Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

Crimson King · 30-06-2014 03:39PM

Genuinely think the Vidal links are all agent rumours to increase his earnings potential. Much more likely are Kroos and Carvalho signings, and they would be excellent signings.

Also mean a few current players will be shifted out fairly promptly.

Adamocovic · 30-06-2014 03:42PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Genuinely think the Vidal links are all agent rumours to increase his earnings potential. Much more likely are Kroos and Carvalho signings, and they would be excellent signings.

Also mean a few current players will be shifted out fairly promptly.

Yea I expect a few to be sold when VG meets up with the United team for the pre season tour. Most likely the midfield will be stripped. Think Valencia, Nani, Anderson, Cleverly, Young and Fellaini might be causalities (although I have a feeling VG will like the sort of player Fellaini is and keep him).

Lukker- · 30-06-2014 03:47PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Yea I expect a few to be sold when VG meets up with the United team for the pre season tour. Most likely the midfield will be stripped. Think Valencia, Nani, Cleverly, Young and Fellaini might be causalities (although I have a feeling VG will like the sort of player Fellaini is and keep him).

Valencia just signed a new contract didn't he? It'll be hard to find a taker for Young on his current wages. I'd expect to see Nani and Cleverly moved on though.

Spazdarn · 30-06-2014 03:49PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Valencia just signed a new contract didn't he? It'll be hard to find a taker for Young on his current wages. I'd expect to see Nani and Cleverly moved on though.

Cleverly could go out on loan. Nani looks to be getting the chop, Valencia got a new contract so can't see him leaving.

Adamocovic · 30-06-2014 03:54PM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

Cleverly could go out on loan. Nani looks to be getting the chop, Valencia got a new contract so can't see him leaving.

The fact Valencia can play right back if needed might make him more valuable to VG too, and true forgot he signed a 3 year contract recently, should be safe so.

Backstreet Moyes · 30-06-2014 03:56PM

I would go all out to sign Vidal but i think it is unlikely. I would not let it put us off other players like Carvalho. Getting both would be unreal but if we picked up Carvalho now and Strootman in January we would be in great shape.

Backstreet Moyes · 30-06-2014 03:57PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

The fact Valencia can play right back if needed might make him more valuable to VG too, and true forgot he signed a 3 year contract recently, should be safe so.

Valencia has played rb a few times. But he certaintly can;t play rb he is hopeless their i will be annoyed if i see him their again.

30-06-2014 03:59PM

I would happily take any one of Kroos, Vidal or Carvalho. After the purchase of Herrera, Vidal would be my own personal choice. Before the purchase of Herrera, it would have been Kroos.

It looks like we are definitely after one more midfielder immediately, with the additional possibility of Strootman in January. To think that we are one more transfer away from having a strong midfield for the first time in years is hard to believe, 2 away from having one of the best MFs in the league, that's Randy Marsh gif territory right there.

Who will suffer? There's Carrick, Cleverley, Fellaini, Fletcher and Anderson. Yes we need squad options, but surely if we acquire one more first team MF player, at least one of those players need to go. It's not as if we have the European games to rotate the players and give them all minutes. Plus after the 'first team spinning wheel' that was last season under Moyes, I would love to see LVG nail down a regular first 11 as soon as possible in the new season.

Spazdarn · 30-06-2014 04:10PM

Honestly feel like Carrick is done, never been a huge fan of his, would be happy to see him moved on. Anderson has one foot out the door, not sure how his loan spell has went as he seemed to have been a sub quite a bit. I'm fond of Fletcher and his ability to take the ball and drop it out to the wings sharpish, but if his health is still poor then he's taking up a position another player could make their own.

