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05-06-2014 10:52AM

bren2001 wrote: »

Just saw my sweepstakes team. Something to look forward too.

Not too bad myself

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tallaghtmick · 05-06-2014 10:52AM

kryogen wrote: »

Shouldn't have had any bearing on it really, Evra clearly can't play every game, though with the lack of mid week games this season he may actually improve a little but Shaw should have no problem making the number 1 spot his regardless, if he can't or isn't up for that fight he does not have the mentality for the club anyway.

At 18/19 he's prob not thinking like that, maybe we should tweet him :pac: #EvraispastitButtnerisreallyawingerpleasesignforusShawweloveyou

FutureGuy · 05-06-2014 10:57AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

We should bid £60m for Vidal and offer him £300k a week.

Why not?

Aim for the stars and maybe we'll reach the sky BT Sports.

FYP.

glued · 05-06-2014 11:14AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

BBC have a pretty cool feature on their website where you can select your dream World Cup XI...for the record, mine is:

Yashin
Alberto
Beckenbauer
Moore
Maldini
Iniesta
Charlton
Zidane
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff

My team was pretty easy to pick.

Buffon
Cafu Cannavaro Maldini R. Carlos
Xavi Matthaus
Rivaldo Zidane Iniesta
Ronaldo

Those are all player I saw playing when I was growing up. No World Cup team is complete without Il Fenômeno IMO

bangkok · 05-06-2014 11:25AM

Yashin

Cafu Beckenbauer Moore Maldini

Charlton Zidane Ronaldo

Pele Ronaldo Maradona

Deiseboy01 · 05-06-2014 11:26AM

glued wrote: »

My team was pretty easy to pick.
Buffon
Cafu Cannavaro Maldini R. Carlos
Xavi Matthaus
Rivaldo Zidane Iniesta
Ronaldo

Those are all player I saw playing when I was growing up. No World Cup team is complete without Il Fenômeno IMO

Good choice. I hate those all time selections with players that people have seen nothing of. Pointless. How can anyone stand over a pick they havent seen?

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 11:45AM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

Good choice. I hate those all time selections with players that people have seen nothing of. Pointless. How can anyone stand over a pick they havent seen?

I think it's more pointless to name an all time World Cup XI omitting (say) Maradona. If you're too young to have seen him, do some research.

It's pretty easy to form a view about George Best even though very few of us "saw" him...

05-06-2014 11:49AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I think it's more pointless to name an all time World Cup XI omitting (say) Maradona. If you're too young to have seen him, do some research.

It's pretty easy to form a view about George Best even though very few of us "saw" him...

Considering most Irish fans watch their team via TV it's not hard to watch these players on old recordings/youtube whatever

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 05-06-2014 11:52AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I think it's more pointless to name an all time World Cup XI omitting (say) Maradona. If you're too young to have seen him, do some research.

It's pretty easy to form a view about George Best even though very few of us "saw" him...

No it's not. Watching YouTube footage just shows you the highlights of his career, it rarely shows you the matches where some full back kept him in his pocket. Your own personal world cup XI should always be players your familiar with from watching live.

Will I Amnt · 05-06-2014 11:57AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I think it's more pointless to name an all time World Cup XI omitting (say) Maradona. If you're too young to have seen him, do some research

That's a bit ridiculous to be honest. Do you expect people to research every decent player in history before giving their team?
I've never seen Di Stefano play. It would be stupid for me to put him in my list of the best forwards in history.

Ed The Equalizer · 05-06-2014 12:03PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

That's a bit ridiculous to be honest. Do you expect people to research every decent player in history before giving their team?
I've never seen Di Stefano play. It would be stupid for me to put him in my list of the best forwards in history.

Not as stupid as saying Iniesta is better than Pele...

duffman13 · 05-06-2014 12:05PM

bangkok wrote: »

Yashin

Cafu Beckenbauer Moore Maldini

Charlton Zidane Ronaldo

Pele Ronaldo Maradona

Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't really deserve a place in there just yet. Have a feeling he may have a special tournament this time. Him and Maldini haven't won it either. It's pretty amazing Maldini never won it really.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 05-06-2014 12:09PM

No messi nominations ?

RichFTW · 05-06-2014 12:10PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I think it's more pointless to name an all time World Cup XI omitting (say) Maradona. If you're too young to have seen him, do some research.

It's pretty easy to form a view about George Best even though very few of us "saw" him...

By research, you mean use someone else's opinion. I think it's more pointless to list your all time team with some positions filled because some journalist had them in their all time team. Like say that Yashin dude.

