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How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

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  • #842
    Brendan Filone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Brendan Filone


    People seem to forget that Suarez once tried to bite Gerrard:

    tACfS04.gif


  • #843
    Godge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah sweet Jesus. Will you stop. Football is big business. Win at all cost and don't care how we get there.


    Have a read of the Health and Safety at Work Act.


  • #844
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,823 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    Obviously it's relevant to the seriousness of his crime.
    Is it really that serious if nobody was hurt?

    Compare it with Hunt stamping on Petr Cech's head and causing a fractured skull - now that had serious consequences and warranted a long ban

    Hilarious. Ah yes, I remember Hunt's Michael Flatley routine on Cech's head...who'd have thunk that would happen :rolleyes:
    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    You shouldn't have bothered. Your reply was useless.
    Hunt deliberately kicked Cech in the head. Maybe he didn't intend to fracture his skull but he meant to "let him know he was there".
    Accidental my arse. We usually hear home town views like this when Irish rugby lads such as Alan Quinlan get done for "eye gouging".

    If you think this was accidental you know very little about the game.
    Years later Hunt wanted to swap shirts after a game v Chelsea. He went to their changing room and was rightly told to F-OFF.

    This was infinitely worse than anything Suarez did.
    So wait, did he stamp on his head or kick him...I'm confused? Was it not his knee that hit his head?

    What you need to remember is, Suarez behaved like an animal and got rightfully punished for it. You may as well accept in and move on instead of stressing yourself coming up with ridiculous arguments and comparisons to try to defend the indefensible.


  • #845
    eyescreamcone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    2 matches
    Godge wrote: »
    Have a read of the Health and Safety at Work Act.

    FFS
    I've just lost the will to live


  • #846
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Godge wrote: »
    Yes.

    Liverpool have a duty to Suarez as his employer. That includes getting to the bottom of whatever causes his aberrant behaviour on the pitch and ensuring it is cured before they let him out there again.

    Obviously the club did work hard with him last season. Threads ridiculous, aids and sexual assault but don't bring up Cantona!Anyway the club can't guarantee he wont do it again!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #847
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


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    Godge wrote: »
    Have a read of the Health and Safety at Work Act.

    Football isn't normal work


  • #848
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    googled eyes wrote: »
    Apparently FIFPRO the player's union are getting involved as the world ban/ stadium and training ban infringes on Suarez' right to work.
    no it doesnt he can get a job in petstores anywhere in uk


  • #849
    Godge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah sweet Jesus. Will you stop. Football is big business. Win at all cost and don't care how we get there.
    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    FFS
    I've just lost the will to live


    When you live in football fantasy land, you don't realise that footballers are also real people, that they are employees, that football clubs are employers and there are legal responsibilities of both. That is real, selling and buying players like commodities is for FIFA 14, pretending they aren't people is for Football Manager, reading the analysis in tabloids etc., those are the things that are not real.

    As I said, have a read of employment legislation.


  • #850
    Godge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    K-9 wrote: »
    Obviously the club did work hard with him last season. Threads ridiculous, aids and sexual assault but don't bring up Cantona!Anyway the club can't guarantee he wont do it again!


    I didn't bring up Cantona, Aids or sexual assault but if diversion works for you, go ahead.

    niallo27 wrote: »
    Football isn't normal work

    Can you point me to the relevant exceptions in employment legislation? Where does the law differentiate between football employments and other employments?


  • #851
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Godge wrote: »
    I didn't bring up Cantona, Aids or sexual assault but if diversion works for you, go ahead.




    Can you point me to the relevant exceptions in employment legislation? Where does the law differentiate between football employments and other employments?

    It was obviously a general comment, yet you didn't bother address the actual relevant points I made, and accuse me of diversion. Hmmmmmmm.......

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #852
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    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    Whether he was retiring or not shouldn't matter. Why suspend him at all then?

    I'm not familiar with the rest of Suarez' transgressions, perhaps you could bring me up to speed on them. All i know is the 3 bites and they are not nearly as bad as what Zidane has done throughout his career. A bit more mental, yes. But as bad, no.

    Ah right so you didn't hear about the racism and going out to do a player that has been shown here in the last few days multiple times. Zidane? Get it together, seriously.


  • #853
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/man-killed-after-attacker-rips-3777324

    cannibals everywhere


  • #854
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


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    Godge wrote: »
    I didn't bring up Cantona, Aids or sexual assault but if diversion works for you, go ahead.




    Can you point me to the relevant exceptions in employment legislation? Where does the law differentiate between football employments and other employments?

    In normal employment employees aren't worth 70 million quid.


  • #855
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


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    K-9 wrote: »
    Threads ridiculous, aids and sexual assault but don't bring up Cantona!

    We're talking about an adult who bites people of course it's ridiculous.

