How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

tok9 · 27-06-2014 11:14AM

Keno wrote: »

Instead of appealing the ban they should ask for trial by combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7m5VcpMCtU

mike65 · 27-06-2014 11:15AM

9 matches

Giorgio Chiellini supports Suarez and says ban is excessive Liverpool Echo 12:11
Luis Suarez ban: Giorgio Chiellini feels Uruguayan's punishment is TOO EXCESSIVE Mirror.co.uk 12:11
Giorgio Chiellini: Luis Suárez’s four-month ban is ‘excessive’ The Sport Review 12:08
Giorgio Chiellini offers Luis Suarez sympathy This is Anfield 12:08

Rayne Wooney · 27-06-2014 11:21AM

FIFA would choose Adebayo Akinfenwa as their champion for trial by combat, he is the strongest man in all of FIFA 14

I think Suarez would lose

SantryRed · 27-06-2014 11:26AM

6 matches

mike65 wrote: »

Giorgio Chiellini supports Suarez and says ban is excessive Liverpool Echo 12:11
Luis Suarez ban: Giorgio Chiellini feels Uruguayan's punishment is TOO EXCESSIVE Mirror.co.uk 12:11
Giorgio Chiellini: Luis Suárez’s four-month ban is ‘excessive’ The Sport Review 12:08
Giorgio Chiellini offers Luis Suarez sympathy This is Anfield 12:08

Fantastic contribution there Mike.

mike65 · 27-06-2014 11:33AM

9 matches

Well it beats yours!

Just showing that even the bitten is a big man (albeit he knows the damage is done to Suarez so can afford to be generous)

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K-9 · 27-06-2014 11:34AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

a past which does not include biting three different opponents but.

Apparently 2 bites was no bother at all for them, 3 seems to be their line.

RasTa · 27-06-2014 11:35AM

3 matches

Well that just says he should be allowed to train with his team mates, nothing like the tabloid crap you posted.

DARK-KNIGHT · 27-06-2014 02:20PM

mike65 wrote: »

Well it beats yours!

Just showing that even the bitten is a big man (albeit he knows the damage is done to Suarez so can afford to be generous)

chellini is very foolish imo suarez hasnt even apologised to him. he also cheated trying to get chiellini sent off. no sympathy for poor luis enjoy your break....

TimeToShine · 27-06-2014 02:29PM

7 matches

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Poor old suarez.

Its such a pity he wont play out the rest of the world cup since he really was lighting up the tournament.

Reminds me a lot of the Zidane incident, in that both had missed good goal opportunities just before their moments of madness.

I know its wrong wrong wrong, but I'd love to see FIFA turn around and let him play the rest of the tournament....

I wont try to 'justify' that statement, I'd just love to see it happen as he is by some distance the most exciting player in the tournament IMHO.

it makes the World Cup less interesting that he is gone. Realistically, Uruguay have no chance without him, whereas with him I reckon they could cause some major upsets.

This has been a fantastic tournament so far, but the last thing we need is for the same old teams to reach the semi's - Brazil, Germany, France, Holland, Germany. If that happens, its really anticlimatic. Brazil win for the umpteenth time......so what......Messi fires a mediocre Argentina team to win....so what.......boring boring Germany........We need teams that can take these on.....Uruguay with Suarez is one of the view that can.....

Aside from the "poor old Suarez" part I Have to agree.

From an entertainment point of view this WC will suffer because of this. A real shame. I find Suarez far more entertaining than Messi which I am not proud of.

Godge · 27-06-2014 02:37PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

People aren't trivialising it, it was a ****ing scummy idiotic thing to do, like spitting or stamping or loafing, the problem is FIFA as far as I can see has NEVER banned a player from all football for any of those offences, until now.

Nobody else has ever bitten three people on a pitch before, the third after his employers assured the world (Rodgers at the PFA dinner being one example) that the man had changed and there would be no repeat.

An unprecedented act gets an unprecedented punishment. Not a surprise.

smileyj1987 · 27-06-2014 02:52PM

4 matches

Godge wrote: »

Nobody else has ever bitten three people on a pitch before, the third after his employers assured the world (Rodgers at the PFA dinner being one example) that the man had changed and there would be no repeat.

An unprecedented act gets an unprecedented punishment. Not a surprise.

I think the ban is stupid and is opening up the biggest can of worms possible . FIFA should stick to international football . The leagues should be run the fa's of each country and FIFA shouldn't be allowed to meddle in them unless it's a case of massive corruption .
Let's say aguero or RVP lash out at a player on the field and throw that player a thump . The next game is against a big rival . What's to stop the club they are playing against going to FIFA and saying we want this ban to be passed on to the players domestic league .

gandalf · 27-06-2014 02:52PM

Over 10 matches

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

chellini is very foolish imo suarez hasnt even apologised to him. he also cheated trying to get chiellini sent off. no sympathy for poor luis enjoy your break....

I would suspect his motives are to stop abuse he is probably getting from fans of Luis and not his "outrage" at the punishment meted out to Suarez.

Ordinary man · 27-06-2014 02:52PM

I find it crazy that suarez didn't even try to issue some kind of apology after the game or even after getting banned. He doesn't seem to even have acknowledged that it was wrong to do that.

Tombo2001 · 27-06-2014 02:54PM

5 matches

TimeToShine wrote: »

Aside from the "poor old Suarez" part I Have to agree.

From an entertainment point of view this WC will suffer because of this. A real shame. I find Suarez far more entertaining than Messi which I am not proud of.

