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Psychic/Mediums!

  • 11-06-2014 10:24PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭


    I've a few friends who regularly visit 'Mediums' - years ago I would have laughed at this - but have to say in recent years, and with regard to certain Mediums that they have in common that they have visited - I'm now curious! There were too many personal details that they spoke of that they could NOT have known about ......!


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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    I've a few friends who regularly visit 'Mediums' - years ago I would have laughed at this - but have to say in recent years, and with regard to certain Mediums that they have in common that they have visited - I'm now curious! There were too many personal details that they spoke of that they could NOT have known about ......!


    Look up Cold Reading, and look up Suggestion.

    There are no such things as psychics, I promise you. Only the deluded and frauds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    I've a few friends who regularly visit 'Mediums' - years ago I would have laughed at this - but have to say in recent years, and with regard to certain Mediums that they have in common that they have visited - I'm now curious! There were too many personal details that they spoke of that they could NOT have known about ......!

    This is how they do it...

    It's actually a fairly easy trick once you practice it a bit. Can be handy in sales!

    Anyway, it's all BS - nobody knows the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    I predict...... You will not find any posters agreeing with you..

    Also your aunt wants to have word over that tenner you borrowed before she died.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Alf. A. Male


    I knew you were going to start this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I knew this thread was coming.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I knew you were going to start this thread.

    I knew somebody would beat me to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Barrel full of fish? Check.
    Loaded shotgun? Check.

    AHer's do your worst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    This is how they do it...

    It's actually a fairly easy trick once you practice it a bit. Can be handy in sales!

    Anyway, it's all BS - nobody knows the future.

    But it wasn't the future they were talking about - it was 'communicating' with recent deceased loved ones! Was very comforting to my friends - but again, I will say they knew things that only the families knew - it was very unusual and hard to believe!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    nullzero wrote: »
    Barrel full of fish? Check.
    Loaded shotgun? Check.

    AHer's do your worst.

    What's the point? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I have a jar of tasty reggae sauce in my fridge. I know it will give me more runs than Brian Lara but I still put it on my salad this evening.

    Psychic or stupid?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    A newspaper editor found that downsizing was required so he had to sack a few of his workers, one of whom was the paper's psychic column writer.

    He brought them in one at a time to break the bad news and when the psychic came in the editor said: "as you no doubt already know............." :)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,418 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    People go to those people wanting to believe whatever they're told. They don't want to be seen to be gullible or easily led, especially after handing over hard cash for it, so they'll give credence to stuff that has been cold read to them and apply it to things in their life that have happened. If it was harmless fun that was free, I'd say fine, let them at it. But there's a whole forum on this site of people falling over themselves trying to find the "best" medium so that they can line their pockets while being conned. I despise those people for preying on what are very often desperate or vulnerable customers who have abandoned logic and common sense for whatever reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Zaph wrote: »
    People go to those people wanting to believe whatever they're told. They don't want to be seen to be gullible or easily led, especially after handing over hard cash for it, so they'll give credence to stuff that has been cold read to them and apply it to things in their life that have happened. If it was harmless fun that was free, I'd say fine, let them at it. But there's a whole forum on this site of people falling over themselves trying to find the "best" medium so that they can line their pockets while being conned. I despise those people for preying on what are very often desperate or vulnerable customers who have abandoned logic and common sense for whatever reason.
    fun is never free :p


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    But it wasn't the future they were talking about - it was 'communicating' with recent deceased loved ones! Was very comforting to my friends - but again, I will say they knew things that only the families knew - it was very unusual and hard to believe!?

    It's hard to believe because it's not true.

    No matter how significant the 'details' they gave from family members, of course the disembodied spirit of some dead relative isn't giving cryptic messages to a total stranger to pass on from beyond the grave. It preposterous to even consider it a possibility.

    Why would you or anyone consider that to be a more likely scenario than the use of visual and verbal micro clues to deduce what it is that a sitter wants to hear? Why are ghosts and spirits and all manner of supernatural shenanigans more believeable? Because thats what people want to believe.

    Not because its real, not because it's proven, but because it helps. And that's what makes these so-called psychics nothing more than exploitative frauds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Candie wrote: »
    It's hard to believe because it's not true.

    No matter how significant the 'details' they gave from family members, of course the disembodied spirit of some dead relative isn't giving cryptic messages to a total stranger to pass on from beyond the grave. It preposterous to even consider it a possibility.

