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Numbers coming home from Australia?

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  • #62
    ewinslet
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ewinslet


    I often wonder what do the natives of Melbourne/Sydney/Perth etc think of all these unskilled Irish mingers shacking up there. I rarely hear things from their perspective.


  • #63
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,239 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    catbear wrote: »
    Have you heard their prime minister? I'll let him speak for himself.

    And he is now the elected Prime Minister!

    Giving out about immigrants...and he a £10 Pom himself.


  • #64
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    ewinslet wrote: »
    I often wonder what do the natives of Melbourne/Sydney/Perth etc think of all these unskilled Irish mingers shacking up there. I rarely hear things from their perspective.
    I've been told I was very welcome in Perth and more of my kind were needed as there were too many blacks. Classy place.


  • #65
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,239 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Ah man. Coopers sparkling ale ftw. OBriens do it here. My beer of choice it is simply delicious. :D

    Coopers is nice stuff, and am partial to Boags. :D


  • #66
    NZ_2014
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭NZ_2014


    ewinslet wrote: »
    I often wonder what do the natives of Melbourne/Sydney/Perth etc think of all these unskilled Irish mingers shacking up there. I rarely hear things from their perspective.

    By natives do you mean the aboriginals? Cause everyone else is an immigrant or at least their great great grandparents were.


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  • #67
    ewinslet
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ewinslet


    NZ_2014 wrote: »
    By natives do you mean the aboriginals? Cause everyone else is an immigrant or at least their great great grandparents were.

    Surely there are people born there and consider it their proper home.


  • #68
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    NZ_2014 wrote: »
    By natives do you mean the aboriginals? Cause everyone else is an immigrant or at least their great great grandparents were.
    Imagine saying that at a black American?

    It's a pretty racist thing to say. Slagging off someone because their great grand parents did not come from the place were they themselves were born.


  • #69
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    ewinslet wrote: »
    Surely there are people born there and consider it their proper home.
    It's only since 1967 that the "natives" were allowed a vote in their own land that they'd occupied for 40,000 years. So on a scale of native title white Europeans are still blow ins.


  • #70
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    catbear wrote: »
    Interesting you mention availibility, last time in Ireland Dunne's had beerlao, can't get it here but it was still cheaper than the local crap in australia.
    I think they superchill their beer so tastebuds are numbed sufficiently to mask the lack of taste. Gassy piss you wouldn't give a dingo.
    You can get Beer Lao in Dan Murphy's. Not sure what the craft beer scene is like in Perth (probably **** but thats Perth for you) but there is a huge craft beer scene in Sydney, at least in places like Surry Hills and Paddington.


  • #71
    Ambersky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Ambersky


    I found it an interesting experience in Canada to be told by a Native Canadian to "Go Home".
    I considered it similar to someone saying "Brits Out" in Ireland with all its complexity but acknowledging there is an issue.
    I dont know why Irish people dont think of the people who were colonised and the genocide that happened in order to clear the land for whites like us, some of it during the same time periods as some of the colonisation in Ireland.
    The issues of aboriginal peoples are quite simular to those in the North of Ireland with people currently looking for civil rights and acknowledgement and retribution for injustices.


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  • #72
    anto9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Lot of hate for Australia here.

    Give me walking down to work at 5am, lovely warm air, kookaburras, parrakeets and cockatoos chirping, cackling and squawking in the air, doing an honest days work for an honest days pay, and finished work, and bobbing up and down in the waves of manly beach by 2pm over my 9-6 here anyway.

    I was offered a decent job back in Oz on the western coast a year and a half ago, sadly my wife's a home bird. So it's not so sunny Ireland for me. :mad:

    And for those complaining about the ozzie beer.

    Coopers. That is all.

    I like Coopers and their stout is good also .I was just shocked by the beer prices even for a take away from a bottle shop in Aus when there 2 years.
    ago .


  • #73
    Bog Standard User
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Bog Standard User


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    Has anybody else noticed a lot coming home from Oz lately? I often wonder to myself how many will actually stay away in different countries

    2 year visa expired


  • #74
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    Imagine saying that at a black American?

    It's a pretty racist thing to say. Slagging off someone because their great grand parents did not come from the place were they themselves were born.
    It's a different story when grandparents had no rights or representation in their native land, now that is more than words, that's racism in action.
    The apology is not the end, it's only the beginning of the reconciliation.


  • #75
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    It's a different story when grandparents had no rights or representation in their native land, now that is more than words, that's racism in action.
    The apology is not the end, it's only the beginning of the reconciliation.

    What is the end ?


