Can we kill Irish once and for all

shane7218 · 03-07-2014 11:14PM #1

I think its time to stop with the stupidity of forcing people to sit an Irish exam for the leaving cert. It's fine for the Junior but how is it fair that you have to do it for an exam that determines the college course you get ?. It's long overdue to add technology related exams such as Programming exams which are actually useful.

cloud493 · 03-07-2014 11:16PM

Wow what an original thought and after hours topic. Do one on social welfare payments next, no ones bitched about that here before either.

WellThen? · 03-07-2014 11:17PM

Bitching about posters choice of topic is worse in After Hours.

nxbyveromdwjpg · 03-07-2014 11:18PM

I agree, well maybe not killed what with culture etc, but it shouldn't be mandatory.

solomafioso · 03-07-2014 11:18PM

I don't know what a tracker mortgage is!

AnonoBoy · 03-07-2014 11:19PM

An bhfuil cead agam Gaeilge a mharú?

STADEdeLUC · 03-07-2014 11:19PM

Disagree, having done the leavng cert recently I think Irish shouldn't be removed but rather improved, id love to see even more emphasis put on spoken irish, ''beatha teanga í a labhairt''

shane7218 · 03-07-2014 11:20PM

STADEdeLUC wrote: »

Disagree, having done the leavng cert recently and coming from a city background I think Irish shouldn't be removed but rather improved, id love to see even more emphasis put on spoken irish, ''beatha teanga í a labhairt''

But what use is it ...For all intensive purpose's its a dead language

Tail Docker · 03-07-2014 11:20PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

An bhfuil cead agam Gaeilge a mharú?

No ides what you are on about, happily. Irish is like latin, it's ok, but hardly essential. And by "ok", I mean shyte.

auldgranny · 03-07-2014 11:21PM

shane7218 wrote: »

But what use is it ...For all intensive purpose's its a dead language

We could use the time to improve people's standard of english

solomafioso · 03-07-2014 11:23PM

shane7218 wrote: »

But what use is it ...For all intensive purpose's its a dead language

It's "intents and purposes". But this thread is just a damp squid. Not to put it on a pedal stool or anything.

Alias G · 03-07-2014 11:23PM

shane7218 wrote: »

But what use is it ...For all intensive purpose's its a dead language

Well you should certainly work on your English as a priority in fairness.

shane7218 · 03-07-2014 11:23PM

Like I struggled with Irish in school and barely passed it, yet I did great in everything else and almost missed out on getting into a computer science course. How can we justify something like Irish determining if someone is good enough to study an IT related course or any for that matter.

AnonoBoy · 03-07-2014 11:24PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

No ides what you are on about

You got it in one - I was quoting Shakespeare as Gaeilge - "Beware the ides of March dude."

entangled · 03-07-2014 11:24PM

solomafioso wrote: »

It's "intents and purposes". But this thread is just a damp squid. Not to put it on a pedal stool or anything.

You're only saying that to tow the line.

solomafioso · 03-07-2014 11:25PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You got it in one - I was quoting Shakespeare as Gaeilge - "Beware the ides of March dude."

"So foul and fair a language I have not seen"

Sound of Silence · 03-07-2014 11:26PM

shane7218 wrote: »

But what use is it ...For all intensive purpose's its a dead language

I would be lying if I said that even half of what I learned in Secondary education was relevant or useful to me outside of School.

Alias G · 03-07-2014 11:26PM

shane7218 wrote: »

Like I struggled with Irish in school and barely passed it, yet I did great in everything else and almost missed out on getting into a computer science course. How can we justify something like Irish determining if someone is good enough to study an IT related course or any for that matter.

The world would be such a fun place if only it was full of computer scientists.

alchemist33 · 03-07-2014 11:26PM

It's of no use in the outside world but it's a vital part of our heritage. I can't understand Irish people who want it to die.

StaticNoise · 03-07-2014 11:27PM

The real problem is the Gaelscoils. They're flooding the country (slowly) and those in them are making themselves feel more worthy than others. Even Government jobs have a special Irish language stream that gives preference to Irish speakers.

Yes, dump it. If you're a die hard nationalist, fine, speak it, if you think that you can... But it shouldn't be pushed. Buses, road signs, literature, all dual language. C'mon..

