Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

MD1990 · 02-07-2014 02:05PM

Panthro wrote: »

Don't know if ye've seen it, Sanchez doesn't want Liverpool move apparently, prefers Arsenal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2677843/Alexis-Sanchez-says-prefer-join-Arsenal-not-Liverpool-despite-Barcelona-wanting-use-Luis-Suarez-deal.html

Show him highlights of our 5-1 demolition of Arsenal in February & hopefully Rodgers could get to talk to him to try & sell him Liverpool.

citytillidie · 02-07-2014 02:07PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Shows the lack of ambition in the guy if it's true.

Or who bigger draw living in London is compared to Liverpool

Grayditch · 02-07-2014 02:08PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

Don't mistake kissing the badge or crying for club loyalty. I don't think he'll even visit Liverpool on holidays!

Where do I look for it, then? Running himself into the ground?

CHECK.

I don't really care what constitutes loyalty after the performances are put in, but as a sidenote, I believe he cares about Liverpool just a loads of players care about their club. He can still go to Barca and feel the same, whether he visits the...erm.. city of Liverpool again, if that matters.

Panthro · 02-07-2014 02:08PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Good to see 'non-regulars' picking up Mike's slack with these newspaper reports.

I'll fill in at complaining if anyone reposts it.

Those are big shoes to fill, you sure you're up to it?!:pac:
Reckon such decisions need a poll.

Turtyturd · 02-07-2014 02:08PM

Can also give him a CL qualifier which we can't.

kfallon · 02-07-2014 02:10PM

flugel wrote: »

Anyone who complains about the way Barca or Real go about their business needs to wake up. Big fish preys on small fish. Just as Liverpool use their lofty status in relation to other clubs targetting their players. We all think Southampton had to let both their guys go, because they were getting a dream move and now have a problem with Suarez?

Bottom line is get a substantial fee. End game

It's the way they do it! You didn't hear Liverpool banging on about Lallana in the press or at press conferences. Same with Utd and Shaw. These other two are constantly at it. Someone told me that Barca unveiled Rakitic yesterday or day before and they spent most of the press conference talking about Suarez!

Real are as bad, they spend months using the press to send signals to whoever they want that summer. Look at the stuff with Bale and even Ronaldo. You can understand why Ferguson said what he did about Real.

Brendan Flowers · 02-07-2014 02:12PM

Not a Liverpool fan but I dont what to see him leave. His controversies aside, s player like him would be a huge loss to the Premier League as a whole.

Anyway, it's probably already been discussed here but should his worldwide ban from all football related activities not include transfers as well?

Spring Onion · 02-07-2014 02:13PM

How much do you think the "bite" will cost Liverpool? I imagine his price tag must have dropped 20-30% as a result.

Agent Coulson · 02-07-2014 02:15PM

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Not a Liverpool fan but I dont what to see him leave. His controversies aside, s player like him would be a huge loss to the Premier League as a whole.

Anyway, it's probably already been discussed here but should his worldwide ban from all football related activities not include transfers as well?

It did.

Then FIFA somehow changed there minds just like the ban they put on Barca not being allowed any transfers for a year and half.

Turtyturd · 02-07-2014 02:16PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

How much do you think the "bite" will cost Liverpool? I imagine his price tag must have dropped 20-30% as a result.

Why?

Devilman40k · 02-07-2014 02:16PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

How much do you think the "bite" will cost Liverpool? I imagine his price tag must have dropped 20-30% as a result.

Won't cost anything. If the release clause is 80m that's what the fee will be. Unless there's a bidding war where Real try to stop Barca

Spring Onion · 02-07-2014 02:17PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Why?

4 month ban

kfallon · 02-07-2014 02:17PM

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Not a Liverpool fan but I dont what to see him leave. His controversies aside, s player like him would be a huge loss to the Premier League as a whole.

Anyway, it's probably already been discussed here but should his worldwide ban from all football related activities not include transfers as well?

It didn't suit Barca so they let the transfers out of it.
Same way Barcelona left out a big sigh about getting done for the next two windows that the authorities relented and gave them a year to get all their shopping done!

Spring Onion · 02-07-2014 02:18PM

Devilman40k wrote: »

Won't cost anything. If the release clause is 80m that's what the fee will be. Unless there's a bidding war where Real try to stop Barca

He's hardly worth less than Bale?

magentis · 02-07-2014 02:18PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

4 month ban

Means nothing.
He is still a top,top,top player.

Spring Onion · 02-07-2014 02:19PM

4 month ban and repeat offender.

