Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

DM_7 · 29-06-2014 09:16AM

I imagine Hernandez is going to leave this summer

,he needs to go for his own career.

Anderson must be in line for a return to Portugal or going by other Brazilians back home.

Bebe to Portugal.

After them I can also see Nani moving on, he has missed so much football over last two seasons I can see him looking for a change.

Anyone else likely to be leaving (not who you want to leave but actually think will)?

Also it a big year for the club to sort out contracts, De Gea for example is out of contract in 2016, time to be getting him tied down to a 5 year deal. Kahawa, Jones, Evans, Smalling, Rafael, Welbeck all with big years ahead as their contracts ar up in 16 as well. Van Persie has his contract expiring at the same time so an interesting negotiation due there.

Three of last seasons 4 midfield options, Carrick, Fletcher and Cleverley all expire in summer 15

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 29-06-2014 09:20AM

Dirk kuyt been linked with us today in the people, thats just lazy journalism working there way threw the Dutch squad

I hope

TheTownie · 29-06-2014 09:27AM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I imagine Hernandez is going to leave this summer ,he needs to go for his own career.

Anderson must be in line for a return to Portugal or going by other Brazilians back home.

Bebe to Portugal.

After them I can also see Nani moving on, he has missed so much football over last two seasons I can see him looking for a change.

Anyone else likely to be leaving (not who you want to leave but actually think will)?

Also it a big year for the club to sort out contracts, De Gea for example is out of contract in 2016, time to be getting him tied down to a 5 year deal. Kahawa, Jones, Evans, Smalling, Rafael, Welbeck all with big years ahead as their contracts ar up in 16 as well. Van Persie has his contract expiring at the same time so an interesting negotiation due there.

Three of last seasons 4 midfield options, Carrick, Fletcher and Cleverley all expire in summer 15

On top of who you mentioned, one of Welbeck or Kagawa will go if Utd get an attacking player.

tupac_healy · 29-06-2014 09:42AM

MrMac84 wrote: »

Dirk kuyt been linked with us today in the people, thats just lazy journalism working there way threw the Dutch squad

I hope

People take the mick that we've turned into a mid table team... But this is a new low

TheTownie · 29-06-2014 10:06AM

Chico is hurtin'

"This whole year has been very tough," said Hernandez.

"Players need confidence, more than anything else and I’ve been very short of it. Very few people have shown faith in me over this past year."

"We have to stay very calm, very humble and not get carried away," he said.

"This is just one more step forward. If we want to make history we have to beat the Netherlands"

Iseedeadpixels · 29-06-2014 10:07AM

Lot of talk of De Jong, I'd say hes next for us.

Headshot · 29-06-2014 10:08AM

Poor Chico

Please dont go, let welbeck go instead

KH25 · 29-06-2014 10:11AM

Moyes really dicked Chicho around. He only gave him 5 minutes here and there at the end of games. The lad is a fantastic goal scorer and a real poacher. He deserves better than to be stuck on the bench week in week out while Welbeck gets plenty of chances yet can't hit a barn door.

duffman13 · 29-06-2014 10:14AM

I really really like Chico, I mean how can you not but I just think his game is too one dimensional to ever be a starter for united or most top teams. He's a great finisher and a really nice lad but if he is not happy doing the impact sub role we should let him go.

redbaron_99 · 29-06-2014 10:16AM

KH25 wrote: »

Moyes really dicked Chicho around. He only gave him 5 minutes here and there at the end of games. The lad is a fantastic goal scorer and a real poacher. He deserves better than to be stuck on the bench week in week out while Welbeck gets plenty of chances yet can't hit a barn door.

Totally agree. I really like Chico, and think he would be best leaving united. He shouldn't waste his career warming a bench.
I'll go out in a limb here. Chelsea would have won the league last year if they had bought Chico last summer.
A wonderful player when he gets a run of games.

I wouldn't lose any sleep if any of cleverly, Anderson, be be, wellbeck, fletcher, young or nani left.

Kagawa will certainly get another season. LVG spoke very highly of him recently, so he'll get his chance to impress.

RasTa · 29-06-2014 10:21AM

I think people are forgetting that Chico can't play football. Watch his first touch if he starts against Holland today.

KH25 · 29-06-2014 10:24AM

duffman13 wrote: »

I really really like Chico, I mean how can you not but I just think his game is too one dimensional to ever be a starter for united or most top teams. He's a great finisher and a really nice lad but if he is not happy doing the impact sub role we should let him go.

See he might actually be ok with that kind of role if he was used properly. Like Ole was for example. But instead he got barely any game time even when we were screaming out for goals. It was one of the things that really annoyed me about Moyes. He was seemingly afraid to drop or bench Rooney even when he was having a poor game. He also seemed to prefer Welbeck because he was English.

