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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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  • #1892
    Crimson King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    shadowcomplex wrote: »
    Sign William Calvalho now too and our central midfield is sorted, we can go for Strootman too in january or next summer as Louis does like 3 in the centre at times

    Not going to happen until Portugal are dumped from the WC. It's why the Herrera deal was under the radar and fast imo.


  • #1893
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    who the hell has a mate called joby?


  • #1894
    irishfeen
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    £28.8m according to Ducker from the times.


  • #1895
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    irishfeen wrote: »
    £28.8m according to Ducker from the times.

    He'll fit in at number four so.

    £37.1m: Juan Mata (from Chelsea) 2014

    £30.75m: Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham) 2008

    £29.1m: Rio Ferdinand (Leeds) 2002

    Ander Herrera

    £27.5m: Marouane Fellaini (Everton) 2013

    £27m: Wayne Rooney (Everton) 2004


  • #1896
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    shadowcomplex wrote: »
    Sign William Calvalho now too and our central midfield is sorted, we can go for Strootman too in january or next summer as Louis does like 3 in the centre at times

    Would be fantastic. Although I think it's more likely to be one or other (Strootman in January).


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  • #1897
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    Leftist wrote: »
    who the hell has a mate called joby?

    Billy Connolly ;)


  • #1898
    beno619
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Why would Young leave United when he is picking up over 100k a week here? Nobdy else is going to pay him that, he'll probably run down his contract and move for free.

    While it's nice to assume every footballer is a mercenary some do actually enjoy the profession and would rather play.


  • #1899
    ShaneU
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,081 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Dearer than Fabregas, mind boggling.


  • #1900
    beno619
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Why would Young leave United when he is picking up over 100k a week here? Nobdy else is going to pay him that, he'll probably run down his contract and move for free.

    While it's nice to assume every footballer is a mercenary some do actually enjoy the profession and would rather play.


  • #1901
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    He'll fit in at number four so.

    £37.1m: Juan Mata (from Chelsea) 2014

    £30.75m: Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham) 2008

    £29.1m: Rio Ferdinand (Leeds) 2002

    Ander Herrera

    £27.5m: Marouane Fellaini (Everton) 2013

    £27m: Wayne Rooney (Everton) 2004
    Just talking to a Spanish mate about Herrera and he just started laughing when I said he would be our 4th most expensive signing ... For such a successful club it really is amazing.


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  • #1902
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    beno619 wrote: »
    While it's nice to assume every footballer is a mercenary some do actually enjoy the profession and would rather play.

    Being a mercenary is making a club honour the contract they offered you? Who knew.


  • #1903
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    beno619 wrote: »
    While it's nice to assume every footballer is a mercenary some do actually enjoy the profession and would rather play.

    You shouldn't be so naive. If Young were to move, I can't see anyone paying him more than 25k per week. That's a hell of a pay cut.


  • #1904
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    ShaneU wrote: »
    Dearer than Fabregas, mind boggling.
    I wouldn't be surprised if United didn't bother even bidding for cesc, seems as if him fcuking us about last summer ended any potential move.


  • #1905
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    ShaneU wrote: »
    Dearer than Fabregas, mind boggling.

    You do know the difference between a club trying to offload a player and a club selling a player they want to keep don't you? One will be more expensive that the other. And LVG obviously didn't want Fabregas.


  • #1906
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    ShaneU wrote: »
    Dearer than Fabregas, mind boggling.

    A quick scan and I think he's cheaper; Fab seemed to be 30m, and Herrera looks to be about 28.5m (in Pounds Sterling).

    Also, that's the difference when deal with a player a club wants shot of and a player who the club would be happy to keep on....


  • #1907
    ericzeking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    irishfeen wrote: »
    £28.8m according to Ducker from the times.

    Did any of them lads, as in Ducker, Taylor, Ogden etc....have this story yesterday?


  • #1908
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    ericzeking wrote: »
    Did any of them lads, as in Ducker, Taylor, Ogden etc....have this story yesterday?

