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What's that piece...?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ThirdMan


    IceFjoem wrote: »
    I haven't seen it, but given the topic I'm putting my money on 'Gymnopedie' by Erik Satie.

    I'm afraid not. It sounds much busier than that, yet it's also gentler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ThirdMan


    Could it be Ravel's Jeux D'eau?

    That does actually remind me of it. But mine is slower, and there's a recurring pattern that is more noticeable. Your piece seems to change around a bit more.

    And thanks everyone for your replies. This really is like looking for a needle in a haystack. My lack of musical knowledge isn't helping either. I just don't how to describe it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ThirdMan


    I've managed to nab an audio sample from the documentary.

    First of all, it sounds much different than I remember, so my awful description is now even less accurate. Second, don't tear me to shreds if you don't like it! :p

    Sample


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    ThirdMan wrote: »
    I've managed to nab an audio sample from the documentary.

    First of all, it sounds much different than I remember, so my awful description is now even less accurate. Second, don't tear me to shreds if you don't like it! :p

    Sample

    It's from Saint-Saens' Carnival of the Animals. The movement is 'the Aquarium'



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ThirdMan


    darjeeling wrote: »
    It's from Saint-Saens' Carnival of the Animals. The movement is 'the Aquarium'

    My quest is over. Many thanks!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    I wonder can anyone here identify this Vivaldi violin sonata. The CD has it down as RV574 but that an entirely different piece.

    Here's a youtube video of sonata to be identified.



    To skip to a particular movement click below.

    Movement 1

    Movement 2

    Movement 3

    Movement 4

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    Found it. It is:

    Sonata for violin & continuo in C major ("Manchester Sonata" No. 12), RV 754

    1. Preludio: Largo
    2. Allemanda: Allegro
    3. Sarabanda: Largo
    4. Corrente: Allegro

    Thanks to anyone may have tried to identify it. I've updated the Youtube vid to reflect the correct name.

    The Classical Archives site is very handy for quickly identifying pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    here my head is melted : ) anyone help me think of this piece please? It's a classical piece that's kinda Egyptian sounding - like something to do with Cleopatra maybe - gets louder and louder and more dramatic and has a steady drum roll type beat to it which just gets louder and louder as I say haha wish I could offer more information - with a string melody phrase which repeats and repeats and eventually big cymbal swells and all that - I hope somebody can think of what I'm thinking of - coz humming it at my computer screen isn't working : (


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Prince Faint Stockade


    here my head is melted : ) anyone help me think of this piece please? It's a classical piece that's kinda Egyptian sounding - like something to do with Cleopatra maybe - gets louder and louder and more dramatic and has a steady drum roll type beat to it which just gets louder and louder as I say haha wish I could offer more information - with a string melody phrase which repeats and repeats and eventually big cymbal swells and all that - I hope somebody can think of what I'm thinking of - coz humming it at my computer screen isn't working : (

    Sounds like bolero :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWcpw3GAAms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    hahaha thanks eternally, I can take this revolver out of my mouth so ! and lament the attention I chose not to pay to good old Ms Mulchrone in music class... cheers. Mind you I'm about to sample it for a hip hop mash up so I really have no respect at all ; )


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Bolero eh...essentially a minimalist piece...only thing that changes throughout is the instruments.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    true that - but I wouldn't see the 'minimalist' description in a derogatory light.... all modern music comes from classical - which went o blues and to jazz and to rock'n'roll and then pop... the minimalism started with repeated phrases - DJ's are still doin that.... but when the idea of looping is done right and built upon creatively you can find a whole new layer of story telling - based on a platform of repeated phrases - that's the way I view it anyway - unfortunately most music these days takes the repetition concept that we hear in Bolero and old Baroque music and takes the p1ss and so much of it sounds like radio-puke - but not all of it! in every genre that uses repeated phrases like Jazz and melodic underground hip hop and even dub step - there's great works to be found - surrounded by utter mind numbing sub-mediocrity. Even Bolero gets annoying to me - it could have been better! luckily I just want a couple phrases of the melody to layer on top of a scene-song form Breaking Bad I just heard an hour ago when watching episode 3 season 5 when the two guys enter the fumigated house to start cooking meth! ha - wonder if Ravel ever thought he'd be mashing with a meth-cook soundtrack ; )


