What's the most ridiculous argument you've ever heard??

Hotale.com · 10-06-2014 01:44PM

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

apparently women can't rape men either.

He obviously wanted it if he had an erection :rolleyes:

The fact so many people believe that makes it even worse.

Carlos Orange · 10-06-2014 01:44PM

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

apparently women can't rape men either.

Does that go along with an erection is consent?

StinkyMunkey · 10-06-2014 01:47PM

More guns will stop gun crime

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Ban knives and cars because they kill people (in a gun debate).

Hotale.com · 10-06-2014 01:51PM

I think this proves that ridiculous does not necessarily mean baseless :rolleyes:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-M5fqSR1Q0Y8/TatUFu0m99I/AAAAAAAAbe8/UukvPRjJe_U/s640/dihydrogenmonoxide10.jpg

keith16 · 10-06-2014 01:54PM

Closing off licences at 10pm but leaving clubs open until 3am will solve all of our problems with alcohol!

Maybe we should charge a minimum price for that off licence alcohol too - the bad kind.

MRnotlob606 · 10-06-2014 01:56PM

alice. wrote: »

Tomato is a fruit!!!!

haha thats trivial

FunLover18 · 10-06-2014 02:14PM

Instead of making Irish optional at Leaving Cert level it should be divided into two separate subjects

Buzz Killington the third · 10-06-2014 02:15PM

What 2 subjects?

DoesNotCompute · 10-06-2014 02:22PM

1. Tax the rich

2. Any argument that creationists or scientologists roll out

3. Anything said by the anti-fluoride crowd

4. Anything the CT crowd say about the Illuminati, lizard people, 9/11, or MH730

Duggy747 · 10-06-2014 02:23PM

Know a hardcore feminist who will vote for Joan Burton purely and only on the basis that "politics needs more women" and that she is "empowering females in a male-dominated society."

FunLover18 · 10-06-2014 02:24PM

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

What 2 subjects?

Looking for the link now, but essentially one would be the prose and poetry, can't remember what the other one would be, probably conversational. And one of them would remain compulsory

EDIT: Link

A two-subject approach is needed for the state examinations. Take the poetry, prose and history of the Irish language out of the current course and expand it into a separate, optional subject for advanced students, something akin to Applied Maths. “Irish Language” as a main subject would be taught to every student as a core subject with a renewed emphasis on understanding, speaking and writing the language. This subject would also cover language awareness and should be taught and assessed using the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages.

It's ridiculous in my mind anyway

Tony EH · 10-06-2014 02:51PM

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Most ridiculous one I have ever heard is "Men can't experience sexism"

I've actually been involved in this argument, with about four women who broadly agreed.

My mind nearly melted.

mrkiscool2 · 10-06-2014 02:56PM

Tony EH wrote: »

I've actually been involved in this argument, with about four women who broadly agreed.

My mind nearly melted.

I argued with two female feminists and 3 men who also claimed to be feminists. The amount of times I heard "patriarchy" and "misogyny" was insane.

old hippy · 10-06-2014 03:03PM

So many; where to begin?

Calls to sterilise large swathes of society. If my eyes rolled any further they'd fall out... :rolleyes:

Buzz Killington the third · 10-06-2014 03:04PM

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

I argued with two female feminists

Destined to fail before you began.

Sunglasses Ron · 11-06-2014 10:33AM

Aside from quite literally anything and everything the AH PC brigade come up, it would be an extension of the below

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

More guns will stop gun crime.

Ban knives and cars because they kill people (in a gun debate).

A hilarious, yet disturbing, extension to this one is the seemingly large amount of Americans who believe that most, if not all, gun massacres since the Aurora massacre at the very least, are either

a- Orchestrated by multiple gunmen, leaving a usually "suicide" dead body gunman to take the blame

b- The government hands high powered firearms to some nut on CIA mind control drugs, sends him off on kill switch and, with the aid of one or two CIA shooters who scarper into the confusion after letting off a few shots, leave him to be arrested and take the fall with no idea or memory as to what he has done.

or, the very best one

c- Some massacres never happened, instead employing the services of a collaborative and willing left wing media and "crisis actors" to portray the relatives of non existent victims "murdered" by a gunman who also never existed.