    In normal society a discussion about something like this starts and ends with "there's no excuse for that, take your punishment". You don't need to refer to every past act of stupidity and madness for comparison.


  • #856
    Vanolder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    3 matches
    Cheillini calls the ban drastic and unfair. Argument over. Lock the thread.


  • #857
    pqdvdplayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭pqdvdplayer


    6 month global ban
    Vanolder wrote: »
    Cheillini calls the ban drastic and unfair. Argument over. Lock the thread.

    Cheillini also bit somebody in 2009.. look it up. I'm shocked that most people don't know about this incident.

    Edit: He didn't actually


  • #858
    egghead.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭egghead.


    niallo27 wrote: »
    In normal employment employees aren't worth 70 million quid.

    So all morals and ethics Should go out the window because it's win at all costs and a player is worth 70 million?


  • #859
    Godge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    K-9 wrote: »
    It was obviously a general comment, yet you didn't bother address the actual relevant points I made, and accuse me of diversion. Hmmmmmmm.......


    Cantona, Aids and sexual assault are irrelevant to this discussion. We are in agreement then.

    Now you can address the points I have raised.

    niallo27 wrote: »
    In normal employment employees aren't worth 70 million quid.

    Oh yes, I forgot, the law does not apply to rich people.


  • #860
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


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    egghead. wrote: »
    So all morals and ethics Should go out the window because it's win at all costs and a player is worth 70 million?

    Yes that's generally the feeling across most football clubs would you not agree. I mean if liverpool cancel Suarez's contract and come 7th next year do you think it will be acceptable because it's the right thing to do.


  • #861
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


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    Godge wrote: »
    Cantona, Aids and sexual assault are irrelevant to this discussion. We are in agreement then.

    Now you can address the points I have raised.




    Oh yes, I forgot, the law does not apply to rich people.

    Cantona broke the law so if your going down that line and morally utd should have sold him.


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  • #862
    ArielAtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    18 month global ban
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/donal-og-cusack/donal-og-cusack-suarez-is-just-another-crazy-mixed-up-kid-not-a-bad-person-273535.html

    Excellent article on Suarez.


  • #863
    Smithwicks Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭Smithwicks Man


    6 month global ban
    The content in this thread is an embarrassment to Boards


  • #864
    smileyj1987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    4 matches
    egghead. wrote: »
    So all morals and ethics Should go out the window because it's win at all costs and a player is worth 70 million?

    So cantona can assault a fan serve a ban and can be kept by man utd ?

    Football has no morals and no ethics . If it did people wouldn't be getting paid excessive amounts of money to play it and also the fact that players can be sold for ridiculous sums of money .

    Plus factor in all the cheating of the players in the game too . Diving and simulation . Waving imaginary cards at referees . The game had changed big time in the last 20 years .


  • #865
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Godge wrote: »
    Cantona, Aids and sexual assault are irrelevant to this discussion. We are in agreement then.

    Now you can address the points I have raised.




    Oh yes, I forgot, the law does not apply to rich people.

    I did address them, you just ignored them and went on a tangent. The club obviously did work with him, his on field antics have dropped dramatically. This occurred after a month away. The club treated it very seriously the last time, no doubt will again if he stays.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #866
    egghead.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭egghead.


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Yes that's generally the feeling across most football clubs would you not agree. I mean if liverpool cancel Suarez's contract and come 7th next year do you think it will be acceptable because it's the right thing to do.

    So we should just let footballers do whatever they like on the pitch, because it's win at all costs.

    Who cares about injuring players etc.

    You're been so ridiculous can you not see this?


  • #867
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    1 match
    niallo27 wrote: »
    Cantona broke the law so if your going down that line and morally utd should have sold him.

    You have point there but do you think Man Utd would have kept him if he Kung-fu kicked a fan for a second or even a third time?


  • #868
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


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    egghead. wrote: »
    So we should just let footballers do whatever they like on the pitch, because it's win at all costs.

    Who cares about injuring players etc.

    You're been so ridiculous can you not see this?

    I never said that. I was replying to the post saying Liverpool should cancel his contract because of what he did. He deserves his ban of course he does.


  • #869
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    1 match
    Zico wrote: »
    You have point there but do you think Man Utd would have kept him if he Kung-fu kicked a fan for a second or even a third time?

    I don't know. For me what cantona did was a lot worse than a single bite but the 3 bites is of course a lot more crazy. I just think he is too valuable to the club for them to take the moral high ground.


  • #870
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Cattermole, Barton etc. Would be fecked if we went all Health and Safety mad.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #871
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    1 match
    K-9 wrote: »
    Cattermole, Barton etc. Would be fecked if we went all Health and Safety mad.

    Joey Barton is more of a danger to his own health than anyone else to be fair.:)

    He got a 12 match ban for tarnishing the image of the game didn't he?


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