    A lot seem to be claiming "Oh, we're in Brazil so missed some stuff". :p


  • #1909
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    TheDoc wrote: »
    If we are going to spunk £30+m on a 18 year old LB with one year exposure to the premier league, I'd have no hesitation spending £28m on a midfielder with extensive La Liga experience and European experience, and at an age where his ability is somewhat more defined and a safe bet.

    If those two signing do happen that will be the guts of £120 million spent on 4 players in 12 months - Fellaini, Mata, Herrera and Shaw.

    Thats a big outlay and makes you wonder what could have been bought for that sort of money.


  • #1910
    Crimson King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Just talking to a Spanish mate about Herrera and he just started laughing when I said he would be our 4th most expensive signing ... For such a successful club it really is amazing.

    I expect that to change this summer to be honest, I hope he is the first of at least 3 > £25M signings.


  • #1911
    markcahill1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭markcahill1985


    ericzeking wrote: »
    Did any of them lads, as in Ducker, Taylor, Ogden etc....have this story yesterday?

    No which is great IMO, Ogden even said on twitter last night that Utd said this deal was dead and he would be very suprised if rumours were true. maybe Ed has been silenced at last the clown :p


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  • #1912
    keane2097
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    Leftist wrote: »
    who the hell has a mate called joby?

    Everyone bar you, no mates.

    j/k


  • #1913
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Leftist wrote: »
    who the hell has a mate called joby?

    Sure John Joby Mikel played for Chelsea


  • #1914
    bullvine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    It just shows you that none of them have a clue and are just making it up on the spot.


  • #1915
    Flashdean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Flashdean


    I dont know why ppl are knocking this transfer so soon. We have the a great scouting system and the club has been after this geeza for 3 years.. Tru 3 different managers ...

    I watched him a lot last season due to him being so heavily linked and he was top notch...
    The game against barca he was the best player on th pitch..


    Please give him time .. These are exciting times ahead!!:)


  • #1916
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    whoever said Herrera wouldn't walk onto the united team I bet has never seen him play before. Super signing really looking forward to seeing him in a united shirt next season


  • #1917
    TheDoc
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    adox wrote: »
    If those two signing do happen that will be the guts of £120 million spent on 4 players in 12 months - Fellaini, Mata, Herrera and Shaw.

    Thats a big outlay and makes you wonder what could have been bought for that sort of money.

    Yup it makes you wonder

    At the same time there is always the issue of " who will actually come".

    At a high level we can put a price against all players, but the big issues is them actually coming, and their clubs willing to sell.

    If only real world was like CM01/02

    "give me your star CM for £20m"

    "No **** off he is ours"

    "I'll give you £22m, stop acting the bollox"

    "Sold"


  • #1918
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,940 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    markcahill1985 wrote: »
    No which is great IMO, Ogden even said on twitter last night that Utd said this deal was dead and he would be very suprised if rumours were true. maybe Ed has been silenced at last the clown :p
    I believe this deal will be almost as much a surprise to Herrera as any english journo to be honest. I reckon this has been done very very quickly, and not one we've been working on for months.


  • #1919
    bangkok
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    adox wrote: »
    If those two signing do happen that will be the guts of £120 million spent on 4 players in 12 months - Fellaini, Mata, Herrera and Shaw.

    Thats a big outlay and makes you wonder what could have been bought for that sort of money.


    we over paid for fellaini no doubt, mata is world class, Herrera has the potential to go there and luke shaw is one of the best young left backs in world football...no problem spending that money on them 4 players


  • #1920
    redbaron_99
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    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    I believe this deal will be almost as much a surprise to Herrera as any english journo to be honest. I reckon this has been done very very quickly, and not one we've been working on for months.

    Or the negotiations might have been ongoing since last summer.


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  • #1921
    Blatter
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    Here's a couple of youtube clips of Herrera's entire performance in matches v Real Madrid and Barcelona last season.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5dnyPXEK5w


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUHvyeBzkg0


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