Ebola Virus "beyond our control" in West Africa

cerastes · 24-06-2014 09:53PM

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

The Ebola virus is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person

The only reason it's spreading so quickly in West Africa is because of poor sanitation. You literally have to come into contact with someones blood or sh*t to catch it.

It wouldn't stand a chance in developed countries, the incubation period is too short.

Now shtap scaremongering.

Am I the only one that imagines there are some sick depraved people out there? or am I sick and depraved for thinking what scenario might occur here?
I like to think that Im abe to see some possible scenarios that others just cant conceive, you just cant rule anything out.

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-06-2014 10:13PM

We are an island we will be safe

maurv1 · 24-06-2014 10:16PM

25-06-2014 10:16AM

Suspected case of Ebola in Spain now.
jaze, all the flights in and out...

The Ministry of Health activated in the early hours of Monday, preventively, the action protocol in suspected Ebola virus. It is a patient whose clinical picture could correspond to the disease, although not yet confirmed or ruled out. It is a patient of Guinean nationality who arrived Monday in Valencia by plane and whose clinical picture corresponds to the disease, although not yet confirmed or ruled, as reported by the Department of Health, which is awaiting the results tests, which have been sent to school analyze Carlos III of Madrid.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20140625-44269-ESP

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 25-06-2014 10:20AM

I'm going to Spain in July. I'll be sure to bring back buckets of friendly Ebola for all.

25-06-2014 10:24AM

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

I'm going to Spain in July. I'll be sure to bring back buckets of friendly Ebola for all.

yummy all that Ebola soup in the swimming pools, all the grazes on peoples skin.

:eek:

Azwaldo55 · 25-06-2014 10:52AM

A few nuclear bombs dropped on Spain should sort it all out.

Eileen Down · 25-06-2014 11:11AM

Oh madre de Díos, I eat ebola of cornflakes for my break the fast, I die now!

GalwayGuy2 · 25-06-2014 11:48AM

Originally Posted by The One Who Knocks View Post
The Ebola virus is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person

The only reason it's spreading so quickly in West Africa is because of poor sanitation. You literally have to come into contact with someones blood or sh*t to catch it.

It wouldn't stand a chance in developed countries, the incubation period is too short.

Now shtap scaremongering.

So, it's like a particularly virulent aids?

old hippy · 25-06-2014 11:56AM

Can we nuke this thread please? It's making my skin crawl...

25-06-2014 01:02PM

What the hell is taking the Spanish so long to confirm or deny. They should have those test results by now

http://www.thespainreport.com/9248/ebola-valencia/

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 25-06-2014 01:08PM

Their already feasting on each other's juicy brains. Ebola has evolved into a a killer zombie strain. Quick, to the survival thread.

The_B_Man · 25-06-2014 01:34PM

I'm also goin to Spain in a few weeks.

I must crack open Resident Evil 4 and play through it a few times for practice before I go.

seamus · 25-06-2014 01:57PM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

If the virus leads to infections in the thousands or the hundreds of thousands the use of nuclear weapons should not be ruled out.

Ebola doesn't turn people into Zombies. They're not going to be rushing the borders in their hundreds and thousands and/or attacking soldiers with their teeth.

Containment and quarantine in this case is pretty easy. You'd probably also be surprised how quickly some treatments come out of the woodwork, if not actual cures, if ebola begins to spread in western countries. We'll at least see treatments which will inhibit the progress of the virus in sufferers and/or provide some level of vaccination in non-infected.

Because ebola exists in pockets of sub-saharan Africa, and outbreaks thus far have been relatively small, there's very little research budget there for it. If this begins to look like it's getting out of control, the big pharmaceutical companies will start pumping cash into it because there's then profit to be made.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 25-06-2014 02:26PM

Booooo we want zombies.

How Soon Is Now · 25-06-2014 02:52PM

What always streaks me as funny is how ignorant people in general are to serious situations. Look at what happened in Japan with the Fukushima plant disaster. When it first happened everyone was crying false tears for the people of Japan and talking the usual bollox they do when something bad happens.

But does any of the joe soap public give a balls about the fact the radiation issue could and possibly is affecting the whole world ? Nope.

This is the very same ''Ah sure its only them Africans who get it we be grand our health service is great sure......''

