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UP TO DATE READERS ONLY *SERIOUSLY* Who would be your draw the line?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Littlefinger or Varys I'd miss the most, just because it would close off a lot of potential possibilities considering how devious he is. All the actual plotting so far stems from these two mainly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    Daith wrote: »
    Robb was loveable?

    Not in the books to be honest. The show paints him in a totally different picture imho. I've done a re-read recently and didn't realize how little time he is involved in the books.

    If Jaime was to die I'd be pissed off. I love a bit of redemption and he's showing that in abundance. For all that to be a waste of time would piss me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Jaime will die gloriously. It just seems so certain that he'll die to save Brienne or something similar...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Jaime will die gloriously. It just seems so certain that he'll die to save Brienne or something similar...

    Indeed he probably will to redeem his honor but not until the end.... in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TheGlass


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Jaime will die gloriously. It just seems so certain that he'll die to save Brienne or something similar...

    And then be brought back to life again as a shadow of himself :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Riamfada wrote: »
    Too many people expecting Jon Snow to come back. I have a feeling he won't be back.

    He will. Someone asked GRRM something assuming he was dead and he replied "Oh you think he's dead, do you?"

    Also another interview I was reading (this was after ADWD came out) he was asked something like of "how do you plan the arcs of every character". He replied along the lines of "I always knew what Neds arc was, and what Jon's will be" or something.

    Can't remember the exact wording but he's definitely not gone. I'd go as far as to say the story is based completely around him and Dany - Ice and Fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    Yeah GRRM definitely let slip that Jon isn't completely gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,402 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I think the Ramsey story needs some conclusion before Jon is finished. Personally I want him to hand Reek his masters head before he puts him out of his misery. I know it's not going to happen because Martin is set on redeeming Reek.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,247 ✭✭✭Daith


    I just want a direwolf to eat Walder Frey. Except he'll probably die while having sex with some young girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    What a poll..it has Jon Connington but not Stannis:pac:

    Stannis and Jon would be where I draw the line...for caring anyway...I'd read them but my heart wouldn't be in it. I could stand the loss of one of them I suppose but not both.

    I could handle Stannis going if Jon somehow becomes king, other than that I don't care who gets the IT...the other claimants...Euron, Dany, Aegon, Tommen..they would all be as bad as each other in their own way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    In fact I'd snap if Stannis dies. I'd hunt George down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    I'd say Stannis is certain to die. We all know he won't sit the throne at the end and he never gives up so it's the only logical conclusion.

    As much as I like Stannis I fear his role in ASOIAF was to introduce us to the lord of light and the concept of Azor Ahai - and to get Jon Snow and melisandre to meet. Now that we know Jon is Azor Ahai Stannis has pretty much run his course.

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Did I not put Stannis there? Ah. Meant to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    I'd say Stannis is certain to die. We all know he won't sit the throne at the end and he never gives up so it's the only logical conclusion.

    As much as I like Stannis I fear his role in ASOIAF was to introduce us to the lord of light and the concept of Azor Ahai - and to get Jon Snow and melisandre to meet. Now that we know Jon is Azor Ahai Stannis has pretty much run his course.

    :(

    We do?
    Actually wher d they talk about Azor Ahai as i must have missed it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,391 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Tyrion first with a toss up between Varys and Littlefinger, would be pissed if Arya dies too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭NickD


    I am genuinely concerned that George will be the next to die. I read an article where his agent has given the release date for WoW as Summer 2015, but so far she has only seen 184 pages of it. He is a damn slow writer. He is also not a young (or small) man. Is there a plan in place in case he dies? Has he writen the outline for the rest of the stories? Why is he being allowed to go to interviews and do appearances when the book isn't finished? Is someone monitoring his blood sugar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TheGlass


    NickD wrote: »
    I am genuinely concerned that George will be the next to die. I read an article where his agent has given the release date for WoW as Summer 2015, but so far she has only seen 184 pages of it. He is a damn slow writer. He is also not a young (or small) man. Is there a plan in place in case he dies? Has he writen the outline for the rest of the stories? Why is he being allowed to go to interviews and do appearances when the book isn't finished? Is someone monitoring his blood sugar?

    I hope he has more than 184 pages written, especially considering he had some parts written that was meant for ADWD but he decided to hold it back for WoW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    NickD wrote: »
    I am genuinely concerned that George will be the next to die. I read an article where his agent has given the release date for WoW as Summer 2015, but so far she has only seen 184 pages of it. He is a damn slow writer. He is also not a young (or small) man. Is there a plan in place in case he dies? Has he writen the outline for the rest of the stories? Why is he being allowed to go to interviews and do appearances when the book isn't finished? Is someone monitoring his blood sugar?

    He only had to submit those pages to satisfy a contractual clause and get his payment. This time last year he had over 400 or so pages done so he's up on that number by now.

    He said if he kicks the bucket; the books are done, nobody else is to finish it...the show will carry it on to the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭NickD


    Blay wrote: »
    He only had to submit those pages to satisfy a contractual clause and get his payment. This time last year he had 400 or so pages done so he's up on that number by now.

    He said if he kicks the bucket; the books are done, nobody else is to finish it...the show will carry it on to the end.

    That makes me feel better, I hadn't heard that he had 400 done was slightly freaking out. I am so worried he's gonna pop his clogs, and then I won't be able to chuckle at the non-book readers who declare their love for a character that I know is going to die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Blay wrote: »
    He said if he kicks the bucket; the books are done, nobody else is to finish it...the show will carry it on to the end.

    Ya, heard that too. His publishers might think differently though and carry it on.

    No Stannis in the pole, class! I am going to take that as a sign that our one true king will be around for a bit longer and hopefully survive the next book....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭celica00


    Does anyone actually know if there is a kind of a "back up" plan in case GRRM himself dies? Like would he have notes for someone to say: yeah this will be the ending, if I can't finish it, write it in a way so the ending will look like that"?

    That kinda worries me for days now ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    celica00 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually know if there is a kind of a "back up" plan in case GRRM himself dies? Like would he have notes for someone to say: yeah this will be the ending, if I can't finish it, write it in a way so the ending will look like that"?

    That kinda worries me for days now ha

    Look above ^^, he's said nobody else is to finish it if he dies. The show runners now how it ends so they would finish it if he dies, at this rate they'll be finished first anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    celica00 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually know if there is a kind of a "back up" plan in case GRRM himself dies? Like would he have notes for someone to say: yeah this will be the ending, if I can't finish it, write it in a way so the ending will look like that"?

    That kinda worries me for days now ha

    If he kicks the bucket nobody is allowed to finish the books.

    The TV series will carry on until the end regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭LostArt


    I'd hate Tyrion to die, but i'm half expecting it given what he's been through so far


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