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    Actually, for anyone interested, here's an interesting wee podcast about Ravel's Bolero, and a woman who did a painting of it called Unraveling Bolero. Apparently the sheer repetitiveness of the music was an early sign of Ravel's eventual mental degeneration.

    What does that say about repetitive club DJs? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    very interesting

    I would refer anyone who thinks of most dance/DJ music as terrible and too repetitive to 'Underworld' who have always relied completely on waves of relentlessly repeating phrases but have done so with a level of creativity on some of their tracks which simply uses the symmetry of repetition to organically extract highs and lows and crescendos using beats which deserve respect and stand way above the mind numbing repetition you so often hear in music these days. This 'piece' can easily be compared to Bolero is its structure and layering - I know this is a classical forum but I'm just making the point that 'repetition is not necessarily failure or a reduction in 'brow' height. If you've no interest in dance music I recommend putting headphones on and turning this one up and opening your mind : )

    I played in the orchestra at the RTE Proms when I was 12, got my performance diploma on the illustrious Treble recorder when I was 14 ....but I worked on the stage at Underworld when they played in Punchestown many years ago and I find if you can drop any preconceptions or mental barriers but retain a good appreciation of music or musical concepts then there's no denying quality in any genre if its there and you'll find so much more great music to hear... outside of your comfort zone... is all I'm saying : )



  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭PatsyR


    Whats the piece of music that plays over the Irish Independent's ad on tv?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭IceFjoem


    PatsyR wrote: »
    Whats the piece of music that plays over the Irish Independent's ad on tv?

    The second movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony, also used very effectively in The King's Speech.

    Edit: it's been re-composed a bit for the ad though to make it synch up


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭PatsyR


    Thank you so much :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I've just heard an ad for "Limerick Sings" festival - there's some choral piece played on it - does anyone know what the piece is? Sounds very familiar, but I can't for the life of me identify it. Sounds very Messiah-ish, but it isn't that.

    Ad was on Lyric, but may be on other RTE stations.

    Hopefully someone can identify it for me, it's driving me mad!


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Marzipan85


    Trumpet piece. Anyone know the name and composer?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    You need to give a bit more information than just being a trumpet piece. Here's a few suggestions though

    There's Henry Purcell's Trumpet Tune



    or maybe Clarke's Trumpet Voluntary



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭IceFjoem


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    Trumpet piece. Anyone know the name and composer?

    You sure it's got a trumpet in it? :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Marzipan85


    Hi,

    Mod copied my post here from another thread, leaving stuff out. Someone has already answered, so I know what the piece is. See below.

    http://mariannesils.podomatic.com/entry/2013-07-31T04_40_00-07_00

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2opGg4Bv0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭IceFjoem


    Hey guys, don't suppose anyone knows what the piece of music in this video is? Is it from Firebird?




    Thanks! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    Music is credited towards the end of the video. It is La Mer from Debussy, first movement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uGcDed4xVD4&t=193

    The orchestration for military band I think gives it a Stravinsky feel with the additional brass and percussion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭IceFjoem


    dlouth15 wrote: »
    Music is credited towards the end of the video. It is La Mer from Debussy, first movement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uGcDed4xVD4&t=193

    The orchestration for military band I think gives it a Stravinsky feel with the additional brass and percussion.