When I say 'Poor old Suarez', what I mean is that he obviously just cant help himself........he knows its wrong, he's been punished severely for it in the past, and yet he does it again........he cant help it.

Also, personally......maybe its just me......but I dont think what he did was all that bad.

Compared to say Nigel de Jong in the last world cup final, or Marchisio's potentially leg breaking tackle earlier in the tournament..... its neither here nor there......

Utopia Parkway · 27-06-2014 03:00PM

1 match

Ordinary man wrote: »

I find it crazy that suarez didn't even try to issue some kind of apology after the game or even after getting banned. He doesn't seem to even have acknowledged that it was wrong to do that.

Reading the article in the Guardian last night it seems Uruguayans view football through a different prism to most.

1. They will do anything to win. Winning is all that matters.
2. What happens on the field stays on the field.

When you have that collective mindset it's easy to see how they are not big on apologies for something that happens during a football game.

eyescreamcone · 27-06-2014 03:22PM

2 matches

Did any of Suarez's bite victims have to be substituted because of the bites?
Did any of them miss any further games through injury caused by the bite?
How many games did they miss?

Skylinehead · 27-06-2014 03:25PM

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Did any of Suarez's bite victims have to be substituted because of the bites?

No.

Did any of them miss any further games through injury caused by the bite?

No.

How many games did they miss?

0 probably.

What's your point?

bucketybuck · 27-06-2014 03:27PM

5 matches

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Did any of Suarez's bite victims have to be substituted because of the bites?
Did any of them miss any further games through injury caused by the bite?
How many games did they miss?

How is this even relevant?

Royal Irish · 27-06-2014 03:29PM

12 month global ban

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Did any of Suarez's bite victims have to be substituted because of the bites?
Did any of them miss any further games through injury caused by the bite?
How many games did they miss?

Spitting doesn't injure people either.

eyescreamcone · 27-06-2014 03:31PM

2 matches

bucketybuck wrote: »

How is this even relevant?

Obviously it's relevant to the seriousness of his crime.
Is it really that serious if nobody was hurt?

Compare it with Hunt stamping on Petr Cech's head and causing a fractured skull - now that had serious consequences and warranted a long ban

eyescreamcone · 27-06-2014 03:34PM

2 matches

Royal Irish wrote: »

Spitting doesn't injure people either.

I wouldn't agree with a long ban for spitting either.

niallo27 · 27-06-2014 03:34PM

1 match

Royal Irish wrote: »

Spitting doesn't injure people either.

I think the point he may be making is that people causing it a vicious assault and calling for jail time are slightly overplaying the incident.

wonga77 · 27-06-2014 03:38PM

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Obviously it's relevant to the seriousness of his crime.
Is it really that serious if nobody was hurt?

Compare it with Hunt stamping on Petr Cech's head and causing a fractured skull - now that had serious consequences and warranted a long ban

ara come on now, talk about exageration

Irlandczyk · 27-06-2014 03:39PM

10 matches

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Obviously it's relevant to the seriousness of his crime.
Is it really that serious if nobody was hurt?

Compare it with Hunt stamping on Petr Cech's head and causing a fractured skull - now that had serious consequences and warranted a long ban

You don't think a player that has bitten 3 different players on 3 different occasions and clearly hasn't learned anything from his previous punishments, a player who has also shown to be capable of racist abuse, is worthy of a long ban on the basis that he hasn't caused a serious injury? You don't think someone like that, going virtually unpunished or with lenient punishment, is capable of going further and inflicting greater injury the next time?

I don't understand people comparing this to other one-off incidents at all. If this was Suarez's first biting incident, I can see him getting nothing more than a slap on the wrist, one-match ban. As it is, his previous actions have been taken into account, and I personally think 9 matches and 4 months is adequate. If he does it again, I can see 2 years or more being given to him.

wonga77 wrote: »

ara come on now, talk about exageration

Makes it sound like Hunt danced on Cech's head for fun, doesn't it?

googled eyes · 27-06-2014 03:39PM

Apparently FIFPRO the player's union are getting involved as the world ban/ stadium and training ban infringes on Suarez' right to work.

Zico · 27-06-2014 03:40PM

1 match

niallo27 wrote: »

I think the point he may be making is that people causing it a vicious assault and calling for jail time are slightly overplaying the incident.

If you sexually assault someone on a football pitch does the same standard apply?

Not injured, no big deal, no crime committed?

Skylinehead · 27-06-2014 03:41PM

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Obviously it's relevant to the seriousness of his crime.
Is it really that serious if nobody was hurt?

This is obviously hyperbolic in relation to Suarez biting, but by that logic attempted, but failed, murder is ok? Nobody was hurt after all.

bangkok · 27-06-2014 03:42PM

7 matches

Royal Irish wrote: »

Spitting doesn't injure people either.

neither does missing a drug test and Ferdinand got an 8 month ban, including playing for England. Suarez got off lightly

niallo27 · 27-06-2014 03:42PM

1 match

Zico wrote: »

If you sexually assault someone on a football pitch does the same standard apply?

Not injured, no big deal, no crime committed?

Why in the name of Jesus would you mention sexual assault on the field. Are you comparing what Suarez did to a sexual assault and that Suarez victims would go through the same ordeal.

niallo27 · 27-06-2014 03:44PM

1 match

bangkok wrote: »

neither does missing a drug test and Ferdinand got an 8 month ban, including playing for England. Suarez got off lightly

Ferdinand could have been trying to gain an advantage by taking drugs. It had to be punished.

How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

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