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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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  • #4352
    bmcc10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Christ...

    Do you realise what you've done?:eek:


  • #4353
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    yea I will agree vidal is quality, but im not on the "he is worth 50m + boat"

    He was poor in the champions league and in the semi final v benfica of Europa league he was anonymous. He plays in an extremely poor serie a

    He was taken off after 85m v brazil when extra time was on the cards.

    Spending 50m on a midfielder you have to go for Pogba imo


  • #4354
    bmcc10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    bangkok wrote: »
    yea I will agree vidal is quality, but im not on the "he is worth 50m + boat"

    He was poor in the champions league and in the semi final v benfica of Europa league he was anonymous. He plays in an extremely poor serie a

    He was taken off after 85m v brazil when extra time was on the cards.

    Spending 50m on a midfielder you have to go for Pogba imo

    Such brown.


  • #4355
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Oh the ****ing nonsense in this thread today


  • #4356
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Billy86 wrote: »
    A good few were even bulling when we didn't go for him the time he went to Juve while Ferguson was on about "no value in the market" (he cost just €10.5mn), and some had been saying to sign him even before that.

    What an insane post (not yours).

    if he was that good then and was only cost €10 why didn't any of the English clubs go for him, city utd Liverpool arsenal Chelsea spurs even clubs lower down the table could have afforded his wages, why didn't one of the top side in Germany go for him, or barca or real Madrid?!


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  • #4357
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    bangkok wrote: »
    yea I will agree vidal is quality, but im not on the "he is worth 50m + boat"

    He was poor in the champions league and in the semi final v benfica of Europa league he was anonymous. He plays in an extremely poor serie a

    He was taken off after 85m v brazil when extra time was on the cards.

    Spending 50m on a midfielder you have to go for Pogba imo

    He's only had a knee surgery a couple of months ago...


  • #4358
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    bangkok wrote: »
    yea I will agree vidal is quality, but im not on the "he is worth 50m + boat"

    He was poor in the champions league and in the semi final v benfica of Europa league he was anonymous. He plays in an extremely poor serie a

    He was taken off after 85m v brazil when extra time was on the cards.

    Spending 50m on a midfielder you have to go for Pogba imo

    Actually, I could begin to point out what's wrong with that post but I couldn't be bothered.


  • #4359
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    bangkok wrote: »
    its funny but most people on here hadn't seen anything of vidal before the world cup and are now talking about spending 40-50m on him!!

    811820405.jpg?628

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78601728


  • #4360
    Iseedeadpixels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Oh the ****ing nonsense in this thread today

    That's what happens when there's no transfers for a few days.


  • #4361
    slingerz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭slingerz


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Actually, I could begin to point out what's wrong with that post but I couldn't be bothered.

    TBH i think there were some reasoned points in that debate. Vidal should be a mainstay for Chile not be taken off after 85 mins, the fact he was after knee surgery months previously is indifferent as can you imagine Ireland taking Keane off if in a similar position or Uruguay playing Suarez straight away after his injury.

    For the money bandied about, ~£50M surely Pogba being younger would be a better buy.m Only downside with Pogba would be his decision to leave Utd already.

    Problem being I cant imagine Barca, Madrid, Bayern, PSG, City not being interested in these calibre of players


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  • #4362
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    bangkok wrote: »
    yea I will agree vidal is quality, but im not on the "he is worth 50m + boat"

    He was poor in the champions league and in the semi final v benfica of Europa league he was anonymous. He plays in an extremely poor serie a

    He was taken off after 85m v brazil when extra time was on the cards.

    Spending 50m on a midfielder you have to go for Pogba imo
    If you don't think Vidal is worth 50mn I can only assume you are living several years in the past, with regards to market valuations. 50mn today is about the same as 20mn was a decade ago in terms of transfer market values.

    Your comment about the Brazil game is a wind up, pure and simple. In case you didn't notice it was very hot and humid, and he was knackered having covered possibly the most ground of anyone in the pitch.

    Vidal is currently a lot better than Pogba. Not just better, a lot better. Pogba is dependent on others to help him excel, both Pirlo dictating possession and the tempo, and... Vidal dominating the centre of the pitch. Pogba has the potential to be one of the best CMs the world has seen in a long, long time, maybe even to be one of the best CMs ever. But he is not where some people seem to think he... yet. There are areas of his game that still need to improve a good deal, even though he is currently "FIFA/Pro EV great".


  • #4363
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Keno wrote: »
    811820405.jpg?628

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78601728


    ah yea, 2 years ago the same time they wanted Nurin Sahin to sign!!!!!

    where are the posts for before vidal signed for juve?


  • #4364
    bmcc10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    bangkok wrote: »
    if he was that good then and was only cost €10 why didn't any of the English clubs go for him, city utd Liverpool arsenal Chelsea spurs even clubs lower down the table could have afforded his wages, why didn't one of the top side in Germany go for him, or barca or real Madrid?!

    Ye he really scraped the barrel there with the minnows that is Juve.


  • #4365
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,942 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    bangkok wrote: »
    ah yea, 2 years ago the same time they wanted Nurin Sahin to sign!!!!!

    where are the posts for before vidal signed for juve?

    I'm sure HEadsot will oblige with some posts, I know he was screaming for him at the time.


  • #4366
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Billy86 wrote: »
    If you don't think Vidal is worth 50mn I can only assume you are living several years in the past, with regards to market valuations. 50mn today is about the same as 20mn was a decade ago in terms of transfer market values.