    Ah Jaysus, that's probably the third time I've mistaken La Mer for a piece of Stravinsky's! I should probably listen to it a few times! :p

    Thanks a mil! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    You're welcome. It's hard sometimes to recognize impressionist pieces like this especially if the extract starts some time in the middle. This is the first time I'd heard it done with a band and, although I thought it was probably La Mer, I had to play bits of the piece I have on CD to compare. I thought it might be an original piece done in the style of La Mer. Only at the end when I saw the music credited was I sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    I heard this on Classic FM but the presenter must have given it the full speel on the intro as he said nothing when it ended. I've heard it a few times in the sporting arena and for some reason I thought Big Daddy (Shirley Crabtree) used it as a ring entrance theme (but might have been someone else from the lunchtime wretling on Saturday lunchtime about 30 years ago :(

    daaa da, da-da da da da daa, da-da daa da-da, da-da da da da, da-da da, da-da da, da-da da daa

    I think it was played on trumpets.

    If you can get it from that you're a legend. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭plumpote


    I heard this on Classic FM but the presenter must have given it the full speel on the intro as he said nothing when it ended. I've heard it a few times in the sporting arena and for some reason I thought Big Daddy (Shirley Crabtree) used it as a ring entrance theme (but might have been someone else from the lunchtime wretling on Saturday lunchtime about 30 years ago :(

    You can get the Classic FM playlists on their website, it you knew what time and day you heard to piece at? http://www.classicfm.com/radio/playlist/2014/february/10/classic-fm-drive/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Contained in this promo is a very famous piece of classical music. For the life of me, I can't think of the name of it. I'll kick myself when I'm told it.

    Thanks in advance! :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    DazMarz wrote: »
    Contained in this promo is a very famous piece of classical music. For the life of me, I can't think of the name of it. I'll kick myself when I'm told it.

    Thanks in advance! :)

    It is the Aquarium from Carnival of the Animals by Saint Saens.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭Vinnie69


    Well done dlouth15 ! You beat me to it by 5 mins :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Thanks so much, guys!!! That's been torturing me all day. Searching YouTube and typing in such generic searches as "Fairytale classical music" and so on wasn't getting me anywhere!

    Thanks again!


  • Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭mambo


    DazMarz wrote: »
    Contained in this promo is a very famous piece of classical music. For the life of me, I can't think of the name of it. I'll kick myself when I'm told it.

    Thanks in advance! :)


    Saint-Saens
    "Carnival of the Animals" - "Aquarium" movement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    plumpote wrote: »
    You can get the Classic FM playlists on their website, it you knew what time and day you heard to piece at? http://www.classicfm.com/radio/playlist/2014/february/10/classic-fm-drive/

    Unofrtunately it was more than a few weeks ago, so I don't remember the specific date/time :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭Vinnie69


    Just looking at your "Da" it reminds of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCPz9zygKEo&list=PLplxvYzy1lVfegiHQUYZYiRATKtn8IsuS&index=13 Hope I have hit the right note! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I heard this on Classic FM but the presenter must have given it the full speel on the intro as he said nothing when it ended. I've heard it a few times in the sporting arena and for some reason I thought Big Daddy (Shirley Crabtree) used it as a ring entrance theme (but might have been someone else from the lunchtime wretling on Saturday lunchtime about 30 years ago :(

    daaa da, da-da da da da daa, da-da daa da-da, da-da da da da, da-da da, da-da da, da-da da daa

    I think it was played on trumpets.

    If you can get it from that you're a legend. :D

    Ok going by the 'daaaaa da' long short idea.. could it be..


    although it's a bit downbeat.. might work for a wrestling baddie ..

    Maybe something more high pitched/upbeat/optimistic ...and restyled with a pop beat by emerson lake and palmer!!! How about this..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Nope - sorry.

    I think upon recollection it was by someone whose name begins with 'V' - I thought it was Vivaldi, but I cannot find it.

    I'm going to die unfulfilled :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Nope - sorry.

    I think upon recollection it was by someone whose name begins with 'V' - I thought it was Vivaldi, but I cannot find it.

