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Vodafone phones tapped

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    No use for'em on me. I only make phonecalls to arrange meeting up with people. Sure there's GPS on the phone for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭hairyprincess


    Jeepers they would have a fairly boring time listening to my conversations;

    Me: "did you put the bin out?"
    Him: "no I'll do it now"
    Me: "I'm going to shave my legs now"
    Him: "ok I'll call back in four hours"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    They can't tap my carrier pigeon!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I left Vodafone ten years ago and "lawful intercept" was common knowledge then. It was part of the licence conditions iirc.

    The gizmo that did it was locked away in secure parts of the switch and only a handful of people were authorised to enter, even to carry out routine maintenance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Quite a few EU countries won't allow you to buy a SIM or phone without providing a copy of your national ID card or passport either. Try getting a simple SIM card in Spain for example.

    I think at times Europeans are very critical of the US without looking at their own setups too.

    Too much data slurping is being done just because it's technically easily done with digital technology.

    If someone suggested photocopying the post, there would be uproar but if it's electronic that's grand apparently.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    "Is this line secure?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Calls can be monitored.
    SMS can be read.
    Internet connection can have the visited IP addresses traced.
    Locations can be determined (without GPS).

    All this can & is done by all operators since day 1.

    It just gets worse when governments stick their snouts in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    "Is this line secure?"

    Not only secure but comes with a handy backup service in case you ever forget what you said!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Always operate under this very simple concept

    if they can do it, they will do it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,652 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    In before the "I have nothing to hide so I don't mind" knobheads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭Wossack


    call me back on the pay phone down the street


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    In before the "I have nothing to hide so I don't mind" knobheads.

    except for their knobheads, obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    at this stage is everybody who uses a mobile phone "known to the guards?"


  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is News?...

    There have been cases through the courts were is came out that the Guards were monitoring calls etc and tracking the location of various people 'known to the Guards' by their mobile phones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Bring back eircell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 jaykay12


    Tow wrote: »
    This is News?...

    There have been cases through the courts were is came out that the Guards were monitoring calls etc and tracking the location of various people 'known to the Guards' by their mobile phones.

    "Various people known to the Guards" implies a warrant was sought, and granted, and they were then put under surveillance.

    Hugely different to what's been revealed here, which is without warrant, completely in secret and likely open to a lot of abuse.

    And yes, it is news - although we've suspected it, it's never been confirmed by a company involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    In before the "I have nothing to hide so I don't mind" knobheads.
    In before the "Big Brother is just around the corner" knobheads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    It's a sad day when even mobile phones are getting some action and I'll be in bed alone tonight spooning my pillow. Fml


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Don't let yourselves be fooled that only Vodafone are doing this. If this is happening in Vodafone, then it's happening in every other carrier too. Don't be surprised to see this escalate over the next few weeks as more operators speak out about it and national parliaments start revealing information about hundreds of thousands of warrants and wiretaps on mobile phones.

    Vodafone seem to be just putting their heads above the parapet in an attempt to twist the arms of the lawmakers by rounding public opinion against them.

    I wonder what their end-goal is? Maybe they're just pissed off at the amount of resources this kind of activity consumes. Or maybe by being the first operator to out this before it became public, they can look like the good guys. The EU has already shown that it's not tolerant of spying and surveillance activities, so Vodafone might just be trying to surf the wave of public opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    In before the "I have nothing to hide so I don't mind" knobheads.

    Set up your own telecommunications network so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    This thread has reminded me of the excellent TV series The Wire. Simpler times :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,121 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    This thread has reminded me of the excellent TV series The Wire. Simpler times :)

    Funny, i just finished the first Season of it last night (for the first time), and it really didn't make me want to continue... Not as great as everyone makes out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Bring back eircell.

    And Esat Digifone too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    is there some reason why the state should nt be able to access the communications of people involved in criminal activities?
    drug dealers gangsters terrorists bankers etc ?
    i assume there would be no one bothering with the ordinary joe soaps phone


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Next somebody will be telling me that boards.ie PMs are monitored :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    is there some reason why the state should nt be able to access the communications of people involved in criminal activities?
    drug dealers gangsters terrorists bankers etc ?
    i assume there would be no one bothering with the ordinary joe soaps phone

    If the state suspects people of crime, they should get a warrant.

    This is about a free for all access tapping phones.
    As we've seen, letting the cops away with no oversight, hasn't been great with Donegal,
    Kerry babies,
    Whistleblower
    Smithwick tribunal etc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    and if they have a warrant thats ok by you is it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    If the state suspects people of crime, they should get a warrant.

    From memory, although the ability to listen to calls is there and in place, it's use does require a warrant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    I'm on Vodafone and as in a lot of my family.

    What does this mean for me? People are listening to my phone calls?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I'm on Vodafone and as in a lot of my family.

    What does this mean for me? People are listening to my phone calls?
    It means The Man knows all about your sordid little plan to meet your friends at the pub at half eight. AND they have detailed notes on your past shopping sprees at Aldi and Lidl.

    Hard luck.


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