Pre 9/11 conspiracy theories like JFK, Diana's car accident, the TWA flight off Long Island, that Pope who died suddenly, where the alleged protagonists actually had, you know, like, a probable motive, for the plot? I've not seen one in years.

Aside from all of that, it beggars belief how many people believe fast food chain urban legends.

"McDonald's and Supermacs advertise using 100% pure Irish beef because they buy muck from a company called 100% pure Irish beef"

So what is it? Flavored, dried out compacted turf speed grilled?

Even worse is the amount of people who believe KFC use genetically altered multiple legged, featherless chickens.

The ironic thing is that most of these alternative discount food sources would likely cost more to source than plain old cuts of beef and chicken.

toxicity234 · 11-06-2014 10:38AM

danniemcq wrote: »

Nope it's true, heard it a few months ago I'll try and find a link now

Edit for link
http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201307030003

There are other people saying the same and other sources but trying to walk a dog and search is a nightmare!

How old are these people and can we put them down yet??

Azwaldo55 · 11-06-2014 10:40AM

The most ridiculous argument I ever heard was ten years ago when morons were opposed to overthrowing Saddam.
People were supposedly progressive, democratic, liberal, pro-human rights, pro-gay rights, pro-women's rights etc etc marching in the street in OPPOSITION to the overthrow of a dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people.
Utterly insane.

danniemcq · 11-06-2014 10:42AM

toxicity234 wrote: »

How old are these people and can we put them down yet??

I'd be more in favour of letting them spout their nonsense (heh brasseye)

Think about it if they did use a decent argument against gay marraige (i can't think of any to use as an example) then people on the fence or even people who would be kinda in their favour would support them.

When they come out with stuff like this though it destroys their arguments and makes them a laughing stock from the majority of people. This in turn will turn those who as I mentioned above to the other side.

Sometimes idiots on the opposition are your greatest advantage

Sunglasses Ron · 11-06-2014 10:44AM

toxicity234 wrote: »

How old are these people and can we put them down yet??

Why?

They don't have a right to an opinion, or to repeat the facts of a case heard in a court of law because you don't like it? You support the imprisonment and, it would seem, execution of those who hold an opposing, non violent political or societal viewpoint?

Sunglasses Ron · 11-06-2014 10:47AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

The most ridiculous argument I ever heard was ten years ago when morons were opposed to overthrowing Saddam.
People were supposedly progressive, democratic, liberal, pro-human rights, pro-gay rights, pro-women's rights etc etc marching in the street in OPPOSITION to the overthrow of a dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people.
Utterly insane.

It was more of an in- thing than anything.

The fact is, the Irish never warmed to Bush, dating from before his election. Ireland loved Clinton, Gore was his natural successor, and from there on in he would never be liked.

Even British newspapers who were on the record as being anti war printed the "60 second launch capability" claims and all the rest of it as if they were unopposed fact.

JeffKenna · 11-06-2014 10:51AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

The most ridiculous argument I ever heard was ten years ago when morons were opposed to overthrowing Saddam.
People were supposedly progressive, democratic, liberal, pro-human rights, pro-gay rights, pro-women's rights etc etc marching in the street in OPPOSITION to the overthrow of a dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people.
Utterly insane.

Ah the good old weapons of mass destruction, whatever happened to them?

Azwaldo55 · 11-06-2014 10:52AM

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

It was more of an in- thing than anything.

The fact is, the Irish never warmed to Bush, dating from before his election. Ireland loved Clinton, Gore was his natural successor, and from there on in he would never be liked.

Even British newspapers who were on the record as being anti war printed the "60 second launch capability" claims and all the rest of it as if they were unopposed fact.

Don't get me wrong. They made a total mess after the fall of Baghdad but the idea of getting rid of the evil fascist SOB was fundamentally sound.
I never believed the WMD claims. I wanted Saddam gone and people were looking at me like I had two heads when I said Saddam should go.
If Gore had been elected I think he would have done something about Saddam and he would have been adored by the Irish public.
Bizarre how people can't actually think for themselves.

Lou.m · 11-06-2014 10:53AM

Originally Posted by mrkiscool2 View Post
I argued with two female feminists

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Destined to fail before you began.

