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irishfeen · 04-06-2014 09:23PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It's definitely Chelsea, a few places were saying earlier that the fee was agreed and just personal terms were left

Which makes sense with what Del Bosque and Pique gave away

City and Chelsea pulling away from the rest now IMO

Yeah and tbh even a few more seem to be even pulling away from us at the minute too...

Lord TSC · 04-06-2014 09:25PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

You could try though, you know, make an offer and see what happens and every single indication on this is that united made no move at all.

I would firmly believe we did and were promptly told he wasn't interested, and that it was decided it was better to pretend we didn't.

But I realise that doesn't fit with the idea of Woodward people want to paint though...far better to pretend he is doing nothing...

The_Kew_Tour · 04-06-2014 09:25PM

This is what you get when you sit on your arse for 3-4 seasons and do sweet FA about problems that are going to catch up with you.

I still think we will do ok in Transfer market though.

Mitch Connor · 04-06-2014 09:27PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I would firmly believe we did and were promptly told he wasn't interested, and that it was decided it was better to pretend we didn't.

But I realise that doesn't fit with the idea of Woodward people want to paint though...far better to pretend he is doing nothing...

Beyond your own internal thoughts, do you have absolutely anything to base that on? All the press and fanzine snouts say united have shown no interest in him, but if you have some hint at another angle I'd love to hear it.

Mitch Connor · 04-06-2014 09:28PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

This is what you get when you sit on your arse for 3-4 seasons and do sweet FA about problems that are going to catch up with you.

I still think we will do ok in Transfer market though.

Would love to have something to base such faith on. United seem to be at sea again, already.

irishfeen · 04-06-2014 09:29PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

This is what you get when you sit on your arse for 3-4 seasons and do sweet FA about problems that are going to catch up with you.

I still think we will do ok in Transfer market though.

I'm actually getting uneasy now, direct rivals are strengthening in areas which let them down last season - United finished 7th and don't seem even close to completing a signing of any real note.

Larry Wildman · 04-06-2014 09:29PM

Unless Fabregas is coming to us and Woodward has just played his cards close to his chest...

We are being left in City and Chelsea's wake...even Liverpool are strengthening while we just f..k around.

Why isn't the Shaw deal done yet?

Timmyctc · 04-06-2014 09:30PM

Lads, lads Calm down.

We are Man United..
We don't just sign players......

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The_Kew_Tour · 04-06-2014 09:31PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Would love to have something to base such faith on. United seem to be at sea again, already.

irishfeen wrote: »

I'm actually getting uneasy now, direct rivals are strengthening in areas which let them down last season - United finished 7th and don't seem even close to completing a signing of any real note.

I still think we will pull out 1 big name and few other decent buys.

I never bought into the Kroos machine and Cesc was never happening imo, so I was never as disappointed as some and still think we have targets and will get a few of them.

Maybe im too optimistic. If its like this come 1st of August I be ****ting a brick.

FutureGuy · 04-06-2014 09:31PM

Lads, everyone needs to cool the jets about Fabregas. I heard we are getting Pot Noodle as our Official European Noodle Supplier...good times ahead.

Chelsea check where they need reinforcements. They need a replacement for Lampard and a striker.

They get Fabregas and Costa.

Clinical transfer dealing making United look like fcuking halfwits. Again.

redbaron_99 · 04-06-2014 09:32PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Unless Fabregas is coming to us and Woodward has just played his cards close to his chest...

We are being left in City and Chelsea's wake...even Liverpool are strengthening while we just f..k around.

Why isn't the Shaw deal done yet?

Probably because he's holding out for Chelsea to make an offer. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if we missed out on him.

You really have to wonder what the hell is going on at the club. Are they unwilling to spend? Is there any money to spend? Is there confusion about targets? Is it a case that Woody hasn't got a clue how to conduct transfer dealings?

How Soon Is Now · 04-06-2014 09:32PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Maybe he just doesn't want to play for United???
You can't force players to come.

So he joins one of his ex clubs biggest rivals instead then? Where he might not even play every game and according to storys the manager didn't want him........

irishfeen · 04-06-2014 09:33PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Unless Fabregas is coming to us and Woodward has just played his cards close to his chest...

We are being left in City and Chelsea's wake...even Liverpool are strengthening while we just f..k around.

Why isn't the Shaw deal done yet?

Ah sure whats the panic - we'll wait until the end playing hardball over a few million until panic stations set in and we'll buy David Meyler for about 30 million :rolleyes:

irishfeen · 04-06-2014 09:36PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I still think we will pull out 1 big name and few other decent buys.

I never bought into the Kroos machine and Cesc was never happening imo, so I was never as disappointed as some and still think we have targets and will get a few of them.

Maybe im too optimistic. If its like this come 1st of August I be ****ting a brick.

I really do hope your right Kew lad, we need about 6 quality players to even compete for anything... at the minute Shaw even looks not certain - I honestly cannot understand what's going on at the club.

Lord TSC · 04-06-2014 09:36PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Beyond your own internal thoughts, do you have absolutely anything to base that on? All the press and fanzine snouts say united have shown no interest in him, but if you have some hint at another angle I'd love to hear it.

The press in the last month have shown they don't have a ****ing clue what is happening at United; they've continually contradicted themselves in terms of who we are after and not after. They are settling on that story now.

