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Spain vs Chile - 8pm (BBC1 & RTE2)

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  • #482
    Headshot
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    sad days my ass, its happy days


  • #483
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    HalloweenJack wrote: »
    He's been in the job a wet week and they haven't played a single game... Where do you get that from?

    Fabregas, a fantastic player but a divisive figure at the club, has been removed. Puyol is gone. Valdes is gone. Xavi, the heartbeat of the team, is on hos way out it seems, don't be surprised if Alves goes, possibly with one of Pedro or Sanchez. Deadweight will likely be moved on too. While, by the end of the summer, 8 players are hoped to be introduced to the squad. Rakitic is in, Delofeu and Rafinha Alcantara will also be added to the first team, 5 more players to come possibly and you will likely see Adama, Munir or Samper play more first team football.

    Lucho hasn't been there long but it's been decisive, much as Pep was when he arrived. That you haven't even noticed the evolution take place tells me that it's being efficiently carried out.


  • #484
    jonnyfingers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    Quite happy to see Spain go, they thoroughly deserved it, outplayed in both games I thought. Once again showing they don't seem to have a plan B when things aren't going their way.


  • #485
    gandalf
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    Surprised at how bad Spain have been. The guy in work who drew them might actually win the worst team prize.

    I wonder what the odds were on them being elimated first was?


  • #486
    CountyHurler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭CountyHurler


    Iniesta is 30 years old.... LOL


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  • #487
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Looks like Anderson

    It definitely doesn't.


  • #488
    jonnny68
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    Dreadful performance from the Spanish, they never turned up at all in their 2 games to date.


  • #489
    allonboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭allonboard


    I was worried about Spain in this tournament. I thought Chile would top the group and that Spain would just about get second. But they've showed all the signs of a spent force. Costa was pathetic I don't know why Spain even wanted him in the squad. David Silva was awful tonight too I lost count of the number of times he gave the ball away.


  • #490
    kryogen
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    Delighted with that result, they can smug off back to Spain with their smug heads

    Viva la Anti Tika Taka!


  • #491
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Well, they conceded seven goals in two games compared to two goals in seven games the last time round. What has happened to that defence?

    I think it was just arrogance from the Spaniards. Casillas being interviewed now and saying they did all they could. He said sorry and congratulated Chile because they were better. He looks to be in complete disbelief. This is typical of Spaniards in general, not just when it comes to football. They just can't believe that things don't always go their way. Now, we wait for the excuses.

    I can't go into a big dissection of Spain as to why it didn't work out because I had previously backed them to win it. Just didn't see that coming at all. I could have imagined them not winning it but not falling apart so listlessly.

    I think big changes are needed and don't think del Bosque is the man for the job. he's just been on and he's equally clueless but he is not giving anything away.


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  • #492
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    It definitely doesn't.

    Not you!

    The Utd chap


  • #493
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    You know things are bad when John Giles is the voice of reason... Iniesta 26 lol.


  • #494
    ceegee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    Fabregas, a fantastic player but a device figure at the club, has been removed. Puyol is gone. Valdes is gone. Xavi, the heartbeat of the team, is on hos way out it seems, don't be surprised if Alves goes, possibly with one of Pedro or Sanchez. Deadweight will likely be moved on too. While, by the end of the summer, 8 players are hoped to be introduced to the squad. Rakitic is in, Delofeu and Rafinha Alcantara will also be added to the first team, 5 more players to come possibly and you will likely see Adama, Munir or Samper play more first team football.

    Lucho hasn't been there long but it's been decisive, much as Pep was when he arrived. That you haven't even noticed the evolution take place tells me that it's being efficiently carried out.

    5 players POSSIBLY coming in isnt an evolution. The spine of their team is on the way out and wont be easily replaced


  • #495
    Washington Irving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    They've been deserving winners of the last three major tournaments but it's always nice to see the reigning champions totally collapse. I'll savour this one.


  • #496
    Bacchus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    RTE panel... "Sad day" WTF! You adapt and grow or you fall by the side. Spain looked to have bought into the idea that they just had to turn up to win. They played terrible football and the better teams won. This is what the WC is about. "Sad day" pffft I'm sure the Chileans don't see it that way.


