Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Neeson · 08-06-2014 03:37PM

Fantastic performance. 4th no bother.

km79 · 08-06-2014 03:42PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

I don't think COS is having too bad of a game, I'd take off DOC before him

CF is the pivot of the attack. Mayo were absolutely rudderless in attack . Is have taken him off after 20 minutes to be honest.
Was Horan trying to prove some point of a point to more established players picking thy half forward line ? If so he got away with it. Personally I don't think so and his decision making on the line and team selection is extremely extremely worrying ......
Got out of jail but a bit like donegal the year after they WON the AI mayo players look leggy .......hopefully it's over training and not listineing to the same voice for too long.
God bless Cillian . He was our only forward.
Who will start CF next game ? Andy Moran who had a poor league and was deemed good enough to start ? Alan Dillon who has played damn all and was poor when came on?
COS who was the man selected today?
Too many questions . Questions that shud have been answered in the league.
Worried

nice_guy80 · 08-06-2014 03:50PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

5 mins of injury, where did that come from?

Are you an idiot with mayo tinted glasses?

Donie Shine was down injured for at least 4 minutes

Loafing Oaf · 08-06-2014 03:52PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Are you an idiot with mayo tinted glasses?

No, just an idiot...

Da Shins Kelly · 08-06-2014 03:53PM

Jesus. Calm down.

km79 · 08-06-2014 03:53PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Are you an idiot with mayo tinted glasses?

Donie Shine was down injured for at least 4 minutes

I wish more refs would play a realistic amount of "added" time .........there was defo 5 minutes in it today due to the injuries.
There was also at least 5 in the AI final last year but not due to obvious injuries like today ........

nobody told me · 08-06-2014 04:03PM

What's the idea of playing one of the best wing backs in the country at centre back?

SeanJ09 · 08-06-2014 04:04PM

Worried by that Mayo performance. Attack was utterly purposeless. Constantly carrying the ball into the tackle, poor shot selection etc.. Horan's half forward line pick proved to be a disaster. Apart from Jason Doc's early point, can't recall any of the three contributing anything. I would't be confident if any of those 3 started a championship game again for Mayo this season. So that's a whole unit of our team that is completely in a hoop at the minute. I would put Dillion, K. Mcloughlin and A.Moran in there for the Connacht final due to lack of other quality options.

Cosmo Kramer · 08-06-2014 04:15PM

Fair play to Roscommon, at least they came with a plan. They only get a crack at us once every two or three years in Dr Hyde Park and need to make it count because they seem beaten before they take the field against us in McHale Park. The plan might have been to play anti-football and drain the game of almost any level of skill but at least it was a plan - it didn't seem like we had one.

Ros tried to drag us down to their level to make it a 50/50 game in trying conditions and hope it was their day - it almost worked. The game was a lot like the 2011 and 2012 Connacht finals, we struggled over the line on those two days as well. We really need to set up to deal better with these types of games because if its Sligo in the final they'll try it again and one of these days we'll get picked off in a match like this.

Its easy to be wise afterwards but this was the wrong game to throw in the younger O'Connor and O'Sheas. I wouldn't be against one of them getting another run in the final if it is Galway in Castlebar. If it is Sligo somewhere other than Castlebar I'd go with a more experienced half forward line.

kupus · 08-06-2014 04:54PM

Fair play to ross, they missed shine when he went off, then their fouling contributed to their downfall. They could have won it and will be disappointed im sure.

Mayo mayo mayo, yet again i watch a game not happy with their performance, and its being that way since the start of the league.
Michael sweeney has being the only shining light and he cant even get a start.

Center half forwards are not doing their job. CHbacks are straying forward too much taking up the slack from the forwards not doing their jobs and midfield are consistently running into problems. Leaving gaping holes thru the middle for goals to be scored.
lucky mayo do not have the same qualifing as ulster teams and the level they have to get to to be ulster champions....where most teams are banana skins waiting to happen.

One of the o sheas needs to be sacrificed, and a more skillful midfielder with good ball carrying skills but where is there one. forwards need to start doing their jobs and if not replaced. tiipy tappy pussy footing around should not even be contemplated. We have wing full forwards who are fast so utilise them instead of ignoring them.

Panrich · 08-06-2014 05:08PM

Really think we are undercooked this year and Horan has gambled on getting out of Connacht before stepping on the gas. Last year we looked like champions in May, June and July. Once we annihilated Donegal we were over the top and never hit those heights again.

km79 · 08-06-2014 05:10PM

Panrich wrote: »

Really think we are undercooked this year and Horan has gambled on getting out of Connacht before stepping on the gas. Last year we looked like champions in May, June and July. Once we annihilated Donegal we were over the top and never hit those heights again.

This is what I'm telling myself.
Does not explain the team selection though .....

Panrich · 08-06-2014 05:26PM

km79 wrote: »

This is what I'm telling myself.
Does not explain the team selection though .....

