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Think differently? Think again!

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  • #62
    crockholm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Hardly a leap to conclude parts of rural Ireland are not open to difference? It's not meant as an insult.

    Assume on,but do please explain to me how being seperated by the width of a brick from your neighbour can inherently change you and your whole weltanschauung?


  • #63
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    crockholm wrote: »
    Assume on,but do please explain to me how being seperated by the width of a brick from your neighbour can inherently change you and your whole weltanschauung?
    Arguing for the sake of it/looking for offence tbh.
    You know full well there is a difference in outlooks between cities and very remote areas, generally speaking.


  • #64
    crockholm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Arguing for the sake of it/looking for offence tbh.
    You know full well there is a difference in outlooks between cities and very remote areas, generally speaking.

    I'm not.I'm just challenging your assumptions about what rural people are/Think.

    I very much disagree about the different Outlooks from an urban/rural divide-we all pretty much want the same things at the end of the day.

    I just expected a Little more nous from an intelligent poster such as yourself.


  • #65
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    crockholm wrote: »
    I'm not.I'm just challenging your assumptions about what rural people are/Think.

    I very much disagree about the different Outlooks from an urban/rural divide-we all pretty much want the same things at the end of the day.

    I just expected a Little more nous from an intelligent poster such as yourself.
    I'm weary from the tedious "We Irish are so backward", "Ireland is SO parochial" stuff, believe me, so I don't make such observations without putting thought into them. But people who are, for instance, gay have had a harder time if growing up in a rural area or country town - that's why they move to a city as soon as possible and tend to be a lot happier.


  • #66
    crockholm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Magaggie wrote: »
    I'm weary from the tedious "We Irish are so backward", "Ireland is SO parochial" stuff, believe me, so I don't make such observations without putting thought into them. But people who are, for instance, gay have had a harder time if growing up in a rural area or country town - that's why they move to a city as soon as possible and tend to be a lot happier.

    Or maybe because the gay scene in Lyrecrompane isn't up to much.


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  • #67
    Balmed Out
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    The notion that rural Ireland is this narrow minded, bigoted redneck utopia is in my experience very far of the mark. Moved to west cork some time ago and am constantly surprised by how open minded and accepting most people are. West Cork may however be not the norm but still I imagine theres plenty areas the same.

    You will have plenty of people who may be ignorant but as soon as they meet a gay black muslim or whatever all preconceptions are forgotten and they might even become bussom buddies. People do like to gossip but they like new gossip, someone comes out people chat for two days then someone crashes a car and they switch to the new news.
    Ive been at house parties with local farmers etc mingling with ex-pats from england, germany, switzerland etc. Most of the ex-pats would be fairly alternative but they all mingle and get along grand. Most obvious difference being locals are drinking while non locals are smoking spliffs as well as drinking.

    Anything new is commented on and then very quickly accepted. They seem far more interested in working out a six degrees of separation between people then any kind of scandalous gossip.


  • #68
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    Balmed Out wrote: »
    The notion that rural Ireland is this narrow minded, bigoted redneck utopia is in my experience very far of the mark.
    Yeh it's certainly not applicable to all of rural Ireland. West Cork is particularly bohemian though.


  • #69
    Balmed Out
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    Magaggie wrote: »
    Yeh it's certainly not applicable to all of rural Ireland. West Cork is particularly bohemian though.

    It is but it still shows how rural Irish people react to different people. 50 years ago I imagine it was the same as every other rural area. Far more inquisitive and wanting to know everything about everybody then interested in condemning anybody for pretty much anything. There may be a smirk about the yellow dress the local crossdresser was wearing last week doing the shopping but no one would move over or ignore him in the local pub. The nosiness which is a little annoying at first kind of bonds people together into a fairly tight accepting community as at the end of the day no ones perfect and without fault.


  • #70
    crockholm
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    Balmed Out wrote: »
    It is but it still shows how rural Irish people react to different people. 50 years ago I imagine it was the same as every other rural area. Far more inquisitive and wanting to know everything about everybody then interested in condemning anybody for pretty much anything. There may be a smirk about the yellow dress the local crossdresser was wearing last week doing the shopping but no one would move over or ignore him in the local pub. The nosiness which is a little annoying at first kind of bonds people together into a fairly tight accepting community as at the end of the day no ones perfect and without fault.

    That has been my experience of rural Ireland too,but Christ,try telling that to someone from a Town of 10,000+,and they call bs on it and still tell me it's all twitching curtains, yellow teeth and mass on sunday with an all powerful priest telling us what to do.

    And as far as I'm convinced,much of the article in the op is a crock of shyte


  • #71
    Grayson
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    conorhal wrote: »
    It's the 'everything is shoite, we're shoite, nothing changes because... shoite' liberal self-flagilation groupthink of that article that I find it hard to deal with.

    they're as annoying as the "everything grand" crowd.


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  • #72
    Grayson
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    Magaggie wrote: »
    Nobody has been "sent packing". Their point was: if you think Ireland is a terrible oppressive place for women and people who are different, spend time in a country where that's *actually* the case, in order to develop a bit of perspective.

    You mean a place like Ireland in the 1900's ;) :pac:


  • #73
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    Grayson wrote: »
    You mean a place like Ireland in the 1900's ;) :pac:
    Or Ireland even later.


  • #74
    kupus
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    Balmed Out wrote: »
    The notion that rural Ireland is this narrow minded, bigoted redneck utopia is in my experience very far of the mark. Moved to west cork some time ago and am constantly surprised by how open minded and accepting most people are..

    Ah you see thats west cork, and the biggest thing on the mind of a person from west cork is how come meath can get a west meath, and cork cant.
    It takes up their whole lives and even when they venture out of west cork the first thing they'll tell people is they're from west cork, not cork. You never have to ask. Its like people telling you they go to trinity, or they own an iphone. Its a thing you never ask but never mind you're going to be told anyway. Even if the subject never comes up.
    Open minded you say. A one track mind in support of a county west cork I say.

    !!!!


  • #75
    jimgoose
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    Balmed Out wrote: »
    The notion that rural Ireland is this narrow minded, bigoted redneck utopia is in my experience very far of the mark...

    For sure. Rural Ireland is indeed a redneck utopia - you should see my farmer's tan right now - but it is neither particularly bigoted nor narrow-minded. Rural people tend to be interested in folk, as "folk" are relatively rare. Beyond that, you'll find a healthy blend of neighbourliness and "mind your own gods-dam business".


  • #76
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,201 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    kupus wrote: »
    Ah you see thats west cork, and the biggest thing on the mind of a person from west cork is how come meath can get a west meath, and cork cant.
    It takes up their whole lives and even when they venture out of west cork the first thing they'll tell people is they're from west cork, not cork. You never have to ask. Its like people telling you they go to trinity, or they own an iphone. Its a thing you never ask but never mind you're going to be told anyway. Even if the subject never comes up.
    Open minded you say. A one track mind in support of a county west cork I say.

    !!!!

    Aroo floggin' dat fukkan Treaty of 'oors agin?? :)


  • #77
    griffdaddy
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    I noticed she's amended the end of the article to something a little less extreme


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