  • #76
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    What is the end ?

    A non racist Australia doh!


  • #77
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    A non racist Australia doh!

    And how is that measured?


  • #78
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ewinslet wrote: »
    I often wonder what do the natives of Melbourne/Sydney/Perth etc think of all these unskilled Irish mingers shacking up there. I rarely hear things from their perspective.
    I found pretty much everyone in Sydney I met was really friendly and had no issue with me being Irish.

    Almost everyone Irish I met over there who complained about the Australians opinions of them were the type who were proud as possible about spending every spare moment in "County Bondi", every night in the Cock and Bull, Scruffy Murphys and other Iris pubs, only hung around with other Irish people (and in hostels would actively go about only interacting with Irish or Scottish people, and maybe some English/Welsh), worked for Irish people, complained endlessly about anything that was different from Ireland (though beef sausages are justified... pure mank, like eating hot cardboard) and insisted on constantly getting loud and langered drunk in a country were that is actually frowned upon in many places for the most part. Little wonder they felt the Aussies were not fond of them, and just comical when it was someone who complained about Polish, Muslims, etc not interacting enough over here (or referred to Asians/Arabs in Australia as "foreigners").


  • #79
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    And how is that measured?
    If you're Australian just consult your constitution.


  • #80
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    If you're Australian just consult your constitution.

    That's a ridiculous answer


  • #81
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    That's a ridiculous answer
    I bet you wouldn't say that to Adam Goode's face.


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  • #82
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    I bet you wouldn't say that to Adam Goode's face.

    Here is a quote from Mr Goode
    [“First of all, Aboriginal people have been here a lot longer than anybody else, so just remember whose lands you are on and maybe pay a little bit more respect to that,’’ he said.

    Let's change the setting to Ireland in reference to new African migrants.
    “First of all, White people have been here a lot longer than anybody else, so just remember whose lands you are on and maybe pay a little bit more respect to that,’’ he said.

    Can you imagine a white person saying that?

    But we digress so I assume when section 25 of the constitution is amended then Australia will not be racist in your eyes?


  • #83
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    So do you think Adam Goode is being (to use your word) ridiculous?

    Is there a similar racial article in the Irish constitution?

    E-mail recognise.org.au and tell them they're been ridiculous and that racist attitudes in Ireland or elsewhere justifies constitutional racism against aboriginals in their own land. Let me know how you get on.


  • #84
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    If you're Australian just consult your constitution.

    I asked you this question.

    When would you consider Australia not a racist country, asking me to read the constitution and guess what you are thinking is a ridiculous answer.


  • #85
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    I asked you this question.

    When would you consider Australia not a racist country asking me to read the constitution and guess what you are thinking is a ridiculous answer.
    Is there punctuation missing in that sentence?


  • #86
    Nelson Muntz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Nelson Muntz


    As certain as death and taxes, catbear turning up on any thread where Australia is mentioned to bag everything from the food to Perth to the prices to the racist Aussies.

    FFS, you & jon jo should start a we hate Australia club & send each emails about how awful it is.


  • #87
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    Is there punctuation missing in that sentence?

    It's a simple question if you want something to change you need to define that change?

    If you don't know just admit that.


  • #88
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    It's a simple question if you want something to change you need to define that change?

    If you don't know just admit that.
    You asked about change, I cited change.org.au which you stated was ridiculous.

    You insinuated Adam Goode was racist by reframing his quote in an Irish context which ignores the differences in these constitutions, which lies at the heart of what he was saying.

    So I'm guessing you're one keyboard warrior who won't be supporting recognise.org.au. Preserving the status quo can allow another groundless "intervention".


  • #89
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    catbear wrote: »
    You asked about change, I cited change.org.au which you stated was ridiculous.

    You insinuated Adam Goode was racist by reframing his quote in an Irish context which ignores the differences in these constitutions, which lies at the heart of what he was saying.

    So I'm guessing you're one keyboard warrior who won't be supporting change.org.au. Preserving the status quo can allow another groundless "intervention".

    You mean this one?
    http://www.change.org.au


  • #90
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Zambia wrote: »
    You mean this one?
    http://www.change.org.au
    Yes, recognise.org.au. I was vexed. But change is required.


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  • #91
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Nelson Muntz wrote: »
    As certain as death and taxes, catbear turning up on any thread where Australia is mentioned to bag everything from the food to Perth to the prices to the racist Aussies.

    FFS, you & jon jo should start a we hate Australia club & send each emails about how awful it is.
    As the good christian tony abbot said, Australia is not for everyone, not even the natives!


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