People tend to only start thinking about things seriously when its to late.

Sure id imagine most of Ireland aint even aware this is going on yet the same people could more then likely tell you whats gonna happen in Fair City next week ha.

The media doesnt help i guess put it this way if this ever spreads to one of the ''important'' parts of the world then we will all be told plenty about it.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 25-06-2014 03:26PM

Think we're all a bit skeptical as media reporting of anything science related is sensationalised and so far removed from the reality that they might as well not bother reporting it at all.

JONJO THE MISER · 25-06-2014 03:38PM

Time for a ebola ice cream.

How Soon Is Now · 25-06-2014 03:40PM

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Think we're all a bit skeptical as media reporting of anything science related is sensationalised and so far removed from the reality that they might as well not bother reporting it at all.

A lot of the time its worst case scenario.
Again though if the actual big media outlets followed real news half the time maybe people would look into it more.

Sulla Felix · 25-06-2014 03:43PM

Ah, it's no Spanish flu. We'll be grand.

bb1234567 · 25-06-2014 03:51PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

What always streaks me as funny is how ignorant people in general are to serious situations. Look at what happened in Japan with the Fukushima plant disaster. When it first happened everyone was crying false tears for the people of Japan and talking the usual bollox they do when something bad happens.

But does any of the joe soap public give a balls about the fact the radiation issue could and possibly is affecting the whole world ? Nope.

This is the very same ''Ah sure its only them Africans who get it we be grand our health service is great sure......''

People tend to only start thinking about things seriously when its to late.

Sure id imagine most of Ireland aint even aware this is going on yet the same people could more then likely tell you whats gonna happen in Fair City next week ha.

The media doesnt help i guess put it this way if this ever spreads to one of the ''important'' parts of the world then we will all be told plenty about it.

It does sound serious, I only heard about this ebola virus outbreak when this thread started and I checked some news websites online, british irish and american sites. Not as much as a word about it on any of them

Maximus Alexander · 25-06-2014 03:51PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Madagascar would be safe.

VinLieger wrote: »

Bastards are impossible to get to

Don't forget about those 56,000 feckers in Greenland. :mad:

How Soon Is Now · 25-06-2014 03:54PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

It does sound serious, I only heard about this ebola virus outbreak when this thread started and I checked some news websites online, british irish and american sites. Not as much as a word about it on any of them

Yet if Kim Kardashian goes and buys a pint of milk today we will all know about it :pac:. Thats the world we live in right there.

Paddy Cow · 25-06-2014 04:17PM

KungPao wrote: »

Or just nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure the virus is gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

The One Who Knocks · 25-06-2014 04:43PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

But does any of the joe soap public give a balls about the fact the radiation issue could and possibly is affecting the whole world?

Nope, currently isn't & not possible. Have a read here

By rough comparison, Sellafield has done 60 times the damage to the Irish Sea than Fukushima has to the Pacific, and even then it's still completely safe as the dosage of natural radiation is far higher than man radiation from the sea.

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

This is the very same ''Ah sure its only them Africans who get it we be grand our health service is great sure......''

People tend to only start thinking about things seriously when its to late

It's not a concern for developed countries, not now & not ever unless it mutates.

It's being spread in West Africa primarily through the embalming of infected dead people and also through contact with contaminated medical equipment such as needles which are shared. You can't get it just by being in the same room as someone. Besides, the sanitation standards are much better over here and we have protocols to deal with this sort of thing should it ever occur.

Another reason ebola is not a concern is because the reservoir host does not exist outside the continent of Africa. Other than that the incubation period is too short to do much damage, it's too lethal.

This is not the first outbreak either. There have been 27 previously, 6 of which have occurred outside Africa with a total death toll of 0.

I could understand your concern if ebola was airborne or something, but it's just not dangerous over here in it's current state,.. the likes of swine flu was much worse.

Even if it did somehow become a concern, a cure would be found quickly when money is pumped into it. The reason progress is slow now is because the virus is limited to Africa and has only killed roughly 2000 in the past 30 years which is a small number when compared to the flu which kills tens of thousands annually.

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Sure id imagine most of Ireland aint even aware this is going on yet the same people could more then likely tell you whats gonna happen in Fair City next week ha.

The media doesnt help i guess put it this way if this ever spreads to one of the ''important'' parts of the world then we will all be told plenty about it.

