Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

fatherted1969 · 27-06-2014 02:03PM

Brilliant news if Shaw is confirmed, just a question though for anyone that has seen a lot of him. When Spurs bought Bale i remember him starting out at full back, can anyone see anything in Shaw that suggests he may move out into a wing position in midfield.

Great credit due to Moyes on these deals as i'm convinced the bulk of them were in place in his tenure. Exciting times

EuropeanSon · 27-06-2014 02:04PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Are you arguing that your £20+m keeper was a bargain? Because he wasn't. He was a good signing, and an excellent player, but if you think that's what a bargain is you have no understanding of money.

thelad95 · 27-06-2014 02:04PM

merlinsmerryman · 27-06-2014 02:05PM

One of my most unproductive days ever in work. Sitting here in full view of everyone following this joy filled thread all day

:D My F5 key is starting to wear out.

TheTownie · 27-06-2014 02:05PM

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Craig Norwood ‏@CraigNorwood 1m
Luke Shaw admits he wanted the deal to be sorted before the World Cup, but more than happy to be a Manchester United player now.

Lord TSC · 27-06-2014 02:06PM

Cannot wait for the preseason tour now...

Mars Bar · 27-06-2014 02:06PM

These feelings I have...I don't understand them!

Montroseee · 27-06-2014 02:06PM

Is Shaw the most expensive left back ever now? Pretty sure Real paid less for Coentrao

Mars Bar · 27-06-2014 02:07PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Cannot wait for the preseason tour now...

Really hope i can make the galaxy game now!

Mars Bar · 27-06-2014 02:08PM

So we've signed paddy Jackson and Ryan gosling look a likes

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 02:08PM

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Are you arguing that your £20+m keeper was a bargain? Because he wasn't. He was a good signing, and an excellent player, but if you think that's what a bargain is you have no understanding of money.

DeGea was an absolute bargain in a world where David Luiz is worth 50million - he will be between those posts for years to come and he just keeps getting better and better... Also he's our main man for signing Spanish players

EuropeanSon · 27-06-2014 02:08PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Valid opinion and no one will know until his career is over whether or not the move works but my opinion is i'd rather spend 30 million on a left back with huge potential and under 20 than buy a short term fix of a 27-28 year old left back at 15-20 million .

You're overestimating the cost of a good left back there by a large margin.

£15-20m would probably get you a guaranteed top class left back.

The_Kew_Tour · 27-06-2014 02:09PM

A ****ing great day!!!!!!

Wait till number 3 is announced now baby!!!!

Adamocovic · 27-06-2014 02:09PM

Whether or not it is a good deal is all based on opinions. Personally considering before Southampton were asking Chelsea and Man United for 40-45 million I think it was a decent deal.

27 million (optional 3 depending on success) for a 4 year contract with the option of another year seems like good business. He has been one of the standout left backs of the last year and at a young age has huge potential.

Yes it's risky basing off potential but if you didn't take these risks you wouldn't have many standout players. Hopefully he goes on to have a great career with United and show the deal was good.

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 02:09PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

A ****ing great day!!!!!!

Wait till number 3 is announced now baby!!!!

C'mon Kew who will it be?

EuropeanSon · 27-06-2014 02:10PM

irishfeen wrote: »

DeGea was an absolute bargain - he will be between those posts for years to come and he just keeps getting better and better... Also he's our man man for signing Spanish players

Again, you don't seem to understand the English word "bargain". It doesn't mean "excellent footballer". De Gea is the second, but not the first.

Kylo Ren · 27-06-2014 02:10PM

Billy86 · 27-06-2014 02:10PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Brilliant news if Shaw is confirmed, just a question though for anyone that has seen a lot of him. When Spurs bought Bale i remember him starting out at full back, can anyone see anything in Shaw that suggests he may move out into a wing position in midfield.

Great credit due to Moyes on these deals as i'm convinced the bulk of them were in place in his tenure. Exciting times

Why do people keep making this assumption? Am I missing something on this? Moyes was so dead set on Leighton Baines and nothing but Leighton Baines that when given the option of Coentrao or nothing (when Everton said they would not sell him, or set €50mn as the price or something to that effect)...he basically chose nothing, blindly chasing Baines to the death while Madrid were trying to throw Coentrao at us. And Baines wasn't/isn't even a top tier FB.

A lot of talk is that he was the guy who pulled the plug on Herrera last season, too.

I just don't see why a good few people are assuming this?

The_Kew_Tour · 27-06-2014 02:11PM

irishfeen wrote: »

C'mon Kew who will it be?

dont care..

it will be good though.

Ed is the man, the legend, the king.

bangkok · 27-06-2014 02:11PM

de Gea

Jones---Hummels----Evans

Rafael

Shaw

Pogba

Herrera

Mata................................

RVP

Rooney

drooooooooooooooollllllllllllll

Pighead · 27-06-2014 02:12PM

Team shaping up nicely for next season. This was always gonna be a big spending summer and it's nice to see a couple of signings confirmed. Another midfielder is a must you would think. Maybe one midfielder and one central defender incoming to take the spending over the €100m mark.

Adamocovic · 27-06-2014 02:15PM

EuropeanSon wrote: »

You're overestimating the cost of a good left back there by a large margin.

£15-20m would probably get you a guaranteed top class left back.

I wouldn't be too sure these days, we've seen in the last while prices rising a lot. Considering some defenders have gone for a lot more, Luiz and Silva 40-50 million for example.

Also remember Man City bought Lescott for 28 million back in 2009, Coentrao and Pepe went for the 30-35 million mark too and don't forget Alves was 35-40 million too.

And we bought Ferdinand for similar money of near 30 million and at the time people questioned that.

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 02:17PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

dont care..

it will be good though.

Ed is the man, the legend, the king.

Haha some of yous doubted ED ... even in my hardest Moyes supporting times I always knew he would come good

yermandan · 27-06-2014 02:17PM

GIF - CENTRAL.

They have made my day, particularly the Brad Pitt one

glued · 27-06-2014 02:19PM

Another central midfielder, a centre half and a winger are surely still to come.

ElChe32 · 27-06-2014 02:20PM

To Ed!

Billy86 · 27-06-2014 02:20PM

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Are you arguing that your £20+m keeper was a bargain? Because he wasn't. He was a good signing, and an excellent player, but if you think that's what a bargain is you have no understanding of money.

He absolutely was, set us up to have one of the best keepers in the world for the next 15 plus years. If you track average fees, 30mn today translates to about 10mn in 2002, just after Juve spent €51mn(!) on Buffon. You will not find a Juve fan in the world who is unhappy with the value for money they got in that transfer. That is way, way, way more than we paid for DDG in relative terms.

If you buy a 27 year old fullback for 15mn today, you need to replace him in five years. With the ever inflating prices, a top end FB at that stage will likely cost over 20mn, and again in five more years for closer to 25-30mn. The total cost there comes to 60mn+ to cover you for the same 15 years Shaw will if he is as good as we think he is (and likewise you are taking a risk of all three of those guys) And that is why we pay our scouts top dollar, and put faith in them accordingly.

Long term, high end stability is almost impossible to put a price on in the modern game. If you think 50mn for 15 years of top, top end play at LB & GK is not good value then you really have a poor understanding of the market.

adox · 27-06-2014 02:21PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Cannot wait for the preseason tour now...

You got signed as well?:eek:

Lucas Hood · 27-06-2014 02:23PM

newballsplease · 27-06-2014 02:23PM

glued wrote: »

Another central midfielder, a centre half and a winger are surely still to come.

A center half tes, but i wouldnt be so sure that we'l sign a winger.

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