Admittedly it could be that the legs have gone and that's just as plausible looking at the performances against 14 man Dublin and Derry

blinding · 08-06-2014 05:32PM

If we can win every game they might give us the All-Ireland.

Loafing Oaf · 08-06-2014 05:32PM

km79 wrote: »

Sweeney deserves a run second half.big goal threat.
I don't and won't ever understand how Conor o Shea got a start today

Well you'd have to think there's a rationale for it, Horan is not the guy to do things like that on a whim. I guess you'd say if we're gonna win an All-Ireland we need a top-class no. 11 and if one isn't jumping out at him then maybe he has to gamble in an 'unlosable' game.

km79 · 08-06-2014 05:37PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Well you'd have to think there's a rationale for it, Horan is not the guy to do things like that on a whim. I guess you'd say if we're gonna win an All-Ireland we need a top-class no. 11 and if one isn't jumping out at him then maybe he has to gamble in an 'unlosable' game.

Completely agree. So why did he not try it in the league ?

Loafing Oaf · 08-06-2014 05:43PM

km79 wrote: »

Completely agree. So why did he not try it in the league ?

Dunno, maybe the COS at no. 11 is a brainwave he's only had in the last few weeks.

km79 · 08-06-2014 05:48PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Dunno, maybe the COS at no. 11 is a brainwave he's only had in the last few weeks.

That's what I'm afraid of! He has had since last September (or sept 12) to think about it!
I can't predict 4 of our 6 starting forwards for the Connaught finals due to poor displays. That scares me

Oldtree · 08-06-2014 08:11PM

Love the excitement of a close run thing... But

All those wides still plaguing us, seemed to me to be just like after conor mort left and the same thing happened in Roscommon.
Midfield looked sluggish on the return to defend.
A lot of pass the parcel with no one taking control in the forwards till Dillon came on, but in fairness he was very fresh.
We lost a lot of ball to it being slapped out of the hand.
Far too relaxed for the first 3/4 of the game.

Nonetheless, good solid kickouts and some lovely moments of flair.

Need to come at the next one screaming or we wont be worrying anyone who watches the match.

homewardbound11 · 08-06-2014 08:23PM

Can anyone explain our lack of dominance at mid field. Very few clean catches . Poor at the breaking ball . Of which Roscommon were good . And constantly our knockouts went to the same troubled areas . I can understand the collapse in the half forward but this mid field was proven to work . Very worried. Also horan really is questionable on not making the morN and Dillon changes earlier. If we had lost it, we would be calling for heads. It was clear 15 minutes in so the changes should have came by half time.

MaroonAndGreen · 08-06-2014 08:36PM

A win is a win. Quite proud we won playing poorly, previous Mayo teams would have wilted.

Backs and keeper were good in my opinion. Cant complain. Though we didnt see as much incisive forward running from the half backs as we usually do. But that was part of our defensive solidity too.

I actually thought Cillian had a good game in the forwards as did McLoughlin.

Never seen Freeman as anonymous to be honest, we need him at his best if we are going to have a good crack at it this year, he has to improve.

Big mention for Andy Moran. Came on and stood up when he was really needed.

Great championship win.

naughto · 08-06-2014 08:44PM

whats this all about
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/gavin-duffy-mayo-roscommon-1505911-Jun2014/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Cosmo Kramer · 08-06-2014 08:51PM

homewardbound11 wrote: »

Can anyone explain our lack of dominance at mid field. Very few clean catches . Poor at the breaking ball . Of which Roscommon were good . And constantly our knockouts went to the same troubled areas . I can understand the collapse in the half forward but this mid field was proven to work . Very worried. Also horan really is questionable on not making the morN and Dillon changes earlier. If we had lost it, we would be calling for heads. It was clear 15 minutes in so the changes should have came by half time.

McLoughlin when on form is some man for picking up breaking ball around the middle. He can't do that if he's picked at 13 though because he needs to stay inside to cover short kick outs. As a result we won little breaking ball today which was always going to be a factor in wet conditions. Generally a wet day on a bad pitch like we had today doesnt suit us at all, it is no co-incidence that we have a long record of bad performances at Dr Hyde Park. Hopefully McLoughlin gets moved back into the half forward line, maybe give Sweeney a start in the corner in the Connacht final.

MaroonAndGreen · 08-06-2014 09:48PM

A win is a win. Quite proud we won playing poorly, previous Mayo teams would have wilted.

Backs and keeper were good in my opinion. Cant complain. Though we didnt see as much incisive forward running from the half backs as we usually do. But that was part of our defensive solidity too.

I actually thought Cillian had a good game in the forwards as did McLoughlin.

Never seen Freeman as anonymous to be honest, we need him at his best if we are going to have a good crack at it this year, he has to improve.

Big mention for Andy Moran. Came on and stood up when he was really needed.

Great championship win.

