Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

NEDDURC · 25-06-2014 09:45AM

BenThere wrote: »

FIFA are a self promoting and self preserving entity. Suarez is one of the worlds greatest footballers. FIFA will want to be seen to do the right thing but if they behave like they have in the past they will come up with some sort of meaningless fudge e.g. hold an enquiry tomorrow which issues a ban for 6 months from international football but give him 14 days to appeal (which allows him to play up to and including the WC Quarter Finals if Uruguay get there. If Suarez lodges his appeal on the 14th day (July 10th) they will then have to convene an appeal hearing and allow him to put his case all of which will take proceedings past the WC final on July 13th. Assuming his appeal is rejected he will then start a relatively meaningless 6 month ban form international football which will see him back playing for Uruguay in the middle oj January.

I'm not saying this is the correct way to handle things but I doubt FIFA will do anything to harm the career of one of their stars. Imagine the TV audience for Uruguay's remaining matches if he's allowed to play???

Ben

RTE website says this morning that FIFA are giving Suarez and Uruguay until 9pm this evening to outline their position.

The way I see it now he has only one option. Come out with a grovelling statement about how sorry he is and that it was just in the heat of the action and maybe how he's been working on this.

If the apology is sufficiently humble, FIFA will keep the ban down and only to international matches.

However, I think Liverpool may need to take action too and ban him for a number of games for this.

I see Suarez being unhappy with this treatment which may leave time for him to move abroad before the end of the transfer window when he's out of the team.

Sappy404 · 25-06-2014 09:45AM

I wouldn't be surprised if FIFA just gave him the standard violent conduct ban and made no further comment on it. It would send him home from the World Cup, which satisfies all parties in the short-term, and it would also remove themselves from the burden of having to decide conclusively if it was a bite, as a lengthy appeal from Uruguay (on the basis that there's no definitive, conclusive picture) would be a possibility if a longer ban was meted.

8 games is the longest World Cup ban, and that was for an elbow off the ball that broke someone's nose. You can debate about how a bite is just as much of an act of violence, or that it's relatively harmless given nobody was in danger. I'm not sure which side I come down on. I just think it's incredibly strange that he seems to have this compulsion to bite people.

Vicxas · 25-06-2014 09:46AM

FIFA Charge Suarez

Would the 24 month ban include Domestic & Champions League or just games for Uruguay?

Knex* · 25-06-2014 09:50AM

If Uruguay and Suarez even remotely try and defend this, they're idiots.

Genuinely hope they do the only right thing that they can do in this situation, and apologies for the whole lot and accept what's coming to them.

Agueroooo · 25-06-2014 09:50AM

Vicxas wrote: »

FIFA Charge Suarez

Would the 24 month ban include Domestic & Champions League or just games for Uruguay?

a couple of points...

It wont be 2yrs.

Its highly unlikely it would involve a domestic ban, but a precedent could be set here.

I am guessing he will get kicked out of the World Cup and his ban will include the Copa America next summer which Uruguay are defending.

Hangballlouie · 25-06-2014 09:51AM

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/06/suarez-bites-man-think-words-write/

This is exactly how I feel on Suarez and the incident last night. Neil from the Anfield Wrap nailing it here.

Dickerty · 25-06-2014 09:51AM

Vicxas wrote: »

FIFA Charge Suarez

Would the 24 month ban include Domestic & Champions League or just games for Uruguay?

Don't be silly, they would never ban him for that long, even for only International games. They are over ALL of football, how could they?

I suspect a ban of about 15 competitive games for all competitions. So here's hoping Uruguay make the final, and maybe our summer tournament in the US can count??

Sappy404 · 25-06-2014 09:52AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

RTE website says this morning that FIFA are giving Suarez and Uruguay until 9pm this evening to outline their position.

The way I see it now he has only one option. Come out with a grovelling statement about how sorry he is and that it was just in the heat of the action and maybe how he's been working on this.