    Why would you or anyone consider that to be a more likely scenario than the use of visual and verbal micro clues to deduce what it is that a sitter wants to hear? Why are ghosts and spirits and all manner of supernatural shenanigans more believeable? Because thats what people want to believe.

    Not because its real, not because it's proven, but because it helps. And that's what makes these so-called psychics nothing more than exploitative frauds.

    but in all fairness Candie, would you spend a winters night alone in a haunted house?

    be honest now! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    But it wasn't the future they were talking about - it was 'communicating' with recent deceased loved ones! Was very comforting to my friends - but again, I will say they knew things that only the families knew - it was very unusual and hard to believe!?

    If you as many people do believe in an afterlife then communicating with it doesn't seem like a stretch.
    Not sure of the point of it though even on the off chance that it was real,life is for the living as they say better to not dwell on the dead.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hitchens wrote: »
    but in all fairness Candie, would you spend a winters night alone in a haunted house?

    be honest now! :)

    If I believed that houses could be haunted I probably wouldn't, but since I don't...:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    I went to one a couple of years ago. Waste of money.

    She knew I had a 'baby'. At the time I thought she was brilliant cause I would call my dog baby.

    But look up cold reading. Now how many people have 'babies'? Even men and their cars can be their pride and joy and be their babies. So of course everyone has a 'baby' whether in human form or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    I went to one a couple of years ago. Waste of money.

    She knew I had a 'baby'. At the time I thought she was brilliant cause I would call my dog baby.

    But look up cold reading. Now how many people have 'babies'? Even men and their cars can be their pride and joy and be their babies. So of course everyone has a 'baby' whether in human form or not.

    my baby left me, and found a new place to dwell :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Only Whoopi Goldberg can communicate with the dead, everyone knows that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    A friend of mine was really into these and kept telling me to go (as a skeptic), I absolutely refused to for ages as I've had a strong interest in mentalism and I know how they do it. He said that this one will tell me things that she couldn't possibly know so I said fair enough, but I'm going to record the whole thing to disect it after.

    Apparently recording it is strictly prohibited, riiiight, I wonder why. I never went in the end. Bunch of scammers, I feel sorry for the people who believe them and get dragged in by it all. Wasting their money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Its worth noting that there are many mediums who do readings for free. I know for sure in England, you can go to a "Spiritualist" church and have a reading at no charge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium




    This is my first exposure to anything Derren Brown and it's fantastic

    I love how he is so open about saying what he does is an illusion and people willingly agree to be deceived for entertainment. We want to believe.

    He is a firm supporter of those who want to expose frauds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,373 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Its worth noting that there are many mediums who do readings for free. I know for sure in England, you can go to a "Spiritualist" church and have a reading at no charge.

    Yay!! Free Bullshit!


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I love Derren Brown.

    There's also the James Randi Challenge. In 1964, magician, pseudoscience debunker, and fraud exposer James Randi offered a challenge to any psychic or medium who would take part in a challenge that demonstrated their ability under controlled scientific conditions. If they took part in the challenge and their 'ability' was proven, they would walk away with $1million.

    It still stands unclaimed, even after more than 1000 people were confident enough to take part in it.

    http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

    If I was a 'real' psychic, I'd be dying to show the world how genuine I was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Jeefff


    If I went to a medium and was told
    'your granda is here 'Paddy', he wants me to tell you you're a lickarse gob****e'
    I'd bow down and accept that mediums are real and there was infact an afterlife..

    If I went and heard 'theres an older man here, he says he loves you'
    I'd spit in the mediums face

    What makes me more upset is how terrified people are of death that they believe any aul shyt to help them sleep at night, and flock to see these disgusting frauds, faking modesty by asking for a donation instead of having a fixed price, that only makes people think they're more honest, and inevitibly give them more than recommended price.. Fcuk off you evil cnuts


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its worth noting that there are many mediums who do readings for free. I know for sure in England, you can go to a "Spiritualist" church and have a reading at no charge.

    OMG, then it must be real!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,673 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I believe they are vermin.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Candie wrote: »
    I love Derren Brown.


    If I was a 'real' psychic, I'd be dying to show the world how genuine I was.

    Ah but there is suppossed to be humble and meek, and not show their miracles openly, only to those deep enough it in.

    Dylan Moran:

    I only get annoyed when they try and make me see the fairy. “You have to let the fairy into your heart.” Look, I wouldn’t let him into my garden, okay? I’d shoot him on sight, if he existed, which he doesn’t. Now have a biccie

    Religion,
    Homeopathy,
    etc


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