Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

bangkok · 10-06-2014 03:03PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Just looking there, Pogba only signed a 4 year contract when signing for Juve. It's probably the reason they are willing to at least entertain bids as his salary is only £10K a week so surely he has been offered higher wages on a longer term contract. That would have happened after season one I am sure and the fact he is still on the original contract surely means he refused to sign (all conjecture of course). so Juve have three choices:

1. Pay him the salary on a par that his supposed £60M value entails
2. Let him wind down his contract whilst getting value by his contributions on the pitch whilst seeing his market value dwindle or
3. Sell him now and maximize their profit

Also giving his agents form, Juve probably got wind of the agent talking to other clubs. Fergie did claim this happened at United so maybe for once he was telling the truth about the player and not just spinning to make United look better.

Just realised I have too much time on my hands today

pogba was on 10k a week 2012 but 70k a week 2014

bangkok · 10-06-2014 03:04PM

Robson99 wrote: »

Pique?? a F**K up or never made the grade???

pique got homesick and barca made a move to take him home for 7m so fergie agreed. rio and vidic were there as well so was never going to budge them

Crimson King · 10-06-2014 03:06PM

bangkok wrote: »

pogba was on 10k a week 2012 but 70k a week 2014

Has he signed? Can't see it online, except this offer:

http://www.football-italia.net/43630/juve-hike-pogba%E2%80%99s-wage-but%E2%80%A6

Cantona's Collars · 10-06-2014 03:16PM

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

2/10. Luck wasn't on my side with the guesses. Don't know anything about United in the 80's.

Glory Hunter :pac::pac:

glued · 10-06-2014 03:24PM

bangkok wrote: »

pique got homesick and barca made a move to take him home for 7m so fergie agreed. rio and vidic were there as well so was never going to budge them

Ferguson sold him because he preferred Evans.

lordgoat · 10-06-2014 03:27PM

Bangkok obvious getting his facts from his brother in Turin. It is Turin he's in isn't it?

If anyone was in any doubt how little you knew you really confirmed it this afternoon.

Killed it. Well played.

bangkok · 10-06-2014 03:32PM

lordgoat wrote: »

Bangkok obvious getting his facts from his brother in Turin. It is Turin he's in isn't it?

If anyone was in any doubt how little you knew you really confirmed it this afternoon.

Killed it. Well played.

cheers

bangkok · 10-06-2014 03:33PM

glued wrote: »

Ferguson sold him because he preferred Evans.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/11/16/gerrard-pique-reveals-why-he-left-manchester-united-for-barcelona/

fergie also said in his book he got homesick

glued · 10-06-2014 03:34PM

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/11/16/gerrard-pique-reveals-why-he-left-manchester-united-for-barcelona/

It was wildly reported at the time that Ferguson sold him becuase he didn't think Evans and Pique could both develop in the one side. I'm 99% certain of that

bangkok · 10-06-2014 03:43PM

glued wrote: »

It was wildly reported at the time that Ferguson sold him becuase he didn't think Evans and Pique could both develop in the one side. I'm 99% certain of that

im 100% sure he got homesick...

IrishIrish · 10-06-2014 03:45PM

The amount of ridiculous posts over the last few pages is hilarious. Everyone is an expert now looking back at decisions made years ago :rolleyes:

Was hardly a big decision selling Pique over Evans. Evans was a year younger, had a great season on loan at Sunderland and would be much more likely to be staying at united for his career. Pique had done well away on loan with Zaragoza and would always have been likely to return to Spain at some stage.

Neither of these players were ever going to replace Rio or Vidic at the time so obviously one of them was going to go. Easy decision.

Crimson King · 10-06-2014 03:46PM

bangkok wrote: »

pogba was on 10k a week 2012 but 70k a week 2014

Just checked on transfermarket http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/paul-pogba/profil/spieler/122153 and it seems his contract is up in 2 years so he is still on his original 4 year, £10K a week wage.

It could well be the source of the speculation. Everyone is reporting that United have (they don't) £200M to spend and have a weak midfield. Thus Pogba's agent could be using this to gain higher wages for his client.