Cannavaro would nearly be the first name on any team I would choose because I have watched him and know how good he was. I could never justify putting Beckenbauer or Moore in instead of him just because someone told me they were better. You can find loads of matches and clips of Pele & Maradona to back up their inclusion along with popular opinion. This isn't the case with most players from the past though, like Moore.

newballsplease · 05-06-2014 12:19PM

Shaw was kinda at fault with the Equador goal last night.. Didnt keep goalside of the scorer for the first.
30mill.... Hmmmm i wonder!?

newballsplease · 05-06-2014 12:20PM

Can ye take the world cup best 11 to the world cup thread?

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 12:27PM

RichFTW wrote: »

By research, you mean use someone else's opinion. I think it's more pointless to list your all time team with some positions filled because some journalist had them in their all time team. Like say that Yashin dude.

Cannavaro would nearly be the first name on any team I would choose because I have watched him and know how good he was. I could never justify putting Beckenbauer or Moore in instead of him just because someone told me they were better. You can find loads of matches and clips of Pele & Maradona to back up their inclusion along with popular opinion. This isn't the case with most players from the past though, like Moore.

Let's agree to disagree...I never saw Pele play but I recognise that pretty much anyone who did see him play says that he was the greatest player of all time. On that basis, he makes my team.

TheDoc · 05-06-2014 12:28PM

I'd have McGrath in there beside Beckenbauer every day of the week.

He's not championed as much as he should be in this country. Remove everything apart from the pitch...and you had one of the all time great CBs.

MagicIRL · 05-06-2014 12:29PM

newballsplease wrote: »

Can ye take the world cup best 11 to the world cup thread?

Woah, woah, woah. Where do you think you are, pal? This is the Manchester United Sweepstakes, World Cup Best Ever XI, Transfers, Rumours, Valencia v Welbeck, Nani is ****e, #MoyesOut #IronTulip, Bangkok "In the Know", Twitter Spoofer Superthread 2014.

Macca07 · 05-06-2014 12:52PM

So according to some papers today, Sandro is available for £15 million if Napoli want him. If he's available for that little, United should be in the bidding. PL proven, good age, good player, better than what we have. Him and Dembele would've been awesome.

I am pie · 05-06-2014 12:57PM

TheDoc wrote: »

I'd have McGrath in there beside Beckenbauer every day of the week.

He's not championed as much as he should be in this country. Remove everything apart from the pitch...and you had one of the all time great CBs.

Take off the green sunglasses.

Find me one non-Irish commentator or fan who would have Mcgrath anywhere near that team.

Madness.

bangkok · 05-06-2014 01:16PM

MrMac84 wrote: »

No messi nominations ?

messi is not listed in the 110 players. in fairness he has done nothing at any world cup.

Zico · 05-06-2014 01:16PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Let's agree to disagree...I never saw Pele play but I recognise that pretty much anyone who did see him play says that he was the greatest player of all time. On that basis, he makes my team.

SAF signed Bebe on the same basis and look how that worked out.

Maradona > Pele without any doubt in my mind.

(Actually to many Brazilians I'm better than Pele.

)

bangkok · 05-06-2014 01:18PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't really deserve a place in there just yet. Have a feeling he may have a special tournament this time. Him and Maldini haven't won it either. It's pretty amazing Maldini never won it really.

but Ronaldo had a class 2006 world cup, prob one of the best players in the tournament and 2010 world cup he was man of the match in all 3 group games

xtal191 · 05-06-2014 01:21PM

bangkok wrote: »

messi is not listed in the 110 players. in fairness he has done nothing at any world cup.

Neither has Ronaldo but he's there.

bangkok · 05-06-2014 01:31PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Neither has Ronaldo but he's there.

you serious??

2006 world cup semi final and one of the best players in the tournament, unlucky to lose semi final

2010 world cup won man of the match in all 3 group games including the game against brazil

xtal191 · 05-06-2014 01:43PM

Weren't man of the matches voted for by the fans in the last world cup?

Anyway I'm not having a go at Ronaldo, but if he's on that list Messi should be too.

bangkok · 05-06-2014 01:46PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Weren't man of the matches voted for by the fans in the last world cup?

Anyway I'm not having a go at Ronaldo, but if he's on that list Messi should be too.

why? its how you performed at a world cup, Ronaldo had 2 great world cups, messi had none. its all to do with international form not what messi has done at barca

beno619 · 05-06-2014 01:46PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Weren't man of the matches voted for by the fans in the last world cup?

Anyway I'm not having a go at Ronaldo, but if he's on that list Messi should be too.

If it's based on World Cup performance then Messi's exclusion is justified.

tallaghtmick · 05-06-2014 01:52PM

beno619 wrote: »

If it's based on World Cup performance then Messi's exclusion is justified.

The last WC they had Messi out wide Maradona wasn't a happy lil legend when he seen that.

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