Cleverly is poor, doesn't seem to offer a lot, I would give him a season on loan though, as his confidence was utterly shot to pieces. Can't have felt good to see an actual petition made and signed by many to keep you out of the international team.

mcratsix · 30-06-2014 05:00PM

Kroos looks like he's off to Madrid. Can't see us getting Vidal, but I'd absolutely love to have him. I know very little of Strootman and Carvalho, but I'd say they have to be much better than cleverly, Anderson and Carrick. I think two of them will be sold, probably keep Carrick at this stage, who's going to want him at his age really. I also think young has to go, and maybe Nani. I think LVG will like fellaini, he can be big and rough and a nuisance. I think he'll like fletcher too if he's fit, he could be like Kuyt for holland. Another centre mid and a good winger and we'd be set for the season.

DM_7 · 30-06-2014 05:21PM

Kroos was the one to get for age and value with a running down contract but it looks like he wants to go to Real.

Vidal would expensive but I consider the questions raised re his age to be valid. For his position the money talked about (here anyway) it doesn't quite add up to a must have imo when United don't actually have a Champions League to go for this season (Now if he was bought I would be delighted and wouldn't give a monkeys about the money but hear me out).

To spend that kind of money (50 mill as mentioned here since last night) and get that type of player you are thinking of maximising results immediately to get the best from the investment. Without Champions League this season maybe it would make more sense to go for a younger player, the next Vidal or a player of similar age that is available at a cheaper price?

The Premier League doesn't require that level of investment to win imo and is more about a strong squad that can get goals.

So with that in mind some short term signings or younger players might make sense and go all out to get guys like Hummels and Strootman next summer.

Of course all the above can be ignored if the top players can be bought cheaper or United have the funds to go wild this summer and go again next summer (they should have it but tbf since January 100 million euro was spent!).

tvercetti · 30-06-2014 05:24PM

I haven't seen much of Vidal so not sure where he fits in but if Utd happened to sign him, where would he fit in? Could he play alongside Herrera in a 2 man midfield or would they need a DCM sitting.

_______ DCM ________

__ Vidal __ Ander __

_______ Mata _______

_ Rooney __ RVP ____

Personally if it is the system above, I would be slightly disappointed. I know people will say Rafael and Shaw will provide the width but I like wingers.

The ideal player for me is someone who can play alongside herrera in a 4-2-3-1, so is Vidal that player?

Hococop · 30-06-2014 05:37PM

pogba scored

Quandary · 30-06-2014 05:40PM

In fairness it was a simple goal he scored. Saying that though, he has been excellent in the match.

If Chelsea sign him I will be devastated.

Will I Amnt · 30-06-2014 05:42PM

Hococop wrote: »

pogba scored

Wrong thread?

bucketybuck · 30-06-2014 05:48PM

TheDoc wrote: »

I'm in the wrong business. I actually consider myself more articulate then most journalists operating today, and sure I can very much intentionally misread stuff and misinterpret quotes.

I doubt you could manage it in less than 500 words though.

Hococop · 30-06-2014 05:48PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Wrong thread?

no just hate the fact how we let him go

Son Of A Vidic · 30-06-2014 05:58PM

Hococop wrote: »

pogba scored

Nothing to frown about, the keeper handed it to him on a plate.

Rayne Wooney · 30-06-2014 06:03PM

Marca saying that Kroos has reportedly signed a 4 million a year deal with Madrid

I can't see Vidal fitting in at Bayern and if Madrid are out it could leave just the English clubs in for him

Hococop · 30-06-2014 06:16PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Marca saying that Kroos has reportedly signed a 4 million a year deal with Madrid

I can't see Vidal fitting in at Bayern and if Madrid are out it could leave just the English clubs in for him

75 k a week? Odd that's what he is on at Bayern,

Rayne Wooney · 30-06-2014 06:19PM

I think he was on €70k a week at Bayern and that new contract is just under €100k

RobertKK · 30-06-2014 06:43PM

ESPN are going with Juventus want at least £45 million for Vidal and United is Arturo's preferred option.

Rayne Wooney · 30-06-2014 06:44PM

45 million is feck all considering what we've paid for Shaw and Ander, I'd even add another 10 million to that to seal the deal. We aren't going to get a better midfielder