Sky introduce new encryption system to combat piracy (HD Channels have began switch)

STB wrote: »

Whatever about the UKTV channels, the ITV 2/3/4 HD channels were the subject of a "non exclusive" arrangement initially only available on Sky, which are now also available with Virgin Cable. They are still part of an arrangement that they are interested in promoting as part of their package, given they are not part of Freesat. Nobody is interested in this content from a piracy perspective as it is not premium content.

I would counter that it is more about Sky making their premium content secure. If BT gets less subs through CS as a result of non listing of that ID then it is not Sky's problem. After all there is no love lost.

Lets not forget BT has already lodged a complaint with Ofcom under the Competition Act, alleging that BSkyB is abusing its dominance to damage it as a rival.

All good points - but the highlighted bit applies to just about every channel apart from Sports (and maybe Movies & the high-end entertainment channels such as Sky1 and Atlantic)

I would still argue they are making their platform secure (as opposed to just their own channels) but, presumably, to switch channels over to the new system requires contractual consent.
As every other operator goes through Sky CS - even standalone subscription channels such as MUTV - this is implicit.

However, I assume it is because BT Sport operate as a separate entity (ie potential subscribers don't go through Sky) this is why they haven't been included. Having said that they obviously have a contract to be carried on the platform so you may well be right

TireeTerror wrote: »

Hmmm my €500 spent on my Vu+ Duo2 in December last year doesnt seem like such a great thing now, I cannot watch sporting events in SD, its awful on a 60" TV.

Gutted.

Pardon me if this is a stupid question. If you have a HD subscription why can't you watch them? Do you need to put card back into your Sky Box? I assume that you're not sharing cards as that's illegal and is not allowed and rightly so as I pay my subscription charges?

Woodie40 wrote: »

Pardon me if this is a stupid question. If you have a HD subscription why can't you watch them? Do you need to put card back into your Sky Box? I assume that you're not sharing cards as that's illegal and is not allowed and rightly so as I pay my subscription charges?

The Sky HD box is a crippled piece of crap. I didn't use it when I subscribed either.

The problem now for card sharers and people who have valid sky cards is that this change by sky prevents you from using a valid sky card in anything other than an official sky box. The advantages of being able to use a Sky card in something like a solo2 or duo2 box are great. Its much more than just a sky box. Of course you loose a few things like ondemand and 100% series link, but i'd trade that any day for the versatility the linux boxes of this world provide.

The annoying thing about sky is that they will charge you 28 euro for their 'basic' package which at the end of the day is just a bunch of free to air channels including the Irish stations. You could get the same with a VU box, combining a terrestrial tuner with a sat tuner, have a 7 day epg and be able to record programmes subscription free. So even if your box costs you 300 euro to buy and install, after 12 months it will have saved you the price of it from sky and you will be saving 30 euro a month after that..

The only downside to a setup like that is that its a bit more 'techy' to run and get setup and you need an internet connection to keep the 7 day epg up to date..

Woodie40 wrote: »

Pardon me if this is a stupid question. If you have a HD subscription why can't you watch them? Do you need to put card back into your Sky Box? I assume that you're not sharing cards as that's illegal and is not allowed and rightly so as I pay my subscription charges?

micks_address wrote: »

The problem now for card sharers and people who have valid sky cards is that this change by sky prevents you from using a valid sky card in anything other than an official sky box. The advantages of being able to use a Sky card in something like a solo2 or duo2 box are great. Its much more than just a sky box. Of course you loose a few things like ondemand and 100% series link, but i'd trade that any day for the versatility the linux boxes of this world provide.

The annoying thing about sky is that they will charge you 28 euro for their 'basic' package which at the end of the day is just a bunch of free to air channels including the Irish stations. You could get the same with a VU box, combining a terrestrial tuner with a sat tuner, have a 7 day epg and be able to record programmes subscription free. So even if your box costs you 300 euro to buy and install, after 12 months it will have saved you the price of it from sky and you will be saving 30 euro a month after that..

The only downside to a setup like that is that its a bit more 'techy' to run and get setup and you need an internet connection to keep the 7 day epg up to date..

No it doesn't

The Sky card will still be possible outside the Sky box - only HD channels will be inaccessible (apart from BT Sport it appears).

Hi all been reading all theses post.i have a skybox 5fs .got it just before xmas with gift.i still have all hd channels etc.nothing has been switched off for me yet.i updated box yesterday and everything is there and afew new channels.Maybe my time is near ,best i make the most of it lol

bluemachaveli wrote: »

Sky Sports 4 HD gone too!

radiowaves wrote: »

Back on topic

Sky Sports 4 HD
Sky Movies Comedy HD
Sky Movies Action & Adventure HD

have now been switched over

dobbs2210 wrote: »

Not very techy, but I'm the same, my Sky sports 4, sky sports news is gone as well. Anyway I can get them back.

There are many channels gone mate - see an earlier post for full list

The point of the above was that Sky Sports 4 went last Thursday and not today

Djcgamble wrote: »

Think this week will see most of the changeover my rte2 hd is not clearing either.

RTÉ Two HD hasn't been switched

If you got a combo box you would never be at the mercy of Sly for your rte needs. Instead it can be tuned in of the UHF aerial.

All the sports channels will probably be encrypted by Thursday which is the start of the world cup.

micks_address wrote: »

Well for me i wouldnt want Sky unless i could get the HD channels but thats personal preference..

That is fair and understandable but is not what you said in your post

micks_address wrote: »

The problem now for card sharers and people who have valid sky cards is that this change by sky prevents you from using a valid sky card in anything other than an official sky box. .

I was just correcting a misleading error

darren3o wrote: »

Hi all been reading all theses post.i have a skybox 5fs .got it just before xmas with gift.i still have all hd channels etc.nothing has been switched off for me yet.i updated box yesterday and everything is there and afew new channels.Maybe my time is near ,best i make the most of it lol

That's because you have a sky box - nothing will switch off on you.