Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 10:06AM

bangkok wrote: »

if mata was available and he signed for Liverpool lets say and we signed nobody I bet you would be cursing man Utd for not signing him though?

The point there is if we signed nobody.

We need defenders and midfielders...not another number 10. I'd swap Mata for a world class midfielder (Vidal, Fabregas, Toure) in a heartbeat to be honest. That doesn't mean that I don't like Mata. My view is that you identify your side's most pressing need and prioritise it...build the house and then put the furniture in so to speak. The spine of our team has De Gea and RVP who are top class and then a motley crew of prospects, has beens, never beens and never will be's.

redbaron_99 · 05-06-2014 10:09AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I hope this doesn't become the accepted truth about Felliani's season because its not really true. It was not an injury riddled season, he had an injury, he was out for while, it happens to everybody and it wasn't the reason for him being so bloody useless every time he was on the field.

He carried an injury into the season, played through it. Then had another injury, this time to his back. He then went for surgery on his wrist, and missed more time through back injury again. Also missed 2 games after sustaining a head injury at Newcastle.
So not AN injury.

Technophobe · 05-06-2014 10:09AM

If Southampton want to play hard ball over Shaw, then I would have no problem telling them to fcuk off!
30m (supposed figure) is a lot of money for a full back, never mind a raw 18 year old...
Plenty more decent young full backs out there that I am sure Van Gaal is aware of

Midfield is the area we need to prioritise and throw money at...

Too many people panicking over anything and nothing wrt to transfer and non transfer stories imo...

duffman13 · 05-06-2014 10:09AM

Al Capwned wrote: »

Haha yeah. He'd 'Kill' to have met him irl.

"GGMU"

He would have left Giggsy with a stain if he met him in person!

duffman13 · 05-06-2014 10:13AM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

He carried an injury into the season, played through it. Then had another injury, this time to his back. He then went for surgery on his wrist, and missed more time through back injury again. Also missed 2 games after sustaining a head injury at Newcastle.
So not AN injury.

Spot on

In fairness I was never for signing Fellaini but you can't judge him just yet. He deserves a season in a dressing room that's not almost poisonous. It will be interesting to see how he performs at the WC. A bit of a chance to prove a point.

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 10:20AM

duffman13 wrote: »

Spot on

In fairness I was never for signing Fellaini but you can't judge him just yet. He deserves a season in a dressing room that's not almost poisonous. It will be interesting to see how he performs at the WC. A bit of a chance to prove a point.

My sense is that our view of him was coloured by his success in the Niall Quinn target man role against us a few times.

What I saw last season was a technically poor player who is chronically short of the standard required for a Manchester United player.

Beckham Scholes Keane Giggs.

How things have been allowed to deteriorate since then is shocking.

For a club that should be looking to compete with Real Madrid etc, our culture of "sure let's play Phil Jones in midfield" is incredible.

kryogen · 05-06-2014 10:26AM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Regardless of easy transfer or not they have bid for him early on, before him possibly going on to do well at the WC, you seem to miss my point that we are waiting while them and Chelsea are doing business, your reason ah its Southampton I'm sure if we wanted a player off them we would get him easily.....Shaw says hello.

Not what he is saying at all

Also, sure we bid on Shaw early, before him possibly going on to do well at the WC so all is well right?

tallaghtmick · 05-06-2014 10:29AM

kryogen wrote: »

Not what he is saying at all

Also, sure we bid on Shaw early, before him possibly going on to do well at the WC so all is well right?

My point at the time was he claimed it was easy to sign a player from Southampton hence the Shaw bit, but we moved on from that when he replied saying that's not exactly what he meant.

kryogen · 05-06-2014 10:29AM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

I.....I.....I actually agree with Bangkok.......

I know! I'm scared too

beno619 · 05-06-2014 10:30AM

There's a huge difference between bidding and getting the deal done, I think we all expected Shaw to be a United player by now after our apparent bid. I'm still confident it'll go through but the longer it takes more I worry Chelsea could swing it their way.

kryogen · 05-06-2014 10:33AM

Maybe I am in the minority then, but I have always thought Shaw was going to go to Chelsea to replace Cole, seems like the perfect move for him. Boyhood fan, big team, they now have a need for a new starting left back for the first time in about 8 years.

If it came down to a choice between us and Chelsea I would be astounded if he choose us.

If Chelsea are not that interested that would be different of course

tallaghtmick · 05-06-2014 10:35AM

beno619 wrote: »

There's a huge difference between bidding and getting the deal done, I think we all expected Shaw to be a United player by now after our apparent bid. I'm still confident it'll go through but the longer it takes more I worry Chelsea could swing it their way.

kryogen wrote: »

Maybe I am in the minority then, but I have always thought Shaw was going to go to Chelsea to replace Cole, seems like the perfect move for him. Boyhood fan, big team, they now have a need for a new starting left back for the first time in about 8 years.

