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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Lebron is available on a free transfer should we give our minority owner a try out as a back up keeper :pac:

    His jeresy sales alone would pay his wages for the first season (Maybe):cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Who's Mike?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭patmac


    Interesting article by Catahl Kelly in thescore.ie,, take it ye would take the deal below.
    In the hours before FIFA banned him for four months of “football-related activity,” you could sense where Luis Suarez wanted this to go.

    He wanted to leave this tournament a footballing martyr. He also wanted to manipulate the circumstances of his employment. FIFA has just helped him accomplish both.
    There was a great bureaucratic tongue-lashing given out, which won’t come close to touching Suarez. In fact, he didn’t seem at all bothered by the idea of missing the rest of the World Cup. An hour after the game against Italy – enough time to absorb that he’d been caught on camera and was doomed – he’d shrugged in the mixed zone like a man without worries.

    To his way of thinking, he’d already gotten revenge in the one game that mattered – against England.

    Since arriving there three years ago, Suarez has repeatedly claimed the English media has a vendetta against him. This despite the fact that he was just named the country’s footballer of the year.

    In the presser following The Bite, there were three questions to Uruguay manager Oscar Tabarez about it. All came from English journalists. Tabarez lost his cool and began lecturing them about “cheap morality.”

    For whatever reason, Suarez has concocted a paranoid fantasy in which the forces of Europe have lined up against him. The Uruguayan football establishment has abetted him in this delusion.

    “We don’t have any doubts that this has happened because it’s Suarez involved, and, secondly, because Italy have been eliminated,” his lawyer, Alejandro Balbi, told Uruguayan radio. “There’s a lot of pressure from England and Italy.”

    That story is impossible to disprove, and will therefore live forever. Suarez is now able to pass himself off as a victim in the only place he’ll care about - back home.

    After two goals against England and a great deal of post-match jabbering, Suarez’s desire palpably drained. He was half-hearted against Italy. It’s also important to remember that he underwent knee surgery a month ago. Those are now some very valuable knees, and Suarez may want to protect them.

    One of the several ways to look at his biting of defender Giorgio Chiellini is as a way to end an unwanted professional commitment.

    Surely, he understood that he was headed home once he bit someone. For the third time. Suarez is unhinged, but he’s also proven himself a wonderful facilitator at getting the things he wants.

    So, having showed up the country he hates, he grows bored and frustrated and bites the Italian. He gets banned for however many games. He goes home, where he starts his real work of the summer – leaving England.

    As such, there is a malign brilliance to what Suarez has accomplished here.

    Suarez will not be able to play for his club, Liverpool, until November 1st. He’ll miss a quarter of the Premiership season. He’ll also be absent for the beginning of Liverpool’s crucial Champions League campaign.

    They began last year in similar straits. Suarez missed the first several weeks as he served out a ban for another biting incident – this time against Chelsea’s Branislav Ivanovic.

    This must be getting very old for them.

    From the beginning of this tournament, there was a clear whisper campaign under way to plant the idea of Suarez leaving Liverpool. His father-in-law gave an interview to Spanish TV in which he said it was time for Suarez to decamp England for Spain.

    A former teammate in the Dutch league was dredged up to assert that it was always Suarez’s dream to play at Barcelona.

    And then, lo-and-behold, those very rumours began to surface. Last summer, Suarez flirted outrageously with Real Madrid, saying he would do anything to leave England. When that got nowhere, he switched his sights to Arsenal – which you’ll recall is in England. Neither move came off. Suarez signed a new deal with Liverpool that extends until 2018.

    Now, Barcelona has reportedly made a gigantic cash-and-players pitch that would include $150-million, Chile’s Alexis Sanchez and Spain’s Pedro.

    That would be a very difficult offer to turn down.

    Nonetheless, Liverpool will not want to sell. Or, to put it more precisely, will not want to be seen to be selling. They’ve just bobbed to the surface of the Premiership for the first time years. Suarez may be the best striker on the planet. Selling him will seem like a surrender or, worse yet, a confirmation of their minor league status.

    But Suarez has created the path by which everyone gets to their hoped-for destination.

    The ban makes him a toxic commodity. Liverpool does not have the depth to cover his weeks-long absence. Barcelona does.

    So, he gets to leave. Liverpool can let him leave. Barcelona gets their man.

    Having tried once to disentangle himself from the Premiership, Suarez realized he would have to take more dramatic measures. Those would require rendering himself a pariah in England, paving the way for his exit.

    This is not to suggest that was running through his mind in the moment he sank his teeth into Chiellini. But perhaps he’d been thinking about it long before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    That's just as bad as the conspiracy theories about the English media. There is no way on this earth Suarez wanted to get banned playing for his country and miss the rest of the WC.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    K-9 wrote: »
    That's just as bad as the conspiracy theories about the English media. There is no way on this earth Suarez wanted to get banned playing for his country and miss the rest of the WC.