I can see where you're coming from here, but at the same time there's no need for sensationalist headlines either. To put it bluntly, people care about matters affecting themselves. There's a pertussis epidemic in California too, but that doesn't exactly concern us.

I don't mean to come across as harsh either. It's terrible what's happening in Guinea but I'm just sick of this scaremongering I guess.

How Soon Is Now · 25-06-2014 05:01PM

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Nope, currently isn't & not possible. Have a read here

By rough comparison, Sellafield has done 60 times the damage to the Irish Sea than Fukushima has to the Pacific, and even then it's still completely safe as the dosage of natural radiation is far higher than man radiation from the sea.

It's not a concern for developed countries, not now & not ever unless it mutates.

It's being spread in West Africa primarily through the embalming of infected dead people and also through contact with contaminated medical equipment such as needles which are shared. You can't get it just by being in the same room as someone. Besides, the sanitation standards are much better over here and we have protocols to deal with this sort of thing should it ever occur.

Another reason ebola is not a concern is because the reservoir host does not exist outside the continent of Africa. Other than that the incubation period is too short to do much damage, it's too lethal.

This is not the first outbreak either. There have been 27 previously, 6 of which have occurred outside Africa with a total death toll of 0.

I could understand your concern if ebola was airborne or something, but it's just not dangerous over here in it's current state,.. the likes of swine flu was much worse.

Even if it did somehow become a concern, a cure would be found quickly when money is pumped into it. The reason progress is slow now is because the virus is limited to Africa and has only killed roughly 2000 in the past 30 years which is a small number when compared to the flu which kills tens of thousands annually.

I can see where you're coming from here, but at the same time there's no need for sensationalist headlines either. To put it bluntly, people care about matters affecting themselves. There's a pertussis epidemic in California too, but that doesn't exactly concern us.

I don't mean to come across as harsh either. It's terrible what's happening in Guinea but I'm just sick of this scaremongering I guess.

Ah no in fairness I know what you mean but at the same time if u speak out about most of these things to most people your seen as a conspiracy theory nut.

It's something which should be told by the media people should know what's going on in the world that's what news is meant to be there for.

I look at that virus and think right at this moment in time it's limited to certain areas and region s and a better medical service would deal with it differently but at the same time who's to know what could happen if it ended up in Europe for example.

The whole thing in Japan has been covered up and swept under the rug by all kinds of government and media and again it's something that should be treated with more respect.

Calibos · 25-06-2014 05:19PM

My reaction to the Fukishima aftermath was even less concern about Nuclear than before. A badly designed first generation Nuclear Power Plant goes through one of the most powerful Earthquakes in History and then minutes later one of the largest Tsunami's in recorded history and explodes and the radiation levels that the cleanup crews are exposed to in the area are still less than an airline pilot receives. Fcukin' A Nuclear Power Scientist type Dudes!!

Of the 100,000 evacuated from the Fukishima area, 0 have suffered ill effects from radiation but 1000 have died from stress and dislocation related ailments and suicides directly attributable to the evacuation. Rice grown in the area has radiation levels way lower than the allowable levels in foodstuffs that apply everywhere. Ironically one would get a higher radiation dose having eaten rice grown in a paddy field downwind of a Coal fueled power plant in in Asia somewhere after avoiding Fukishima marked Rice in an effort to avoid a higher dose.

This is all before one even talks about the fact that current safe radiation dose limits are supposedly ridiculously conservative

Arthur Beesley · 25-06-2014 05:21PM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.

A series of well placed nukes would probably help stop the spread.

Canis Lupus · 25-06-2014 05:35PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I look at that virus and think right at this moment in time it's limited to certain areas and region s and a better medical service would deal with it differently but at the same time who's to know what could happen if it ended up in Europe for example.
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TBH you can't compare the two geographical areas. You're talking about Africa, an area of the world where even the president of a country there thinks AIDS can be avoided by having a shower after sex. From access to healthcare, quality of healthcare right down to education and all other aspects, if Ebola genuinely did make it's way to Europe it would be over before it even started.

Duckworth_Luas · 25-06-2014 06:02PM

I'm almost certain that Luis Suarez is spreading the Ebola virus

Ebola Virus "beyond our control" in West Africa

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