LeinsterDub · 03-07-2014 11:28PM

shane7218 wrote: »

Like I struggled with Irish in school and barely passed it, yet I did great in everything else and almost missed out on getting into a computer science course. How can we justify something like Irish determining if someone is good enough to study an IT related course or any for that matter.

Studying Irish is a lot like the pealing of an orange. In that we've not had a Simpsons quote yet

dodderangler · 03-07-2014 11:30PM

Pain in me b0llox with people like you trying to rid us of our original language.
I can speak enough to have a conversation and il be damned if we are to rid ourselves of it.
It's a beautiful language. No one is for in you to learn it but you can fcuk off if you think we should rid ourselves entirely of it just cuz you can't understand it.

shane7218 · 03-07-2014 11:31PM

dodderangler wrote: »

Pain in me b0llox with people like you trying to rid us of our original language.
I can speak enough to have a conversation and il be damned if we are to rid ourselves of it.
It's a beautiful language. No one is for in you to learn it but you can fcuk off if you think we should rid ourselves entirely of it just cuz you can't understand it.

Why should we be FORCED to learn it ?. If you want to that's fine but it should not be mandatory

Tail Docker · 03-07-2014 11:32PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You got it in one - I was quoting Shakespeare as Gaeilge - "Beware the ides of March dude."

I didn't think you'd notice. Fair fecks to you.:D People generally don't..

shruikan2553 · 03-07-2014 11:33PM

Just stop making it compulsory. If it is as important as some make it out to be it wont die.

Iwasfrozen · 03-07-2014 11:33PM

shane7218 wrote: »

I think its time to stop with the stupidity of forcing people to sit an Irish exam for the leaving cert. It's fine for the Junior but how is it fair that you have to do it for an exam that determines the college course you get ?. It's long overdue to add technology related exams such as Programming exams which are actually useful.

Yes please.

steveone · 03-07-2014 11:33PM

If you take the exams in Irish do you still get extra marks?

Taco Chips · 03-07-2014 11:34PM

shane7218 wrote: »

Like I struggled with Irish in school and barely passed it, yet I did great in everything else and almost missed out on getting into a computer science course. How can we justify something like Irish determining if someone is good enough to study an IT related course or any for that matter.

Maybe you should have picked up an extra subject to compensate if you were weak at Irish? Or worked a bit harder at Irish. It's really frustrating seeing people crib and bitch about Irish at school. They have a block to it, not willing to give it a chance or even try at the subject.

The truth is Irish is quite an accessible language and at Leaving Cert there is a diverse range of ways that its tested in. Oral, listening, written composition, poetry, pros etc... So if you are not so good in one area there is still room for you to shine in other parts of the exam. But unfortunately there is an attitude amongst people that they will just never be able to speak it. They develop a nasty outlook and quit before they even give learning a proper shot. It's a great shame because it's a beautiful language, steeped in quirks and romance that is a pleasure to learn once you apply yourself to it. But I suppose it's much easier for people to complain and demand something be taken off the curriculum instead of give it an honest crack of the whip.

shane7218 · 03-07-2014 11:35PM

Taco Chips wrote: »

Maybe you should have picked up an extra subject to compensate if you were weak at Irish? Or worked a bit harder at Irish. It's really frustrating seeing people crib and bitch about Irish at school. They have a block to it, not willing to give it a chance or even try at the subject.

The truth is Irish is quite an accessible language and at Leaving Cert there is a diverse range of ways that its tested in. Oral, listening, written composition, poetry, pros etc... So if you are not so good in one area there is still room for you to shine in other parts of the exam. But unfortunately there is an attitude amongst people that they will just never be able to speak it. They develop a nasty outlook and quit before they even give learning a proper shot. It's a great shame because it's a beautiful language, steeped in quirks and romance that is a pleasure to learn once you apply yourself to it. But I suppose it's much easier for people to complain and demand something be taken off the curriculum instead of give it an honest crack of the whip.

But I have no interest in learning something that is useless to me. So why should I be forced it should be my choice. If we use that logic every one should be forced to take science

shane7218 · 03-07-2014 11:35PM

steveone wrote: »

If you take the exams in Irish do you still get extra marks?

Hard to believe but yes

bitemeluis · 03-07-2014 11:36PM

I had to do an English exam in school, wasnt sure why cause I could already speak it

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