If the apology is sufficiently humble, FIFA will keep the ban down and only to international matches.

However, I think Liverpool may need to take action too and ban him for a number of games for this.

I see Suarez being unhappy with this treatment which may leave time for him to move abroad before the end of the transfer window when he's out of the team.

"I bit someone while representing my country in a World Cup, but I'm unhappy with how FIFA have treated me, so I want to leave Liverpool."

Nope. Not seeing it.

witnessmenow · 25-06-2014 09:53AM

Vicxas wrote: »

FIFA Charge Suarez

FIFA can confirm that disciplinary proceedings have been opened against the player Luis Suarez of Uruguay

:mad:

Proceedings have been opened does not equal charged!

mike65 · 25-06-2014 09:55AM

Has anyone given a thought to the family of Suarez, the man has reduced his nations chances by about 50% I'd say, they must wish the ground could open up instead of having 3.5 million people pointing their fingers at him. Not to mention what his wife and daughter must be thinking "why does daddy bit people" is not the sort of question that's easily explained to an adult never mind a 4 year old.

Chucky the tree · 25-06-2014 09:59AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

"I bit someone while representing my country in a World Cup, but I'm unhappy with how FIFA have treated me, so I want to leave Liverpool."

Nope. Not seeing it.

I think he means unhappy with the treatment if Liverpool decided to ban him themselves.

rok · 25-06-2014 10:00AM

Is there only 1 camera angle of the "alleged bite"?

Seems strange that there are so many cameras and for penalty decisions you see multiple views/angles from different cameras

Knex* · 25-06-2014 10:00AM

hangballlouie wrote: »

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/06/suarez-bites-man-think-words-write/

This is exactly how I feel on Suarez and the incident last night. Neil from the Anfield Wrap nailing it here.

Yeah, good article. Think a lot of what has been said on here is covered in it too.

Devilman40k · 25-06-2014 10:02AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

I see Suarez being unhappy with this treatment which may leave time for him to move abroad before the end of the transfer window when he's out of the team.

He is going to get that same treatment from the media no matter where he plays now, in fact the only country where he wont be treated like that is Uruguay. He didn't do this on the domestic stage and this is where his problem is now. He did it at the biggest stage in any footballers career.

So he can expect this treatment everywhere. Say he signs for Barca, then the Madrid press will play up to it and vice-versa.

Not to mention anything that happens in European competition ...say whoever he plays for get Juve (or any Italian team) in CL the Italian press will have a field day. He better get used to it

Turtyturd · 25-06-2014 10:04AM

hangballlouie wrote: »

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/06/suarez-bites-man-think-words-write/

This is exactly how I feel on Suarez and the incident last night. Neil from the Anfield Wrap nailing it here.

'I guess if you cry wolf enough times one will finally turn up and bite you.'

NEDDURC · 25-06-2014 10:04AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

"I bit someone while representing my country in a World Cup, but I'm unhappy with how FIFA have treated me, so I want to leave Liverpool."

Nope. Not seeing it.

I didn't say that. I said that Liverpool will be under pressure to implement some sort of disciplinary action and that Suarez will start to feel that the English media are against him.

This has already started as Uruguay papers are saying english media are out to get him.

As many people are saying there is a good chance that FIFA will bottle this abit and give a fairly meaningless ban. I think then Liverpool will need to take a stance to show that they are not happy with Suarez. This could lead to him being unhappy and leaving. We all know that he'd love to go to Barca so any excuse would suit him I think.

Vicxas · 25-06-2014 10:04AM

witnessmenow wrote: »

:mad:

Proceedings have been opened does not equal charged!

Well consider me notified then...

Grayditch · 25-06-2014 10:07AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

How embarrassing for Liverpool fans to even try to defend this.

The Pontiac wrote: »

You'll never walk alone Louis Suarez! lol by this thread.

And it was a club that I actually respected.