Grayditch · 02-07-2014 02:19PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

How much do you think the "bite" will cost Liverpool? I imagine his price tag must have dropped 20-30% as a result.

It all depends on if there was already a clause to sell to Real or Barca at a certain price, I would reckon.

In which case, Barca or Real could ask for a discounted price, seeing as he's banned for a while.

In which case Liverpool could refuse, as it was the players fault, which could possibly affect the clause in the first place.

I have never ever studied sport law, but I love a good bit of speculation.

magentis · 02-07-2014 02:20PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

4 month ban and repeat offender.

If they want him they may pay the release clause amount.

spockety · 02-07-2014 02:21PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

4 month ban and repeat offender.

Makes no odds. 4 months means nothing in a 5 year contract term.

He makes up for it with his fitness anyway, the guy doesn't have recurring injuries.

slingerz · 02-07-2014 02:22PM

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Not a Liverpool fan but I dont what to see him leave. His controversies aside, s player like him would be a huge loss to the Premier League as a whole.

Anyway, it's probably already been discussed here but should his worldwide ban from all football related activities not include transfers as well?

TBH the premier league has lost a bit in recent years with an exodus of the best players to Spain.

Recent years have seen Alonso, Mascherano, Song, Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez all look likely to leave for Barca/Madrid and impact on the quality in the EPL.

i think we here would all prefer, regardless of club allegiance to see the best players in the world playing in the EPL. The tax system in Spain versus the tax system in the UK is limiting that potentially.

On an aside, should football take off in the states then you may see MLS sides becoming the next major force league and attract a lot better/younger players based on the salaries that would become available there.

Spring Onion · 02-07-2014 02:22PM

Grayditch wrote: »

It all depends on if there was already a clause to sell to Real or Barca at a certain price, I would reckon.

In which case, Barca or Real could ask for a discounted price, seeing as he's banned for a while.

In which case Liverpool could refuse, as it was the players fault, which could possibly affect the clause in the first place.

I have never ever studied sport law, but I love a good bit of speculation.

Do we know for sure there is a release clause and what value it has?

I would have valued him at 100m or more before the bite. Maybe 80m after.

Augmerson · 02-07-2014 02:23PM

Moving through Germany at the moment. Every time I see a Starbucks I rush in and try find out the news. Bit nerve wracking firing up the iPhone to see if Chewie is gone or staying.

slingerz · 02-07-2014 02:23PM

Apparently Lallana fee is £16M plus add ons based on the fact that Bournemouth received £4M for their Sell On Fee clause

Grayditch · 02-07-2014 02:24PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

Do we know for sure there is a release clause and what value it has?

No for sures. I would say it's why Suarez behaved himself all season and dropped the sulk, to be honest. No idea what the bite at the World Cup was about, though.

noodler · 02-07-2014 02:26PM

slingerz wrote: »

Apparently Lallana fee is £16M plus add ons based on the fact that Bournemouth received £4M for their Sell On Fee clause

So, its 20m plus add-ons?

Grayditch · 02-07-2014 02:27PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Moving through Germany at the moment. Every time I see a Starbucks I rush in and try find out the news. Bit nerve wracking firing up the iPhone to see if Chewie is gone or staying.

Jaysus, your insides must be spotless, at this stage.

Nuri Sahin · 02-07-2014 02:27PM

Devilman40k · 02-07-2014 02:28PM

noodler wrote: »

So, its 20m plus add-ons?

No...Bournemouth were due 25% of the transfer fee. So 4m they get means 12 for Southampton. Overall 16 + add-ons

Agent Coulson · 02-07-2014 02:32PM

noodler wrote: »

So, its 20m plus add-ons?

25% of £16m is £4m so I'm guessing it means a lump some of £16m. £4m goes to Bournemouth. Southampton get £12m then up front then £9m more with add ons which would be £21m total for Southampton after add ons are paid.

theballz · 02-07-2014 02:33PM

slingerz wrote: »

TBH the premier league has lost a bit in recent years with an exodus of the best players to Spain.

Recent years have seen Alonso, Mascherano, Song, Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez all look likely to leave for Barca/Madrid and impact on the quality in the EPL.

i think we here would all prefer, regardless of club allegiance to see the best players in the world playing in the EPL. The tax system in Spain versus the tax system in the UK is limiting that potentially.

On an aside, should football take off in the states then you may see MLS sides becoming the next major force league and attract a lot better/younger players based on the salaries that would become available there.

Alex Song was one of the PL's best players?

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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07