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!!! Warning to TV Licence Inspectors !!!

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  • #272
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    riclad wrote: »
    NO need to remove the tuner,
    tv is now all digital,
    no tv is broadcast on uhf frequency.
    VHF is used for cable tv, if you have no digital box unit.


    BUT if you are using cable tv,
    upc, etc then you have to pay a tv licence anyway.
    Not sure what you are getting at here. If you have an old tv and no saorview or upc etc and never watch and cannot watch TV on it then you still have to pay the licence. As I quoted just before your post.
    As the analogue television service is switched off, your analogue television set needs a set-top box to receive digital television. Your analogue television set, with or without a set-top box, still requires a television licence.


  • #273
    wobzilla1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭wobzilla1


    Basically I have an LCD TV that I picked up cheap as it was broken and I fixed it up myself.
    I have no intention of watching TV and have no satellite box or anything.
    I basically use it as a glorified monitor. It just has the laptop, wii and ps2 connected.

    I wouldn't really class the tuner as repairable as I didn't just de-solder it, I cut the part of the PCB out as well.


  • #274
    uncle_sam_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    What is the law in Ireland regarding a TV inspector entering your house even with a warrant?
    This is what happened in the UK when they tried it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRQTkOk__48 and it turns out an Act is not the same as a law and they failed to enter(really enjoyed watching this).
    If you don't have a TV and they demand entry, isn't it saying that you're a liar and we need to find us some evidence because at the moment we have nothing. Do we live in a country were we are all guilty and have to prove that were not?

    Maybe I should ask this question in the Law forum.


  • #275
    riclad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    MAybe remove the sat dish lnb, disconnect the cable,from the dish,to ensure it ,s
    obviously no longer used by tv to recieve fta channel,s


  • #276
    riclad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    IF i had an analog tv , with no tv service , i,d give it away on adverts.ie free.
    Obviously the law was made when any tv could recieve tv, over the air ,
    thru uhf aerials.
    ITS easy to go ,up a ladder ,remove lnb, with a philips screwdriver and pliers ,remove the satellite cable from the dish.
    Then its longer possible to recieve any tv signal from the dish.


    http://www.ehow.com/how_8259638_remove-lnbf.html

    Many old houses have dishes, on them, put there by the previous resident,
    not connected to any device.
    HE may suspect you have a freesat of old sky box,
    can be used to recieved free to air channels, itv, bbc etc

    OR maybe let the inspector see , there is no tv in the building.


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  • #277
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    uncle_sam_ie wrote: »
    What is the law in Ireland regarding a TV inspector entering your house even with a warrant?
    This is what happened in the UK when they tried it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRQTkOk__48 and it turns out an Act is not the same as a law and they failed to enter(really enjoyed watching this).
    If you don't have a TV and they demand entry, isn't it saying that you're a liar and we need to find us some evidence because at the moment we have nothing. Do we live in a country were we are all guilty and have to prove that were not?

    Maybe I should ask this question in the Law forum.

    I assume you would have the let the garda in if he had a warrant? Im waiting for one to come around so Im hoping I can just leave the prick outside while the garda has a quick look.


  • #278
    uncle_sam_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    I assume you would have the let the garda in if he had a warrant? Im waiting for one to come around so Im hoping I can just leave the prick outside while the garda has a quick look.

    Here is what happened with a warrant and the Garda in Ireland. Nothing to do with TV inspector though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpUjl4LvQM8


  • #279
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo




    Does refusing ''implied consent'' work in ireland???


  • #280
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    uncle_sam_ie wrote: »
    Here is what happened with a warrant and the Garda in Ireland. Nothing to do with TV inspector though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpUjl4LvQM8
    There's a Freeman nonsense thread more suited for this.


  • #281
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #282
    branie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭branie


    Power to the people!


  • #283
    Galway K9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    They only "disturb you" if you haven't paid your licence... so pay your bill like the rest of us and you will never see them again.

    No, everyone who paid are just sheep that don't mind paying rte its over paid wages and biased news. Also ads or license....not both.


  • #284
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Thanks fred i shall using this for non criminal matters in future.


  • #285
    Galway K9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    c_man wrote: »
    I agree. Thank god for AH.

