bambi wrote: »
    Does anyone out there who works in event management actually believe the "we scaled this for five nights" bollocks?

    That giant Stetson that he ordered after it went from 2 gigs to 5 must be bloody expensive!

    How different could he have changed the production/stage set to make the new set up be unviable if he only does 2 gigs. I smell bullsh1t too. And Aiken/GB should give some proof if it's to be believed.


  • #5345
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    They did it and did it twice actually with the Volvo Ocean race visiting twice in three years and it was a two week festival not another 7 day one ;)
    That was planned and approved many months in advance.


  • #5346
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,510 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    They did it and did it twice actually with the Volvo Ocean race visiting twice in three years and it was a two week festival not another 7 day one ;)

    Big difference. Let me explain. That's not a concert. That's a festival.

    Dublin holds them all the time, Pride Festival, Tall Ships, Docklands, Food festivals, Film festivals etc... they are free, everyone is welcome, they are a celebration.


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  • #5347
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,738 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    galwayredgirl wrote: »
    The country singer said: “I have faith that Dublin City Council will make the best decision for the people of Ireland."

    "... not the residents. Not those people of Ireland. I mean the ones paying to go to my concert and probably buy some CDs and t-shirts and posters. Those people of Ireland."


  • #5348
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Now Billy Ray Cyrus is saying he might have to reconsider Slane 2015-I hope the residents are happy.


  • #5349
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    punchestown now


  • #5350
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    punchestown now

    would still take 10 weeks minimum to obtain the necessary licence


  • #5351
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #5352
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    cournioni wrote: »
    Three events doesn't necessarily mean three concerts though, an event can be week long.

    Again, they chose to live beside the biggest stadium in the country, "putting up" with football and hurling matches played in it shouldn't be on the agenda at all.

    Then we're really getting into silly territory if an event is not time limited..and remember this stadium was hugely expanded in recent years.


  • #5353
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    sabat wrote: »
    Now Billy Ray Cyrus is saying he might have to reconsider Slane 2015-I hope the residents are happy.

    Why?if GB does cancel his 3 concerts (he won't) then surely our country brethren will be even more keen to pay through the nose to see another awful,washed up country singer instead.


  • #5354
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Big difference. Let me explain. That's not a concert. That's a festival.

    Dublin holds them all the time, Pride Festival, Tall Ships, Docklands, Food festivals, Film festivals etc... they are free, everyone is welcome, they are a celebration.

    As far as disruption, road closures, noise, anti-social behaviour etc it makes no difference though. Are you saying children are welcome on the streets of Galway at 1am with 20 or 30 thousand people (including myself) swallowing pints?

    Also the Garth Brooks concerts were a celebration and a festival for 400,000 people going, that's more than any festival gets.


  • #5355
    wolfyboy555
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    would still take 10 weeks minimum to obtain the necessary licence

    Can I ask why it takes so long to obtain a license?


  • #5356
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    They cant under the current legislation.


  • #5357
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,022 ✭✭✭uch


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    As far as disruption, road closures, noise, anti-social behaviour etc it makes no difference though. Are you saying children are welcome on the streets of Galway at 1am with 20 or 30 thousand people (including myself) swallowing pints?

    Also the Garth Brooks concerts were a celebration and a festival     for 400,000 people going, that's more than any festival gets.

    Ah now your talking through yer hole, it's about hard cash, nothing more

    21/25



  • #5358
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #5359
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    They cant under the current legislation.

    It will be like the night of the bank guarantee to get Garth on that stage

    legislation will be changed


  • #5360
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    wolfyboy555 wrote: »
    Can I ask why it takes so long to obtain a license?

    That's the law, I presume it so that the relevant CC can take submissions from interested parties and give consideration to the effects of the event on the local area.


  • #5361
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Do other county councils work at the same speed? Or would the bonanza windfall of having these concerts in their patch speed up the process?


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  • #5362
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It will be like the night of the bank guarantee to get Garth on that stage

    legislation will be changed

    Even that takes time, you wont do it in a week.
    The bank guarantee was different because the Constitution allows for emergency legislation to be passed under very limited circumstances, a washed overweight country singers concerts wouldn't qualify!


  • #5363
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    Do other county councils work at the same speed? Or would the bonanza windfall of having these concerts in their patch speed up the process?

    They operate to the same laws!


  • #5364
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    They operate to the same laws!

    I get that, but what I am wondering is if the 10 week lead time that DCC have is the same for other county councils. Or could some grant a licence faster, within the current framework of the law?

    If the law states that it needs to take 10 weeks to allow for submissions from supporters and objectors than so be it.


  • #5365
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    Even that takes time, you wont do it in a week.
    The bank guarantee was different because the Constitution allows for emergency legislation to be passed under very limited circumstances, a washed overweight country singers concerts wouldn't qualify!

    I think you will agree this is now a national emergency that could easily slide into a disaster if we cant get the Tulsa Tiger up onto the stage


  • #5366
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,604 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    sabat wrote: »
    Now Billy Ray Cyrus is saying he might have to reconsider Slane 2015-I hope the residents are happy.

    Well at least Dolly Parton has said that she hopes everyone gets to see her two! (shows that is)


  • #5367
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    I get that, but what I am wondering is if the 10 week lead time that DCC have is the same for other county councils. Or could some grant a licence faster, within the current framework of the law?

    If the law states that it needs to take 10 weeks to allow for submissions from supporters and objectors than so be it.

    It's just the law that your application has to be in 10 weeks beforehand, Not DCC's rules.


  • #5368
    Shiraz 4.99
    Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    punchestown now

    Perhaps the greatest bluff of all but a masterstroke by Aitken if he pulls it off.
    Queue the backtrack by DCC once the backlash kicks in for losing all the concerts.
    Sits in chair & strokes cat. Ha ha ha.


  • #5369
    delw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    How dare those pesky residents stand up for their rights after people spending all that money,they'll be looking to cancel Christmas next


  • #5370
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    Perhaps the greatest bluff of all but a masterstroke by Aitken if he pulls it off.
    Queue the backtrack by DCC once the backlash kicks in for losing all the concerts.
    Sits in chair & strokes cat. Ha ha ha.

    DCC cannot backtrack, the decision cannot be changed by DCC and there is no appeals mechanism from it, save to the Superior Courts on a point of law.


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  • #5371
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    I get that, but what I am wondering is if the 10 week lead time that DCC have is the same for other county councils. Or could some grant a licence faster, within the current framework of the law?

    If the law states that it needs to take 10 weeks to allow for submissions from supporters and objectors than so be it.

    The law states any planning application must be made not less than 10 weeks in advance of the event start, it doesn't really matter in that respect how quickly a local authority make a decision.


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