    I'm going to die unfulfilled :(

    Possibly beginning with V ...could be vivaldi!! He was more of a strings dude so I don't know about the trumpets idea...maybe the gloria?




    It's not Vagner is it:o



    Can you actually humm the tune in your head? Are your 'Daaaaa da"'s definitely right... what does the hyphen mean in the "da-da" also I presume the commas mean a little break ?

    Try playing the first few notes on here maybe Melody finder thing


    It's not Verdi by any chance you are thinking of?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,422 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I think upon recollection it was by someone whose name begins with 'V' - I thought it was Vivaldi, but I cannot find it.

    Not Vangelis by any chance?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭4umbrellas


    Big Daddy seems to have used 'We shall not be moved' as his entrance music, so it was probably a different wrestler.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    4umbrellas wrote: »
    Big Daddy seems to have used 'We shall not be moved' as his entrance music, so it was probably a different wrestler.

    I associated it with Big Daddy. I thought it was one he sometimes used, but it may have been another wrestler from that era in British wrestling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭XVII


    Hi guys, I have a few pieces to identify (mp3 format). What would be the best website for you to put them on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    XVII wrote: »
    Hi guys, I have a few pieces to identify (mp3 format). What would be the best website for you to put them on?
    sound cloud I would suggest. I've also converted mp3s to video format and uploaded them to youtube but that is a bit more involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Can't wait, that last unsolved one is wrecking my head... Might begin with V eh!

    Maybe before we hear the sound cloud excerpt the poster could do dahs,dees and dums in the spirit of things.

    Anyway...ears at the ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭XVII


    Maybe before we hear the sound cloud excerpt the poster could do dahs,dees and dums in the spirit of things.
    haha it would be a bit too tough for me for these particular pieces.

    So, here we go, 3 of them:
    https://soundcloud.com/crnl-1/sets/sounds
    Please bear in mind that they are taken from various songs where they were used as samples. So they can be slightly altered. For instance, track 1 has those quite beats, track 2 has a trumpet sound at the end (I'm not sure if it belongs to the original piece), and track 3 has a noise added.

    I actually wanted to get these identified for ages, thanks for any help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    XVII wrote: »
    haha it would be a bit too tough for me for these particular pieces.

    So, here we go, 3 of them:
    https://soundcloud.com/crnl-1/sets/sounds
    Please bear in mind that they are taken from various songs where they were used as samples. So they can be slightly altered. For instance, track 1 has those quite beats, track 2 has a trumpet sound at the end (I'm not sure if it belongs to the original piece), and track 3 has a noise added.

    I actually wanted to get these identified for ages, thanks for any help!
    The second one sounds a bit like parts of Georgi Ligety's "Requiem" which was used in Kupric's film 2001 A Space Odyssey.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wawSCvuGj4o

    Sorry I can't help with the others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    3rd one sounds like the Kyrie Eleison from Mozarts Requiem.... BACKWARDS:eek:

    Is this the work of Old Nick himself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭XVII


    Armelodie wrote: »
    3rd one sounds like the Kyrie Eleison from Mozarts Requiem.... BACKWARDS:eek:

    Is this the work of Old Nick himself?

    Haha, sounds very much like. Thanks a lot, I would probably never figure this out.
    I'm checking Ligeti's piece now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭XVII


    dlouth15 wrote: »
    The second one sounds a bit like parts of Georgi Ligety's "Requiem" which was used in Kupric's film 2001 A Space Odyssey.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wawSCvuGj4o

    Sorry I can't help with the others.

    I listened to it twice, and although it sounds very similar at times, I still wasn't able to locate exact piece. Maybe I missed it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dlouth15


    XVII wrote: »
    I listened to it twice, and although it sounds very similar at times, I still wasn't able to locate exact piece. Maybe I missed it?
    I couldn't find the exact place in it. I'm not sure it is actually Requiem by Ligeti either. Very hard to identify this sort of piece where there's no recognizable tune.


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