Fr Tod Umptious · 08-06-2014 09:54PM

naughto wrote: »

whats this all about
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/gavin-duffy-mayo-roscommon-1505911-Jun2014/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

It's all about nothing

It's a side show

There are far more important problems to be things going on in Mayo football than worrying about some 30 something year old retired rugby player, 12 years out of football

naughto · 08-06-2014 10:08PM

He has to be worth 10 mins in a game even if its in midfield to catch the ball and lay it off.

Blackjack · 08-06-2014 10:13PM

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

McLoughlin when on form is some man for picking up breaking ball around the middle. He can't do that if he's picked at 13 though because he needs to stay inside to cover short kick outs. As a result we won little breaking ball today which was always going to be a factor in wet conditions. Generally a wet day on a bad pitch like we had today doesnt suit us at all, it is no co-incidence that we have a long record of bad performances at Dr Hyde Park. Hopefully McLoughlin gets moved back into the half forward line, maybe give Sweeney a start in the corner in the Connacht final.

This. To be fair, McLoughlin did drop back and when he did, we started picking up the dirty ball, which he does truly excel at.

Thought Keegan was a bit off the pace today. Freeman was really nowhere to be seen today either. The new form Half forward line didn't work out from what I can see, but at least its been tried and can hopefully be put to bed.
When Dillon and Moran came on, their experience was what really brought is into a position to win it.
Was it just me or was Boyle taking a lot of high tackles today?. I saw a lot of arm around his neck during the game that went unpunished from what I could see. Admittedly mine is not an entirely unbiased view, I thought there were a few times he was unfortunate not to have won frees.

We got a little lucky today, however that's no harm. A lot of people were asking for a tough encounter and as much as Roscommon can feel that they left it behind them, it was good to see us come from behind, play badly and still win. Odd to see Spillane suggest that we had "character" but oddly enough Brolly suggested that's only clichéd nonsense. I've never bought into that stuff myself personally.

blinding · 08-06-2014 10:18PM

I think that Roscommon were hard to beat today.

So I am happy enough to come away from home with a win.

Some of the young guys got a run out in a competitive championship match. Like I said its nice to win these games.

MaroonAndGreen · 08-06-2014 10:20PM

Blackjack wrote: »

This. To be fair, McLoughlin did drop back and when he did, we started picking up the dirty ball, which he does truly excel at.

Thought Keegan was a bit off the pace today. Freeman was really nowhere to be seen today either. The new form Half forward line didn't work out from what I can see, but at least its been tried and can hopefully be put to bed.
When Dillon and Moran came on, their experience was what really brought is into a position to win it.
Was it just me or was Boyle taking a lot of high tackles today?. I saw a lot of arm around his neck during the game that went unpunished from what I could see. Admittedly mine is not an entirely unbiased view, I thought there were a few times he was unfortunate not to have won frees.

We got a little lucky today, however that's no harm. A lot of people were asking for a tough encounter and as much as Roscommon can feel that they left it behind them, it was good to see us come from behind, play badly and still win. Odd to see Spillane suggest that we had "character" but oddly enough Brolly suggested that's only clichéd nonsense. I've never bought into that stuff myself personally.

Its not clichéd. Its fair to say Mayo do have character, alot of teams would have lost that game, and alot of previous Mayo teams would have lost and have lost them kind of games in the past. This side definitely has character and we've seen it alot in the Horan reign.

This team has come from behind alot under Horan, think of Cork in 2011 after conceding 2 early goals, even in the 2012 final v Donegal we made a good comeback and showed character after the difficult start, the Tyrone semi-final last year and of course, today!

I think that takes character and there are some boys in our team that have bundles of it, look at the fight in Caff, Boyle, Vaughan, the 2 O'Sheas, Cillian, Andy etc today even though it was going wrong and we were playing poorly, them boys had it in them to pull it back. Not every team can do that or has them kind of characters!

Blackjack · 08-06-2014 10:24PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Its not clichéd. Its fair to say Mayo do have character, alot of teams would have lost that game, and alot of previous Mayo teams would have lost and have lost them kind of games in the past. This side definitely has character and we've seen it alot in the Horan reign.

This team has come from behind alot under Horan, think of Cork in 2011 after conceding 2 early goals, even in the 2012 final v Donegal we made a good comeback and showed character after the difficult start, the Tyrone semi-final last year and of course, today!

I think that takes character and there are some boys in our team that have bundles of it, look at the fight in Caff, Boyle, Vaughan, the 2 O'Sheas, Cillian, Andy etc today even though it was going wrong and we were playing poorly, them boys had it in them to pull it back. Not every team can do that or has them kind of characters!

Perhaps. I just feel that this "Mental Strength" and "Character" stuff is all too often trotted out as reasons we lose finals. Whats probably most odd that it's being referred to as clichéd nonsense once someone suggests that Mayo has it for a change!.

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