  • #497
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    Rakitic is in, Delofeu and Rafinha Alcantara will also be added to the first team, 5 more players to come possibly and you will likely see Adama, Munir or Samper play more first team football.

    Lucho hasn't been there long but it's been decisive, much as Pep was when he arrived. That you haven't even noticed the evolution take place tells me that it's being efficiently carried out.

    None of whom have kicked a ball in a Barca shirt.

    Rakatic is a fine player but there are question marks over all the others.


  • #498
    Washington Irving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    We haven't seen a title defence this weak since Manchester United 13/14.


  • #499
    Headshot
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Not you!

    The Utd chap

    I lolled big time at this


  • #500
    shamrock55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    COYVB wrote: »
    WAHAY

    WTF!!


  • #501
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    So then, too early for the "Are Spain and De Bosque Done" thread?


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  • #502
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    Im glad spain are gone, they were embaressing to watch useless bunch of pre maddonnas,

    Prima donna.

    Pre-madonna would be something that happened before the singer Madonna was born (c.1876).
    -


  • #503
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Out on a wimper which is both a surprise and disappointment. Dodgy keeping aside they were pretty rudderless when going behind.


  • #504
    McGrath5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    The end of an era.

    Over the past 6 years Spain certainly set a benchmark for success that I doubt we will be seeing anytime soon again.


  • #505
    Bacchus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    mike65 wrote: »
    So then, too early for the "Are Spain and De Bosque Done" thread?

    What'd be the point. It's an open and shut case. :)

    Spain need new ideas cos they still have the players.


  • #506
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    Fabregas, a fantastic player but a divisive figure at the club, has been removed. Puyol is gone. Valdes is gone. Xavi, the heartbeat of the team, is on hos way out it seems, don't be surprised if Alves goes, possibly with one of Pedro or Sanchez. Deadweight will likely be moved on too. While, by the end of the summer, 8 players are hoped to be introduced to the squad. Rakitic is in, Delofeu and Rafinha Alcantara will also be added to the first team, 5 more players to come possibly and you will likely see Adama, Munir or Samper play more first team football.

    Lucho hasn't been there long but it's been decisive, much as Pep was when he arrived. That you haven't even noticed the evolution take place tells me that it's being efficiently carried out.
    Most of that was already in motion before Tata even left. Let's see the players he brings in and the style he gets them playing before talking about the evolution.


  • #507
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    ceegee wrote: »
    5 players POSSIBLY coming in isnt an evolution. The spine of their team is on the way out and wont be easily replaced

    8 players. With key players like Valdes (the number 1 goalkeeper throughout this period) Alves (one of Pep's first signings and undisputed first choice right back), Puyol (club captain and leader), Xavi (vice captain, leader and the hub of the team), Fabregas (highly rated, but ultimately problematic playmaker), and one of Pedro or Sanchez. If that isn't evolution, perhaps even bordering on revolution, then I don't know what is.


  • #508
    Timmyctc
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    Thought I'd be happy seeing Spain collapse like this, given how much I hate their abysmal sportsmanship, however, Chile are equally bad in that regard so I'd be happy to see Chile get schooled in the next round.


  • #509
    kevpants
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    McGrath5 wrote: »
    The end of an era.

    Over the past 6 years Spain certainly set a benchmark for success that I doubt we will be seeing anytime soon again.

    Here's hoping they go back to being perennial underachievers. That sh1t was hilarious. Would be even more hilarious if it was the encore to their tika-taka bullsh1t.


  • #510
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    8 players. With key players like Valdes (the number 1 goalkeeper throughout this period) Alves (one of Pep's first signings and undisputed first choice right back), Puyol (club captain and leader), Xavi (vice captain, leader and the hub of the team), Fabregas (highly rated, but ultimately problematic playmaker), and one of Pedro or Sanchez. If that isn't evolution, perhaps even bordering on revolution, then I don't know what is.

    Devolution


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  • #511
    Hitchens
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    kevpants wrote: »
    Would be even more hilarious if it was the encore to their tika-taka bullsh1t.
    ya can't bate the long ball :D


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