If it came down to a choice between us and Chelsea I would be astounded if he choose us.

If Chelsea are not that interested that would be different of course

I thought the Evra deal might have fecked it up.

bren2001 · 05-06-2014 10:35AM

Just saw my sweepstakes team. Something to look forward too.

duffman13 · 05-06-2014 10:36AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

My sense is that our view of him was coloured by his success in the Niall Quinn target man role against us a few times.

What I saw last season was a technically poor player who is chronically short of the standard required for a Manchester United player.

Beckham Scholes Keane Giggs.

How things have been allowed to deteriorate since then is shocking.

For a club that should be looking to compete with Real Madrid etc, our culture of "sure let's play Phil Jones in midfield" is incredible.

One of the reason I didn't like him was cause of the fact he made Everton lump the ball up to him due to his physical presence. He has played deeper and been reasonably effective but not to the United standard. I do think he is better than he showed though, he should have been an improvement on what we had available to us which is why I think he will be better next season with a run of games.

FutureGuy · 05-06-2014 10:36AM

Came up in the LC exam this morning...anyone with the answers for Question 1 and 2?

MANCHESTER UNITED - ORDINARY LEVEL PAPER 1

Please read all questions carefully. You must answer all parts.

Q.1 (30 marks)
A team of....

DDG
Rafael - Jones - Smalling - Evra
Fellaini/Clev - Carrick
Mata - Rooney - Kagawa
RVP

MANAGED BY LOUIS VAN GAAL

....would finish in _____ place in the league next near.

Q.2 (10 marks)
If LVG could sign only one player this summer, who would it be? Please explain your answer. Negative marks given for unrealistic targets.

Q.3 (10 points)
Steven Gerrard is running towards the ball at 3 km/ph. The ball is travelling at 15 km/ph towards the player at an 7 degree angle. Calculate the t........

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 10:37AM

BBC have a pretty cool feature on their website where you can select your dream World Cup XI...for the record, mine is:

Yashin
Alberto
Beckenbauer
Moore
Maldini
Iniesta
Charlton
Zidane
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff

bucketybuck · 05-06-2014 10:37AM

Technophobe wrote: »

If Southampton want to play hard ball over Shaw, then I would have no problem telling them to fcuk off!

I would like Shaw signed but this has to be the approach. Its been weeks now since the transfer was supposedly a done deal, so whatever the reasons if Southampton don't want £30m for an 18 year old then tell them to get lost.

Lord TSC · 05-06-2014 10:39AM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

No mention of Shaw in it .

Subtext ffs. I said our lives would be easier if Lambert and Lallana were the height of our ambitions. That obviously implies there is a harder deal we are looking at. I don't think many people ever spell out a point letter for letter. I would have though by implying that those were easier to work on, that there are harder deals and those are the deals we are after.

I agree with the 2nd part but would be worried with no CL our usual Euro rivals would be preference to a "top top":pac: player so thats why we need to act fast.

We won't be tricking any clubs through speed; acting fast won't make Southampton forget how valuable shaw is. I agree other clubs will be more attractive for other players but speed won't help us; if a player is going to draw attention from multiple clubs, then the selling club won't be tricked into doing business fast...

Maximus Alexander · 05-06-2014 10:39AM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Q.3 (10 points)
Steven Gerrard is running towards the ball at 3 km/ph. The ball is travelling at 15 km/ph towards the player at an 7 degree angle. Calculate the t........

Is that the joke? :eek: That would barely qualify as shuffling.

Mitch Connor · 05-06-2014 10:40AM

Question 1. 6th.
Question 2. Strootman. Cause he won' be able to play for a couple of months and our season will be fecked before the guy comes back. Good signing though

Giggsy11 · 05-06-2014 10:42AM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Came up in the LC exam this morning...anyone with the answers for Question 1 and 2?

MANCHESTER UNITED - ORDINARY LEVEL PAPER 1

Please read all questions carefully. You must answer all parts.

Q.1 (30 marks)
A team of....
DDG
Rafael - Jones - Smalling - Evra
Fellaini/Clev - Carrick
Mata - Rooney - Kagawa
RVP

MANAGED BY LOUIS VAN GAAL

....would finish in __4th___ place in the league next near.

Q.2 (10 marks)
If LVG could sign only one player this summer, who would it be? Please explain your answer. Negative marks given for unrealistic targets.

William Carvalho, scouted him loads of times and we badly need a CM. Kroos and Fabregas are pipe dreams and I don't they are realistic anymore.