    Oh yes, AH is much better lol


  • #286
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,030 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    uncle_sam_ie wrote: »
    Here is what happened with a warrant and the Garda in Ireland. Nothing to do with TV inspector though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpUjl4LvQM8

    Yep, makes sense to try force a man out of his home when there is 1 sheriff and two gardai vs 30+ people. You know how that story finished. A riot van full of gardai showed up at his house in the early morning a month later and he was evicted with force.


  • #287
    uncle_sam_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    Yep, makes sense to try force a man out of his home when there is 1 sheriff and two gardai vs 30+ people. You know how that story finished. A riot van full of gardai showed up at his house in the early morning a month later and he was evicted with force.

    So what you are saying is, if I don't allow a TV inspector into my home to search for some evidence the gardai will show up in force a month later in the early morning and break down my door?


  • #288
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    Yep, makes sense to try force a man out of his home when there is 1 sheriff and two gardai vs 30+ people. You know how that story finished. A riot van full of gardai showed up at his house in the early morning a month later and he was evicted with force.
    And Ben is in and out of court regularly.


  • #289
    wobzilla1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭wobzilla1


    rubadub wrote: »
    its repairable so you need a licence.

    I can't seem to find any mention of this in the broadcasting act.

    I received a "Final notice of legal proceedings" and just sent them an email saying that my "television" is not defined as a television under section 140 of the act and I am willing to show an inspector.


  • #290
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    wobzilla1 wrote: »
    I can't seem to find any mention of this in the broadcasting act.

    I received a "Final notice of legal proceedings" and just sent them an email saying that my "television" is not defined as a television under section 140 of the act and I am willing to show an inspector.

    You can expect this to be tested in court. The 2009 Act is primarily about the regulation of brodcasting but it does incorporate all previous Wireless and Telegraphy Acts starting in 1926. The 1988 version is where you could look for material which you could interpret as being either in your favour or likely to go against you. In the end only a court can decide and you certainly should not rely and anything you read on Boards purporting to be legal advice, including from me.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1988/en/act/pub/0019/print.html#sec2


  • #291
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    uncle_sam_ie wrote: »
    So what you are saying is, if I don't allow a TV inspector into my home to search for some evidence the gardai will show up in force a month later in the early morning and break down my door?
    No, they'll at least be some intermediate steps. The inspector may come back, this time accompanied by a Guard with a warrant. If you then deny the warrant-carrying Guard access, things will escalate.


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  • #292
    miss no stars
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    No, everyone who paid are just sheep that don't mind paying rte its over paid wages and biased news. Also ads or license....not both.

    I was going to say that if everyone who has a TV paid their license RTE wouldn't need to generate income from advertising and the cost of the license might be lower, plus with a more easily guaranteed income they might make better TV.


    Then I remembered I was talking about RTE and we're in Ireland... :rolleyes:


  • #293
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    No Pants wrote: »
    No, they'll at least be some intermediate steps. The inspector may come back, this time accompanied by a Guard with a warrant. If you then deny the warrant-carrying Guard access, things will escalate.

    Dont think irish guards ever accompany tv inspectors it may happen in england but not in ireland.


  • #294
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #295
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    It takes awhile to get a warrant. I've been waiting since the week before the last bank holiday. I suppose the gardai have more important people to search in limerick city than the guy who may be lying about not having a TV.


  • #296
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    no_callers_sticker.gif

    Sorted.


  • #297
    Titzon Toast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    No Pants wrote: »
    No, they'll at least be some intermediate steps. The inspector may come back, this time accompanied by a Guard with a warrant. If you then deny the warrant-carrying Guard access, things will escalate.

    The chances of that happening are slim at best though.
    The Guards are stretched thin as it is already without going around serving warrants on potential tv licence dodgers.


  • #298
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Titzon Toast wrote: »
    The chances of that happening are slim at best though.
    The Guards are stretched thin as it is already without going around serving warrants on potential tv licence dodgers.
    Maybe. Maybe not. All those people who end up in jail for an hour or two for not paying the fine make their way through the process somehow. My statement was in response to the chap who asked if his house would be raided by armed Gardai if he turned away the licence inspector.


  • #299
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #300
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I appreciate your advice fred you seem to know your stuff but i doubt kildare gardai will do this,Its near impossible to get them to attend public disturbances/shop lifting etc in kildare newbridge and naas.


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  • #301
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I think people are misunderstanding. The Gardaí with the warrant won;t be there to check for a tv. They'll be there to cart you to prison for failing to pay a court fine.


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