Or Juve could be seeing that the player and agent has form in this area and want to call their bluff to see if he will sign a new contract or just sell him now as next season the player is on his last year of the contract.

Modern day football in a nutshell it seems.

paulbok · 10-06-2014 03:52PM

I can see Pogba developing into another Anelka, and engineering big money moves every few years for the big signing on fees. Wouldn't be surprised to see him try and run down his contract at Juve and sign for Barca/Real in 2 years.

Crimson King · 10-06-2014 03:57PM

paulbok wrote: »

I can see Pogba developing into another Anelka, and engineering big money moves every few years for the big signing on fees. Wouldn't be surprised to see him try and run down his contract at Juve and sign for Barca/Real in 2 years.

Exactly. Play the long game and take the signing on fees, improved contracts every time. It's made Anelka a very wealthy man as the only time he ever put a transfer request in (thus losing a signing on fee) was from Bolton to Chelsea if I remember correctly. its a pity as Anelka should be remembered as being one of the best strikers of his generation, rather than a money grabbing mercenary.

fatherted1969 · 10-06-2014 04:04PM

zerks wrote: »

Chill out with this quiz,I got 7/10 - I got the 3 'easiest' ones wrong.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-quiz-80s-7245783

Whoo hoo 6/10 where's me prize

Giggsy11 · 10-06-2014 04:11PM

zerks wrote: »

Chill out with this quiz,I got 7/10 - I got the 3 'easiest' ones wrong.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-quiz-80s-7245783

5/10, 2 I knew and 3 guesses

lordgoat · 10-06-2014 04:25PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Just checked on transfermarket http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/paul-pogba/profil/spieler/122153 and it seems his contract is up in 2 years so he is still on his original 4 year, £10K a week wage.

It could well be the source of the speculation. Everyone is reporting that United have (they don't) £200M to spend and have a weak midfield. Thus Pogba's agent could be using this to gain higher wages for his client.

Or Juve could be seeing that the player and agent has form in this area and want to call their bluff to see if he will sign a new contract or just sell him now as next season the player is on his last year of the contract.

Modern day football in a nutshell it seems.

Yep Pogba signed a contract that offered a lower salary than the one united offered. He wanted out mainly due to playing time.

v3ttel · 10-06-2014 04:44PM

Got 7/10 on the United in the 80s quiz too, even though I was only alive for half the decade. :pac:

I only really knew 3 or 4 answers and went with a gut instinct for the rest. Not bad all the same.

xtal191 · 10-06-2014 04:54PM

Al Capwned · 10-06-2014 04:58PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Scholes Video

First take I bet....

RasTa · 10-06-2014 05:25PM

I'm just looking forward to the WC getting started.

10-06-2014 05:45PM

RasTa wrote: »

I'm just looking forward to the WC getting started.

I like football.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-06-2014 05:50PM

WC is still Big Daddy but Euros as a competition is better quality.

Not complaining though should be v good and interesting where it's very open.

beno619 · 10-06-2014 06:06PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

WC is still Big Daddy but Euros as a competition is better quality.

Not complaining though should be v good and interesting where it's very open.

Euro 2012 was awful. I've much preferred the past two World Cups.

NoviGlitzko · 10-06-2014 06:27PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

WC is still Big Daddy but Euros as a competition is better quality.

Not complaining though should be v good and interesting where it's very open.

Euros doesn't hold a candle to the WC for me. The South American, African, & even other teams like Japan, Oz, & USA have quality that makes it more of a spectacle.

Donnielighto · 10-06-2014 06:27PM

Euros are better quailty but the world cup throws up better individual games

bantee · 10-06-2014 06:48PM

Euros won't be as high quality any more when increased to 24 teams. Even Ireland might qualify!

Owen_S · 10-06-2014 07:27PM

Euro 2016 is the first of the diluted Euro Championships, World Cup is the best from now on.

kryogen · 10-06-2014 07:52PM

More ****ty games at the WC but it holds more interest generally because of the likes of Brazil and Argentina being involved

dahat · 10-06-2014 07:54PM

Jamie Jackson going with a sit on the fence story regarding interest on Sanchez, not much on it but I wonder has he been briefed in some way?

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