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Racism in Rathfarnham

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    #32
    humanji
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    Don't incite violence.


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    #33
    conorhal
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    Lou.m wrote: »
    Reading the thread might help for a start. :rolleyes:

    Post 5

    There is a rally this thurs in rathfarnham village if you care to join.
    I can't believe the irony of your cynicism actually preventing you from seeing it in the thread. Never mind the more the merrier ...who lives here belongs here.

    Huzzah! Every quango hack and special interest group has jumped aboard, we're saved!
    What has an anti deportation group (the bloke is legally here) and the Socialist Workers Party People Before Profit go to do with this beyond another round of self promotion and petty self interest?

    The cops need a giant kick up the hole and this government needs to prioritise frontline policing.


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    #34
    VinLieger
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    conorhal wrote: »
    Huzzah! Every quango hack and special interest group has jumped aboard, we're saved!
    What has an anti deportation group (the bloke is legally here) and the Socialist Workers Party People Before Profit go to do with this beyond another round of self promotion and petty self interest?

    Well the anti deportation group is there because this is probably an issue that many of the people they represent face on a day to day basis.

    This rally isnt just to combat racism against this specific one person its about all racism that affects anybody out there


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    #35
    Reekwind
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    conorhal wrote: »
    Huzzah! Every quango hack and special interest group has jumped aboard, we're saved!
    What has an anti deportation group (the bloke is legally here) and the Socialist Workers Party People Before Profit go to do with this beyond another round of self promotion and petty self interest?
    Because they're groups that have consistently taken a strong and public anti-racism line?


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    #36
    conorhal
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    VinLieger wrote: »
    Well the anti deportation group is there because this is probably an issue that many of the people they represent face on a day to day basis.

    This rally isnt just to combat racism against this specific one person its about all racism that affects anybody out there

    Na, groups like that with their open borders nuttery and opposition to sensible immigration policies do more to foster racism then combat it, and since when did repatriating failed asylum seeker constitute racism?

    Then you have the SWP, the most hideous self promoters in politics that would turn up to protest at the opening of an envelope. Their hijack tactics effectively dismantled the anti property tax movement.
    I went to one protest at the conference center and by the third speech in the agenda had changed to Shannon and the Shell gas pipeline. Those eejits have nothing to add to a protest except perhaps it's fracturing and dismantlement.


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    #37
    Knex*
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    I, somewhat naively, thought that as a country we were gone on from all of this.

    I know its a minority, but this is deeply saddening, disturbing, and infuriating.


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    #38
    Dravokivich
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    EyeSight wrote: »
    Has Ireland got any hate crime or racism laws/sentences in place?
    Who needs it when you've the ability to charge someone for Blasphemy.
    EyeSight wrote: »
    Judges in the UK at the moment are giving jail time to people who partake in racist activity. Even verbal. I think that's a good step in the right direction.

    We shouldn't put someone away for what we consider bad taste and inappropriate. There's no problem with an opinion or discussion of it. The issue is with actions motivated by it.
    EyeSight wrote: »
    If someone was to go onto the streets of Dublin and shout racist terms at people would the guards be able to arrest them for racist behavior or would it be just disturbing the peace?

    I'd hope it's for disturbing the peace. Doesn't matter what kind of shíte they'd be shouting on about.


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    #39
    artful_codger
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    Reekwind wrote: »
    Because they're groups that have consistently taken a strong and public anti-racism line?

    I knew i was just being RACIST when i was outraged at the Eritrean rapist who couldn't be deported.


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    #40
    gandalf
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    Actually this issue goes beyond racism. It's obvious that our police force and justice system are incapable of investigating, prosecuting and punishing the perpetrators of a lot of crimes where assault, violence or attempted violence occur. The problem is not one where the law is weak, it is one where the resources aren't there and ergo the will isn't there to prosecute these people.

    Judges also seem to be unable or unwilling to pass down appropriate sentences when prosecution does actually occur to act as deterrents to those who carry out crimes like this. Until that changes we will see crime and thuggery rise from certain elements in society.


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    #41
    iamstop
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    VinLieger wrote: »
    If you wanna do something about this get 10 mates and lie in wait for them to come back around, then beat the ever loving sh1t out of them. Its the only thing inbred ignorant fvcktards like this will understand.

    I know where you are coming from but I don't feel it need all that. If enough normal people just stood up against the few it would speak volumes.
    I'm reminded of the 'pushers out' type thing that went on in the early 90s in places like Dolphins Barn and the North inner city.

    https://open.spotify.com/album/69JKwCcZGdLqX4Upj3DwP7



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    #42
    SEANoftheDEAD
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    Only came across this article this morning. I'm shocked to read that something like this can happen in Ireland.

    I'm from and have lived in Whitechurch Estate for 28 years now, which is two minutes away from where this attack took place, and can't quite believe what I'm reading. I'm pretty sure I've talked to this man a few times and he seems like a nice guy.

    In my area there are loads of nationalities from African, East Europeans, Spanish etc etc and never once have I seen or heard of the local people (youth or adult) have/do anything remotely racist.

    I'm urging any local people to join the rally tonight and show support for his man.

    Disgraceful.


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    #43
    Legs.Eleven
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    No. :( Horrible story. Shower of ****heads. Disgusting behaviour. Hope the rally goes well.


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    #44
    aphex™
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    I'm in two minds if I will go to the protest.
    On one hand, I would like to protest against Racism.