    Exactly , to me Suarez is the type of player that plays the game like he is on the streets and will do what it takes to win .
    Wether he has to handle it on the line or bite people to annoy or put them off his game . Suarez is a win at all costs player and you can see that very clearly in him .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    patmac wrote: »
    Interesting article by Catahl Kelly in thescore.ie,, take it ye would take the deal below.
    In the hours before FIFA banned him for four months of “football-related activity,” you could sense where Luis Suarez wanted this to go.

    He wanted to leave this tournament a footballing martyr. He also wanted to manipulate the circumstances of his employment. FIFA has just helped him accomplish both.
    There was a great bureaucratic tongue-lashing given out, which won’t come close to touching Suarez. In fact, he didn’t seem at all bothered by the idea of missing the rest of the World Cup. An hour after the game against Italy – enough time to absorb that he’d been caught on camera and was doomed – he’d shrugged in the mixed zone like a man without worries.

    To his way of thinking, he’d already gotten revenge in the one game that mattered – against England.

    Since arriving there three years ago, Suarez has repeatedly claimed the English media has a vendetta against him. This despite the fact that he was just named the country’s footballer of the year.

    In the presser following The Bite, there were three questions to Uruguay manager Oscar Tabarez about it. All came from English journalists. Tabarez lost his cool and began lecturing them about “cheap morality.”

    For whatever reason, Suarez has concocted a paranoid fantasy in which the forces of Europe have lined up against him. The Uruguayan football establishment has abetted him in this delusion.

    “We don’t have any doubts that this has happened because it’s Suarez involved, and, secondly, because Italy have been eliminated,” his lawyer, Alejandro Balbi, told Uruguayan radio. “There’s a lot of pressure from England and Italy.”

    That story is impossible to disprove, and will therefore live forever. Suarez is now able to pass himself off as a victim in the only place he’ll care about - back home.

    After two goals against England and a great deal of post-match jabbering, Suarez’s desire palpably drained. He was half-hearted against Italy. It’s also important to remember that he underwent knee surgery a month ago. Those are now some very valuable knees, and Suarez may want to protect them.

    One of the several ways to look at his biting of defender Giorgio Chiellini is as a way to end an unwanted professional commitment.

    Surely, he understood that he was headed home once he bit someone. For the third time. Suarez is unhinged, but he’s also proven himself a wonderful facilitator at getting the things he wants.

    So, having showed up the country he hates, he grows bored and frustrated and bites the Italian. He gets banned for however many games. He goes home, where he starts his real work of the summer – leaving England.

    As such, there is a malign brilliance to what Suarez has accomplished here.

    Suarez will not be able to play for his club, Liverpool, until November 1st. He’ll miss a quarter of the Premiership season. He’ll also be absent for the beginning of Liverpool’s crucial Champions League campaign.

    They began last year in similar straits. Suarez missed the first several weeks as he served out a ban for another biting incident – this time against Chelsea’s Branislav Ivanovic.

    This must be getting very old for them.

    From the beginning of this tournament, there was a clear whisper campaign under way to plant the idea of Suarez leaving Liverpool. His father-in-law gave an interview to Spanish TV in which he said it was time for Suarez to decamp England for Spain.

    A former teammate in the Dutch league was dredged up to assert that it was always Suarez’s dream to play at Barcelona.

    And then, lo-and-behold, those very rumours began to surface. Last summer, Suarez flirted outrageously with Real Madrid, saying he would do anything to leave England. When that got nowhere, he switched his sights to Arsenal – which you’ll recall is in England. Neither move came off. Suarez signed a new deal with Liverpool that extends until 2018.

    Now, Barcelona has reportedly made a gigantic cash-and-players pitch that would include $150-million, Chile’s Alexis Sanchez and Spain’s Pedro.

    That would be a very difficult offer to turn down.

    Nonetheless, Liverpool will not want to sell. Or, to put it more precisely, will not want to be seen to be selling. They’ve just bobbed to the surface of the Premiership for the first time years. Suarez may be the best striker on the planet. Selling him will seem like a surrender or, worse yet, a confirmation of their minor league status.

    But Suarez has created the path by which everyone gets to their hoped-for destination.

    The ban makes him a toxic commodity. Liverpool does not have the depth to cover his weeks-long absence. Barcelona does.

    So, he gets to leave. Liverpool can let him leave. Barcelona gets their man.

    Having tried once to disentangle himself from the Premiership, Suarez realized he would have to take more dramatic measures. Those would require rendering himself a pariah in England, paving the way for his exit.

    This is not to suggest that was running through his mind in the moment he sank his teeth into Chiellini. But perhaps he’d been thinking about it long before.

    I don't know what's funnier: the ludicrous conspiracy theory, the fact that he had the balls to publish it, or the idea that Suarez is worth 150 million. Either way, that lad needs to get out more. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    If we cant get Sanchez as part of the deal, I would'nt sell. I cant think of single forward out there that I would want in Suarez's place bar Sanchez. Better to keep him, hope the ban is reduced on appeal and hope he can repeat last seasons form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The reason Suarez is so good is that he plays in the moment he has no Idea what he is going to do next when the ball comes to him. That is why he is so good if he doesn't know what he is going to do how can a defender.