I love that we're constantly being "reviewed" as a group by other fans, in this thread. It's gas. It's a classic sign of people with low intelligence, to speak to, or about a large section of people based on the opinions of some, despite them being shown both sides of the fence on here within a few pages.

There was been a handful of people defending it, which actually increased with the reactions from other fans. That's kinda natural in a way, but Jesus, this thread is a struggle to read, sometimes.

Devilman40k · 25-06-2014 10:07AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

I didn't say that. I said that Liverpool will be under pressure to implement some sort of disciplinary action and that Suarez will start to feel that the English media are against him.

This has already started as Uruguay papers are saying english media are out to get him.

As many people are saying there is a good chance that FIFA will bottle this abit and give a fairly meaningless ban. I think then Liverpool will need to take a stance to show that they are not happy with Suarez. This could lead to him being unhappy and leaving. We all know that he'd love to go to Barca so any excuse would suit him I think.

If he gets a ban from international football why do Liverpool have to do anything?? Not up to the club to discipline him for a transgression which affects his international team.

Only time that Liverpool have to react is if any ban impacts on the club, i.e a ban from football at all levels

Agueroooo · 25-06-2014 10:09AM

mike65 wrote: »

Has anyone given a thought to the family of Suarez, the man has reduced his nations chances by about 50% I'd say, they must wish the ground could open up instead of having 3.5 million people pointing their fingers at him. Not to mention what his wife and daughter must be thinking "why does daddy bit people" is not the sort of question that's easily explained to an adult never mind a 4 year old.

I will tell you one thing, and if Suarezs previous statements are to be believed..his wife must be fúcking livid.

not only has he done it again but it looks like he could well have fecked up the dream move to her family in Barca.

PropJoe10 · 25-06-2014 10:12AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

I didn't say that. I said that Liverpool will be under pressure to implement some sort of disciplinary action and that Suarez will start to feel that the English media are against him.

This has already started as Uruguay papers are saying english media are out to get him.

As many people are saying there is a good chance that FIFA will bottle this abit and give a fairly meaningless ban. I think then Liverpool will need to take a stance to show that they are not happy with Suarez. This could lead to him being unhappy and leaving. We all know that he'd love to go to Barca so any excuse would suit him I think.

I cannot see a scenario where Liverpool will discipline him for something that happened in an international game. But I can certainly see a scenario where Brendan Rodgers realises that Suarez cannot be trusted on a football pitch, and flogs him. I am a Pool fan and he's a truly world class player that I'd love to be able to keep for the rest of his career, but he's got to go now, for the good of Liverpool FC. How long before he does something stupid again in a red shirt and gets a 2 year club ban? If that happens, he wont be worth anything.

Turtyturd · 25-06-2014 10:17AM

'Cannot be trusted.'

'Has to go for the good of Liverpool FC.'

'How long before he gets a 2 year ban.'

This stuff is hilarious.

Sappy404 · 25-06-2014 10:19AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

I didn't say that. I said that Liverpool will be under pressure to implement some sort of disciplinary action and that Suarez will start to feel that the English media are against him.

This has already started as Uruguay papers are saying english media are out to get him.

As many people are saying there is a good chance that FIFA will bottle this abit and give a fairly meaningless ban. I think then Liverpool will need to take a stance to show that they are not happy with Suarez. This could lead to him being unhappy and leaving. We all know that he'd love to go to Barca so any excuse would suit him I think.

Fair enough. I doubt Liverpool will take any disciplinary action though. He was representing his country and he'll be punished by the relevant authorities. They might suspend his wages if the ban covers domestic football - which I would say is very unlikely - but that's it.

Agueroooo · 25-06-2014 10:19AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

'Cannot be trusted.'

'Has to go for the good of Liverpool FC.'

'How long before he gets a 2 year ban.'

This stuff is hilarious.