    On the other hand the protest has been hijacked by lefty loons who would like to pump more money into 'social' causes that turns places like Glenmore into Irish ghettos. Thus leading to more social isolation, kids never leaving their estates, never getting jobs, never getting socialised properly, leading to more misplaced views on immigration and long term more racist attacks.


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    #45
    gandalf
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    aphex™ wrote: »
    On the other hand the protest has been hijacked by lefty loons ...

    This is the problem with a lot of protests in this country and what would put me off getting involved. The last thing I would want is to be associated with some of the people who are involved on a permanent basis in the "protest industry" in this country.


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    #46
    Menas
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    Lou.m wrote: »
    https://www.facebook.com/events/242101795983319/

    Don't worry we are on it!

    Rally: No to Racism. Who Lives Here Belongs Here

    Thursday 19th half six. In Rathfarnham Village ...(which is near the police station :rolleyes: )

    .

    Cheers for the info, I will be there this evening. Hope it is not hijaked by some of those groups involved in it.


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    #47
    Little CuChulainn
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    iamstop wrote: »
    when you try to do anything to protect yourself from these simpletons like try to capture them of camera in the act they tell you it is illegal to photo them! WTF?

    Pretty sure you just made that up because it is most certainly not the case.

    To be honest, this isn't a result of racism really. That's just the reason they've used on this occasion. They'll target anyone and use any excuse.


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    #48
    allibastor
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    Un Croissant wrote: »
    Something tells me this fella didn't take 'their' jobs.

    Have many black people "taken" jobs here. Not from the dole queues that I have seen.


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    #49
    KERSPLAT!
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    allibastor wrote: »
    Have many black people "taken" jobs here. Not from the dole queues that I have seen.


    Jaysus, they either take all 'our' jobs or they dont take enough


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    #50
    Tabnabs
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    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Jaysus, they either take all 'our' jobs or they dont take enough

    "Of course, foreigners steal your job. But maybe, if someone without contacts, money, or speaking the language steals your job, you're ****."


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    #51
    conorhal
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    Tabnabs wrote: »
    "Of course, foreigners steal your job. But maybe, if someone without contacts, money, or speaking the language steals your job, you're ****."

    You may indeed be ****, or merely less then willing to work for less then the minimum wage paid under the counter.


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    #52
    KERSPLAT!
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    conorhal wrote: »
    You may indeed be ****, or merely less then willing to work for less then the minimum wage paid under the counter.

    Or too lazy to work at all in some cases

    Anyway, probably going off topic so I'm out.


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    #53
    bb1234567
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    Wow. and here was naive me thinking racism of this kind didnt happen in ireland anymore...I thought we were well beyond this. Honestly...


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    #54
    allibastor
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    conorhal wrote: »
    You may indeed be ****, or merely less then willing to work for less then the minimum wage paid under the counter.

    I doubt that happens to be honest. in many case the foreign guys are more willing to work and will be more appreciative of a job.


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    #55
    Son Of A Vidic
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    gandalf wrote: »
    This is the problem with a lot of protests in this country and what would put me off getting involved. The last thing I would want is to be associated with some of the people who are involved on a permanent basis in the "protest industry" in this country.

    And that in itself is part of the problem. Why should you put off? The 'left' don't have a monopoly on protest. Protesting against racism & hate crimes shouldn't belong to any side on the political pitch. If you feel strongly enough then you shouldn't be dissuaded. You shouldn't give a crap about who is present during a protest.


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    #56
    bb1234567
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    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    And that in itself is part of the problem. Why should you put off? The 'left' don't have a monopoly on protest. Protesting against racism & hate crimes shouldn't belong to any side on the political pitch. If you feel strongly enough then you shouldn't be dissuaded. You shouldn't give a crap about who is present during a protest.

    While there is obviously racism in the country I dont think theres really enough to warrant any big protests..like its only the very lower rungs of scumbag society that cause these hate crimes and any amount of protests probably wont deter them.
    Ireland may not be a utopian society but compared to the vast majority of countries in the world theres very little racism here. I dont think itll ever be possible to rid all racism out of any country


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    #57
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    bb1234567 wrote: »
    While there is obviously racism in the country I dont think theres really enough to warrant any big protests..like its only the very lower rungs of scumbag society that cause these hate crimes and any amount of protests probably wont deter them.
    Ireland may not be a utopian society but compared to the vast majority of countries in the world theres very little racism here. I dont think itll ever be possible to rid all racism out of any country

    But in this particular case, they tried to burn the guy out of it, a few times. His life is in jeopardy.

    Wouldnt that, shouldnt that, warrant a protest?


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    #58
    Reformed Character
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    conorhal wrote: »
    You may indeed be ****, or merely less then willing to work for less then the minimum wage paid under the counter.

    More bull****.
    So now Paypal, Google, Ebay, the HSE etc ( amongst the biggest employers of non Irish Nationals in the state are paying crap money to those dirty little foreigners and thus stealing our jobs!
    Your xenophobic little crusade knows no bounds, does it?


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    #59
    homerjay2005
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    Jackeens is a racist term

    care to elaborate????


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    #60
    Ranchu
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    People Before Profit are organising the protest. You can't hijack something that you are organising yourself.


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    #61
    BigBrownBear
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    People Before Profit are organising the protest. You can't hijack something that you are organising yourself.

    Without a doubt IMO the stupidest name for a political party/grouping.
    Profitable companies create jobs, supply a wage that's probably relative to their profitability, which in turn improves the lives of their employeess
    Is profit a bad word these days or something :confused:
    Sorry way off topic too


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