    So to say he is premeditated in anything he does on the pitch is a mistake.

    Of course for a deadball situation he does have a time to think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    I wonder do the people who think cavani is rubbish think the same about Zlatan. I've read that fallacy a lot on boards too.

    I'm hoping we can still convince Sanchez to sign. Tho last night my pyjamaland dreams revealed that we keep Luis and sign xerdan and benatia. That would do gone for me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    150m dollars ? is only 88m pounds. But I don't know why the writer of the article would use dollars?

    Secondly to try and say that Suarez bit the guy on purpose to engineer a move is totally daft.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    That article is horsesh&t.

    'The only game that mattered to him was the England game'. Gimme a break. It amazes me how some people buy into this manure.


  • Posts: 45,738 [Deleted User]


    Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal if he moves at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    Yeah I'd say Sanchez may prefer Arsenal ( London etc etc.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal if he moves at all

    Looks like a case of dumping more money infront of him so .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Hehe...people getting caught out by the amount :D. I'd be proud if that was an original boards post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭jenno86


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal if he moves at all

    Where? I see it in the gossip/rumour section but no where else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,649 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal if he moves at all

    Both arsenal and united seem to think he's moving to their club. Wonder what would happen if arsenal were to lose their champions league play off game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭S. Goodspeed


    There's a bit of a trend in this World Cup of experienced players from premier league teams showing a complete lack of discipline which they never would during the prem season (Muntari, Boateng, Valencia, Assou-Ekotto and 13/14 Luis Suarez). I think when u take some players out of their premier league comfort zone, where they are part of a structure of team mates, managers & coaches (and even psychologists) who know how to make them tick and control them they resort to type. Possibly even the same with Roy Keane back in the day. Doesn't condone what Suarez did at all but might help towards explaining how / why he could let this happen again.


  • Posts: 45,738 [Deleted User]


    jenno86 wrote: »
    Where? I see it in the gossip/rumour section but no where else?

    Yeah that's where it is. No quotes so who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Both arsenal and united seem to think he's moving to their club. Wonder what would happen if arsenal were to lose their champions league play off game?

    Aren't United busy signing the Bundesliga?

    As for Arsenal...hopefully Sanchez is this season's Suarez or Higuain or Bender....etc, etc.

    As for the 2nd question...laughter, lots of laughter.


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  • Posts: 45,738 [Deleted User]


    Liverpool and Arsenal ladies currently playing each other.

    Winner gets Sanchez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I can see us just ending up doing a swap for Tello :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭mav79


    With all the talk of World Cup players, it would be a good time to make a bid for Firmino. Another year and his price will skyrocket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    I can see us just ending up doing a swap for Tello :pac:

    SHUT UP
    SHUT UP
    SHUT UP
    SHUT UP

    :( :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    If Liverpool sell Suarez they need to replace him with world class players, Sanchez fits the bill and would be an incredible signing, realistically the best we could hope for. Shaqiri may not be world class but I would suggest that he is an elite player, despite being maybe a level below Sanchez, signing at least one or two players of this quality is essential if Suarez leaves. What I can see happening however is players such as Lallana and Markovic coming in instead, and while they might turn out to be great signings they are risky signings as replacements for Suarez and could backfire.

    I really think the club need to go all out for Sanchez, if there was ever a time for us to sign a player of that ilk it would be now, and using him as part of the Suarez deal would make sense for all parties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 dairygold1990


    Both arsenal and united seem to think he's moving to their club. Wonder what would happen if arsenal were to lose their champions league play off game?

    Wishful thinking. He will be playing champions league football with arsenal next season. It is an easy decision for Sanchez to make imo. It's obvious what club is moving forward, especially with all the talk of suarez leaving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,649 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Wishful thinking. He will be playing champions league football with arsenal next season. It is an easy decision for Sanchez to make imo. It's obvious what club is moving forward, especially with all the talk of suarez leaving

    The only club from the trio that's moved forward recently isn't arsenal. Unless staying exactly the same in the league at 4th is progress?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Lol at that Score.ie article. Fairly unsuprising though in fairness considering the score.ie is the sport branch of thejournal.ie, all round hack journalism at it's finest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Captain Morgan Freeman


    Wishful thinking. He will be playing champions league football with arsenal next season. It is an easy decision for Sanchez to make imo. It's obvious what club is moving forward, especially with all the talk of suarez leaving

    Arsenal have been standing still for the last 5 years.....

    There's only talk of our best player leaving, Arsenals best players have all left the club in the last few years

    Stones and glass houses etc..........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    Wishful thinking. He will be playing champions league football with arsenal next season. It is an easy decision for Sanchez to make imo. It's obvious what club is moving forward, especially with all the talk of suarez leaving

    Liverpool go from 7th place one season to within 3 points of winning the league the next season and you're arguing Arsenal are the team moving forward? :confused:


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