I am loving the ones about John W and how he and the FSG boys must 'get rid of him'

rob316 · 25-06-2014 10:20AM

I cant believe that so many posters are ignorant to the damage this does to Liverpool Football Club...again!

I'm tired of this individual disrespecting this club. Kenny backed him to the last and he got the bullet, Rodgers has done the same. How long will Rodgers put up with been made a fool of by Suarez? How long will LFC put up with it?

He cant be trusted, what good is it building a team around a player who could miss 10 games a season through suspension.

Everyone always preaches no one player is bigger than the club. This has certainly become the case with Luis Suarez.

K-9 · 25-06-2014 10:25AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

'Cannot be trusted.'

'Has to go for the good of Liverpool FC.'

'How long before he gets a 2 year ban.'

This stuff is hilarious.

Its a very valid opinion to have. This is the second time he has done this as a Liverpool player, albeit playing for Uruguay yesterday. I'm sure the club wont be seeing much hilarity in all this today, and there is only one person to blame for that.

Knex* · 25-06-2014 10:26AM

Liverpool couldn't sell Suarez to another Club in good faith, knowing that he's pretty much Hitler reincarnated. A Club of such strong morals, evidently recognised by all fans, could never do such a thing.

In order to prevent Suarez from tarnishing the good jersey of other Clubs, pillars of the community and moralistic strongholds, such as United, Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG, and Barcelona, we will have to embrace martyrdom and keep Suarez as our own.

Further sacrifice the good name and jersey of Liverpool Football Club, in order to prevent this malevolent man from ever doing the same to another Club.

This is the cross we shall bear. I harbour small hope that our valiant and selfless actions are appreciated in time.

PropJoe10 · 25-06-2014 10:26AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

'Cannot be trusted.'

'Has to go for the good of Liverpool FC.'

'How long before he gets a 2 year ban.'

This stuff is hilarious.

Just out of interest, what part of these opinions do you find so funny?

NEDDURC · 25-06-2014 10:27AM

PropJoe10 wrote: »

I cannot see a scenario where Liverpool will discipline him for something that happened in an international game. But I can certainly see a scenario where Brendan Rodgers realises that Suarez cannot be trusted on a football pitch, and flogs him. I am a Pool fan and he's a truly world class player that I'd love to be able to keep for the rest of his career, but he's got to go now, for the good of Liverpool FC. How long before he does something stupid again in a red shirt and gets a 2 year club ban? If that happens, he wont be worth anything.

If you remember after the Evra issues. Daglish stuck by Suarez strongly only for the club to come out of it looking abit silly.

After the Ivanovic bite there was a completely different response. Rodgers siad that nobody is above the club and Liverpool strongly critised his actions at a time when it looked like we might be pushing him out of the club. The opposite was the case. Suarez took his medicince and came back determined and focused.

I'm not saying I know for certain what will happen but I think the club definitely have an issue here. I think they will probably keep the head down for a day or two to see what way this plays out and what FIFA decide to do. But personally I would let it be know that they too think it's unacceptable and that disciplinary action will be taken (could just be a fine and some sort of therapy!)

PropJoe10 · 25-06-2014 10:30AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

If you remember after the Evra issues. Daglish stuck by Suarez strongly only for the club to come out of it looking abit silly.

After the Ivanovic bite there was a completely different response. Rodgers siad that nobody is above the club and Liverpool strongly critised his actions at a time when it looked like we might be pushing him out of the club. The opposite was the case. Suarez took his medicince and came back determined and focused.

I'm not saying I know for certain what will happen but I think the club definitely have an issue here. I think they will probably keep the head down for a day or two to see what way this plays out and what FIFA decide to do. But personally I would let it be know that they too think it's unacceptable and that disciplinary action will be taken (could just be a fine and some sort of therapy!)

Possibly, but the difference here is that he's done this in an international game so they'd find it hard to be able to justify fining him, I'd say. But he clearly needs therapy. He's a raving lunatic!

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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