    Your comment about the Brazil game is a wind up, pure and simple. In case you didn't notice it was very hot and humid, and he was knackered having covered possibly the most ground of anyone in the pitch.

    Vidal is currently a lot better than Pogba. Not just better, a lot better. Pogba is dependent on others to help him excel, both Pirlo dictating possession and the tempo, and... Vidal dominating the centre of the pitch. Pogba has the potential to be one of the best CMs the world has seen in a long, long time, maybe even to be one of the best CMs ever. But he is not where some people seem to think he... yet. There are areas of his game that still need to improve a good deal, even though he is currently "FIFA/Pro EV great".

    ah here, leave it out :pac:

    he was knackered?! 50m +??


  • #4367
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    bangkok wrote: »
    ah here, leave it out :pac:

    he was knackered?! 50m +??

    He's been injured and isn't fully fit, what's so hard to understand?


  • #4368
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    bangkok wrote: »
    yes past season, but like I said he is 27, talk of being the best centre midfielder in the world are OTT imo

    Is there a special age you need to be to be the best midfielder in the world? Because I'd have thought around 27 was near perfect. It's literally the average physical and athletic peak for most men.


  • #4369
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,942 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    bangkok wrote: »
    ah here, leave it out :pac:

    he was knackered?! 50m +??

    Van Persie was taken off while 1 down, must be crap.

    Pogba was rested in the second game...RESTED.. 50million??


  • #4370
    NeVeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭NeVeR


    Here's a book you all can read :D

    Calm-DownTime.jpg


  • #4371
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    bangkok wrote: »
    ah here, leave it out :pac:

    he was knackered?! 50m +??
    Congratulations in having one of the weakest arguments I have ever read. Have you been watching the World Cup? Have you seen the introduction of actual water breaks to help with dehydration and exhaustion for all the players? Did you watch extra time in the Costa Rica game last night? Or the Brazil/Chile match that you are actually referring to? Or around a dozen group stage games? Did you notice that in these matches every single player was knackered by 85 minutes?

    Now who would you sign for our midfield, and at what cost?

    And if it is Pogba, explain to us all who will do the legwork, possession and tempo control for us and who will actually battle in midfield for the ball, because Pogba has never shown he is able to do that at this point in his career.


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  • #4372
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    sometimes its better to buy a player coming into his prime years than one already there for example Herrera was a better signing for united than Fabregas was for Chelsea and will prove better in the long run.

    We could have spent stupid money on Baines last year (thankfully we didn't) and signed shaw this year

    On vidal, for anyone who sees him play and knows what he is about, yes he is 27 but his game is all high tempo, flying into tackles etc, he just had knee surgery, do you all honestly think he will be the same player in 3 years time??
    to spend such a huge amount on a player I would rather invest it in a younger player to be honest and Pogba if available would be my choice.


  • #4373
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    You'd comfortably get 4 peak years out of a player Vidal's age, barring a pretty serious injury or a loss of motivation.


  • #4374
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Congratulations in having one of the weakest arguments I have ever read. Have you been watching the World Cup? Have you seen the introduction of actual water breaks to help with dehydration and exhaustion for all the players? Did you watch extra time in the Costa Rica game last night? Or the Brazil/Chile match that you are actually referring to? Or around a dozen group stage games? Did you notice that in these matches every single player was knackered by 85 minutes?

    Now who would you sign for our midfield, and at what cost?

    And if it is Pogba, explain to us all who will do the legwork, possession and tempo control for us and who will actually battle in midfield for the ball, because Pogba has never shown he is able to do that at this point in his career.

    just on that Yesterdays match between Holland and mexico was the first match in the world cup that had an official water break...

    that would be Herrera


  • #4375
    Iseedeadpixels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Zidane and Figo were both in their late 20's when they got signed for massive money.


  • #4376
    Quandary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,493 ✭✭✭Quandary


    Imagine signing Pirlo at 27. You'd have gotten 7 or 8 years of pure unadulterated quality out of him!! Obviously he has always played his game at a leisurely pace, but still!


  • #4377
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Iseedeadpixels wrote: »
    Zidane and Figo were both in their late 20's when they got signed for massive money.

    Real Madrid live on another planet!!


  • #4378
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Quandary wrote: »
    Imagine signing Pirlo at 27. You'd have gotten 7 or 8 years of pure unadulterated quality out of him!! Obviously he has always played his game at a leisurely pace, but still!

    totally different players, Pirlo smokes a cigar when he plays, vidal is a pitpull running around biting everyones leg


  • #4379
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    bangkok wrote: »
    Real Madrid live on another planet!!

    They are not the only ones


  • #4380
    Iseedeadpixels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    bangkok wrote: »
    Real Madrid live on another planet!!

    We just signed a 18 year old for 30 million and paid 28 million for Fellaini.......


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  • #4381
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    Vidal. A proven absolutely brilliant player.

    Available for £50m? Get it done Ed.

    And as for no one wanting him since before he went to Juve, well...... You can search just as easily as I can.

    Jan 2011 from Mitch
    Players that we could sign and play in the CL.....

    Hazard, Rodwell, Henderson, Pastore, Vidal.... there are loads that could add to our midfield options.


    _____________
    July 2011 from Le King
    I'd like to see a much more ball playing defensive midfielder come in like Arturo Vidal. Who is just one of those players who isn't afraid to tackle, but can pick a pass and can get goals.


    _____________
    And ten days after he signed for Juventus from Headshot
    juve got some deal on Vidal
    absolute steal


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