Q.3 (10 points)
Steven Gerrard is running towards the ball at 3 km/ph. The ball is travelling at 15 km/ph towards the player at an 7 degree angle. Calculate the t........
He slipped.

Can't wait to see the results..

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 10:43AM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Came up in the LC exam this morning...anyone with the answers for Question 1 and 2?

MANCHESTER UNITED - ORDINARY LEVEL PAPER 1

Please read all questions carefully. You must answer all parts.

Q.1 (30 marks)
A team of....
DDG
Rafael - Jones - Smalling - Evra
Fellaini/Clev - Carrick
Mata - Rooney - Kagawa
RVP

MANAGED BY LOUIS VAN GAAL

....would finish in _____ place in the league next near.

Q.2 (10 marks)
If LVG could sign only one player this summer, who would it be? Please explain your answer. Negative marks given for unrealistic targets.

Q.3 (10 points)
Steven Gerrard is running towards the ball at 3 km/ph. The ball is travelling at 15 km/ph towards the player at an 7 degree angle. Calculate the t........

1. 4th place.

2. Arturo Vidal. The most complete midfielder out there.

3. Next year will be their year.

duffman13 · 05-06-2014 10:45AM

Came up in the LC exam this morning...anyone with the answers for Question 1 and 2?

MANCHESTER UNITED - ORDINARY LEVEL PAPER 1

Please read all questions carefully. You must answer all parts.

Q.1 (30 marks)
A team of....

DDG
Rafael - Jones - Smalling - Evra
Fellaini/Clev - Carrick
Mata - Rooney - Kagawa
RVP

MANAGED BY LOUIS VAN GAAL

....would finish in 4th place in the league next near.

Q.2 (10 marks)
If LVG could sign only one player this summer, who would it be? Please explain your answer.

Anybody? Yaya Toure, best midfielder in the league over the last couple of seasons, can pass, tackle and chips in with more than his far share of goals. Someone more achievable would be Carvalho who we have gone cool on. He would I believe offer a similar presence to Toure and could eventually develop to be as influential as Yaya. Bit of a risk as he is only 22 but one I would love too see signed.

Q.3 (10 points)
Steven Gerrard is running towards the ball at 3 km/ph. The ball is travelling at 15 km/ph towards the player at an 7 degree angle. Calculate the t........

kryogen · 05-06-2014 10:46AM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

I thought the Evra deal might have fecked it up.

Shouldn't have had any bearing on it really, Evra clearly can't play every game, though with the lack of mid week games this season he may actually improve a little but Shaw should have no problem making the number 1 spot his regardless, if he can't or isn't up for that fight he does not have the mentality for the club anyway.

xtal191 · 05-06-2014 10:47AM

Q1. 5th

Q2. Realistica signing: Veratti, he's going to superstar.
Unrealistic: Vidal, at the moment he's the most complete midfielder in the world.

Crimson King · 05-06-2014 10:49AM

To be honest I am not panicking like last summer just yet. We only know about the bid for Shaw because Southamption released the info.

The club have yet to confirm the bid officially and this could well mean the deal is a 'done deal' already. I said it last night and I still hold out hope for it to happen, I think the club are trying to pull of a BIG moment and release their business all at once and have people talking about it for the Summer. I am basing this on nothing but hope and the fact that the club are under pressure to produce this Summer after last years fiasco.

Shaw is a potentially big signing in terms of potential but his signing would hardly appease followers who know where the weaknesses in the squad are. It would be greeted with a 'nice one' response, like Mata was (still cant believe he plays for my team). I think the club are trying to pull off a signing or signings that will have us believing again and if so well then by all means I hope they do it.

Just my two cents anyways. However the longer we go without signings the more anxious we will all get.

beno619 · 05-06-2014 10:49AM

I think we all thought Shaw was destined for Chelsea until the United bid was made then we started hearing noises he would prefer United.

kryogen · 05-06-2014 10:50AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I would like Shaw signed but this has to be the approach. Its been weeks now since the transfer was supposedly a done deal, so whatever the reasons if Southampton don't want £30m for an 18 year old then tell them to get lost.

Amen

tallaghtmick · 05-06-2014 10:50AM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Subtext ffs. I said our lives would be easier if Lambert and Lallana were the height of our ambitions. That obviously implies there is a harder deal we are looking at. I don't think many people ever spell out a point letter for letter. I would have though by implying that those were easier to work on, that there are harder deals and those are the deals we are after..

Ah ok so mind reading will be the next thing on my list

:D

Larry Wildman · 05-06-2014 10:51AM

We should bid £60m for Vidal and offer him £300k a week.

Why not?

Aim for the stars and maybe we'll reach the sky.

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