Hernandez is behind Rooney and RVP, thats fair. I don't think he would even argue with that. But he deserves far more than the last five minutes of a game especially when you consider the amount of important goals he has scored in the past for the team.

Mr_Red · 29-06-2014 10:30AM

I believe if Chico played as many minutes as Welbeck last season he would have scored more goals then welbeck

thelad95 · 29-06-2014 10:33AM

RasTa wrote: »

I think people are forgetting that Chico can't play football. Watch his first touch if he starts against Holland today.

Yes he truly does have a terrible first touch....

29-06-2014 10:41AM

Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal should he have to move

TheTownie · 29-06-2014 10:45AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal should he have to move

Thats mean of the Echo getting Arsenal fans hopes up like that.

The_Kew_Tour · 29-06-2014 10:49AM

Oh the tension!!

who will it be? Messi, Strootman, De Jong, Osman or even Cattermole, just who knows:p

redbaron_99 · 29-06-2014 10:49AM

TheTownie wrote: »

Thats mean of the Echo getting Arsenal fans hopes up like that.

I don't think we're in for him. And he would obviously prefer arsenal over Liverpool.

Al Capwned · 29-06-2014 10:51AM

Might be a controversial opinion on here, but given the choice between the two, I'd keep Welbeck and let Hernandez go.

Kerrydude1981 · 29-06-2014 10:53AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Oh the tension!!

who will it be? Messi, Strootman, De Jong, Osman or even Cattermole, just who knows:p

What about Osman?

29-06-2014 10:53AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Echo reporting that Sanchez fancies a move to Arsenal should he have to move

Sorry lads, this post was actually meant for Pool thread

The_Kew_Tour · 29-06-2014 10:54AM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

What about Osman?

Osman it is, then we will get this Messi fella;)

Al Capwned · 29-06-2014 10:55AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Sorry lads, this post was actually meant for Pool thread

Ah still relevant to here though..

GSPfan · 29-06-2014 10:57AM

Al Capwned wrote: »

Might be a controversial opinion on here, but given the choice between the two, I'd keep Welbeck and let Hernandez go.

Depending on the system I could see both of them sold.

If its a front 3 with two wide players then neither of them are good enough in that role. If selling them both meant funding a move for Sanchez and Depay then so be it.

I'm not saying it should happen, just if it does I wouldn't be against it.

Adamocovic · 29-06-2014 11:01AM

Happy with the signings so far, just made this as a joke to how much we've already spent compared to other seasons :P

Be kind I was half awake doing it ha

wowy · 29-06-2014 11:05AM

Re. Welbeck or Chico; Welbeck has an "administrative value" (for want of a much better phrase) in that he's a home-produced player. When are the new squad quotas coming into force?

Adamocovic · 29-06-2014 11:10AM

I'd rather keep Welbeck, I'm hoping he has a good season to put some doubts about him to bed. He seems like a player who loves the club and wants to do well, plus he's still only young.

Pyjamarama · 29-06-2014 11:10AM

Mr_Red wrote: »

I believe if Chico played as many minutes as Welbeck last season he would have scored more goals then welbeck

Welbeck isn't selected for just his goal scoring ability. Would Chico have scored more goals playing out wide? Welbecks versatility and work rate are why he's a far better squad option than Hernandez. Neither should really be starting for a club with major title aspirations but Danny is a great cover option.

DM_7 · 29-06-2014 11:20AM

The frustrating thing with Welbeck is similar to Nani. It is the Foerst Gump "You never know what your gonna get",

One day he can have pace, power, good touch and eye for goal. Next he is back to the Bambi on Ice Welbeck awful touch and not a hope of a goal.

With Hernandez, if he plays consistently you know what you will get, lethal play around the box. The fact he is so reliable when played is worth an awful lot and personally I think he could play for any Club in the World.

Both Suffer from having Rooney and Van Persie at the club. As has Kagawa. United need someone ruthless to just decide on who needs to be there, SAF had his decision made that Rooney was the one to go and then he retired. Moyes decided Rooney must stay and he ended up with a new contract and he sidelined Hernandez to the point of being useless when he was needed towards end of his tenure.

I expect van Gaal to sort it out quickly, people need to go if they are not going to play enough, even if we might not like/agree about who needs to go and get a chance to play elsewhere.

goodolegill · 29-06-2014 11:21AM

People are crazy to think that we could attract Vidal.
If he becomes available, all the major Champions league teams would be in the hunt.
Woodward although happy with the signings has shown himself capable of getting the deal done
in a one horse race - Mata, Shaw and herrera but competing in negotiations against other teams.
I still think he is too wet behind the ears to pull off a major coup rivaling a CL team

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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