This is a stupid argument.

Curly Judge · 11-06-2014 10:53AM

Renewable energy will save the planet.
It's right up there with the guy standing on the grassy knoll!

Azwaldo55 · 11-06-2014 10:55AM

JeffKenna wrote: »

Ah the good old weapons of mass destruction, whatever happened to them?

I never believed the WMD bullsh*t because it was irrelevant anyway. Saddam was himself the weapon of mass destruction - he murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people. He needed to go. I don't care who overthrew him. Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, Russia or the U.S. He needed to go full stop. The morons who opposed the invasion didn't give a sh*t about Iraqis and since the Yanks pulled out they still don't give a sh*t. It was all pure anti-Americanism. They never gave a damn when Russia invaded Chechyna or Georgia and there are NO protests over Russian interference in Ukraine or Chinese brutality in Tibet. Can you imagine how mad things would be today if Saddam was still alive?

JeffKenna · 11-06-2014 11:07AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

I never believed the WMD bullsh*t because it was irrelevant anyway. Saddam was himself the weapon of mass destruction - he murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people. He needed to go. I don't care who overthrew him. Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, Russia or the U.S. He needed to go full stop. The morons who opposed the invasion didn't give a sh*t about Iraqis and since the Yanks pulled out they still don't give a sh*t. It was all pure anti-Americanism. They never gave a damn when Russia invaded Chechyna or Georgia and there are NO protests over Russian interference in Ukraine or Chinese brutality in Tibet. Can you imagine how mad things would be today if Saddam was still alive?

You surely don't believe that world super powers can just go in and invade a country based on lies? Where is the proof of these hundreds of thousands of people that he murdered? More lies? I do realise he murdered people but any figure I heard has not come close to the number of dead following the invasion and the mess the country has been in since.

Lou.m · 11-06-2014 11:24AM

Wow this thread is bringing all the crazy out!

danniemcq · 11-06-2014 11:24AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

I never believed the WMD bullsh*t because it was irrelevant anyway. Saddam was himself the weapon of mass destruction - he murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people. He needed to go. I don't care who overthrew him. Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, Russia or the U.S. He needed to go full stop. The morons who opposed the invasion didn't give a sh*t about Iraqis and since the Yanks pulled out they still don't give a sh*t. It was all pure anti-Americanism. They never gave a damn when Russia invaded Chechyna or Georgia and there are NO protests over Russian interference in Ukraine or Chinese brutality in Tibet. Can you imagine how mad things would be today if Saddam was still alive?

The issue was never that he wasn't a bad man, that went without saying.

The main issue was we were told lies to start a war. People knew this and didn't want it to happen.

If they wanted they could have said this guy is a dictator and we are going to overthrow him for democracy but then they would also have to do the same to many of their allies and not only them but also Governments that wouldn't have been as easy a walk over as Iraq was.

Sunglasses Ron · 11-06-2014 11:32AM

danniemcq wrote: »

The issue was never that he wasn't a bad man, that went without saying.

The main issue was we were told lies to start a war. People knew this and didn't want it to happen.

If they wanted they could have said this guy is a dictator and we are going to overthrow him for democracy but then they would also have to do the same to many of their allies and not only them but also Governments that wouldn't have been as easy a walk over as Iraq was.

I honestly think Bush believed he was a clear and present threat to at least some extent and feared him aligning with Al Qaeda. (Stranger alliances have occurred in the past- Nazi Germany aligned with everyone from Russian communists, Japanese imperialists and Arabs. All three regarded as inferior races, and communism regarded as much as a threat to Germany as Jewish economic power).

Blair, on the other hand, I don't think he gave a f'uck whether Saddam had weapons or not. A successful war for democracy would have been the icing on the cake for the retirement legacy he was so concerned.

Of course, it didn't go so well and in 50 years he will even outrank Thatcher by a mile as the most awful PM Britain ever had (the primary difference being that whilst Brits either loved or loathed Thatcher, and in the south at least she was even admired by a sizable chunk of the working class, pretty much nobody outside of the business classes has any positive thought about Blair)

What's the most ridiculous argument you've ever heard??

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