I base my thoughts on some simply facts; we spent the entire of last summer chasing him in a very public manner. We need midfielders. He was clearly available. Occam's razor and all that. It strikes me it is far, far more likely that we asked and were told it wasn't happening, or that we didn't because we realized we never stood a chance, and that the PR department decided to start spreading the word we weren't interested.

Realistically, what could we offer Chelsea can't? Once they were in, that was game over for us, no matter what Woodward or anyone else tried.

Ultimately United will be judged based on the entire transfer window, not on the opening weeks, and we knew it would be a long summer for a variety of reasons. Throwing toys out of the pram already is hyperbolic and, to be blunt, makes this topic really toxic and mindnumbing to read.

04-06-2014 09:37PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Heap, Woodward is sitting in his office twiddling his thumbs and looking up pictures of cats :rolleyes:

Sure he posts here in the forum regularly doesn't he?! I'm not going to name names, but an aroused man walking sideways through an airport security scanner on his way to Thailand is always going to...

04-06-2014 09:37PM

Van Gaal might want to see the Utd squad in the flesh before he makes signings.

The_Kew_Tour · 04-06-2014 09:38PM

irishfeen wrote: »

I really do hope your right Kew lad, we need about 6 quality players to even compete for anything... at the minute Shaw even looks not certain - I honestly cannot understand what's going on at the club.

We wont get 6 quality players.

We will do well to get 3 imo.

Thats my worry that some fans just think we can get 6-7 players and it be A OK.

04-06-2014 09:39PM

irishfeen wrote: »

I really do hope your right Kew lad, we need about 6 quality players to even compete for anything... at the minute Shaw even looks not certain - I honestly cannot understand what's going on at the club.

How do you know Shaw isn't certain?

How Soon Is Now · 04-06-2014 09:39PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Van Gaal might want to see the Utd squad in the flesh before he makes signings.

By the time that happens all the decent players will be gone ha.

Mitch Connor · 04-06-2014 09:40PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

The press in the last month have shown they don't have a ****ing clue what is happening at United; they've continually contradicted themselves in terms of who we are after and not after. They are settling on that story now.

I base my thoughts on some simply facts; we spent the entire of last summer chasing him in a very public manner. We need midfielders. He was clearly available. Occam's razor and all that. It strikes me it is far, far more likely that we asked and were told it wasn't happening, or that we didn't because we realized we never stood a chance, and that the PR department decided to start spreading the word we weren't interested.

Realistically, what could we offer Chelsea can't? Once they were in, that was game over for us, no matter what Woodward or anyone else tried.

Ultimately United will be judged based on the entire transfer window, not on the opening weeks, and we knew it would be a long summer for a variety of reasons. Throwing toys out of the pram already is hyperbolic and, to be blunt, makes this topic really toxic and mindnumbing to read.

So firstly you are basing it on nothing.

Secondly, you also state maybe we didn't go for him at all because we figured we wouldn't have a chance. So you say there is a good chance we didn't try for him, which is what you are arguing against. Clap, clap. Clap.

Rubber_Soul · 04-06-2014 09:40PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Van Gaal might want to see the Utd squad in the flesh before he makes signings.

Or he may just not rate Cesc for whatever system he has in mind.

Timmyctc · 04-06-2014 09:41PM

stankratz wrote: »

Sure he posts here in the forum regularly doesn't he?! I'm not going to name names, but an aroused man walking sideways through an airport security scanner on his way to Thailand is always going to...

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Mitch Connor · 04-06-2014 09:41PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

How do you know Shaw isn't certain?

Have we signed him? Have we agreed a fee with Southampton?

Larry Wildman · 04-06-2014 09:42PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

By the time that happens all the decent players will be gone ha.

Exactly.

If we don't get world class reinforcements, we can forget Champions League qualification.

Look at City's squad compared to ours. Look at the business that Chelsea are doing.

FFS.

irishfeen · 04-06-2014 09:42PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We wont get 6 quality players.

We will do well to get 3 imo.

Thats my worry that some fans just think we can get 6-7 players and it be A OK.

Ah I will be sinking pints galore with a big stupid smile on my face if we get 3 this window (my big worry is we might not even end up with this) - doesn't change the fact that we need 6 over the next few windows to even contemplate winning major trophies again.

Mitch Connor · 04-06-2014 09:43PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Exactly.

If we don't get world class reinforcements, we can forget Champions League qualification.

Look at City's squad compared to ours. Look at the business that Chelsea are doing.

FFS.

This is the united of glazers and Woodward, a united that aims to compete with Everton, spurs, arsenal and Liverpool, and still doing crap at it.

irishfeen · 04-06-2014 09:43PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

How do you know Shaw isn't certain?

Of course its uncertain until he signs on the dotted line - various reports of Chelsea sniffing around too...

The_Kew_Tour · 04-06-2014 09:44PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Ah I will be sinking pints galore with a big stupid smile on my face if we get 3 this window - doesn't change the fact that we need 6 over the next few windows to even contemplate winning major trophies again.

well you said it, it will take a few windows.

No short term fix for this. I have learned a hell of a lot in the past 9 months about signing players and be careful what you wish for etc.

Sadly, fans expectations can be way OTT and unrealistic and you can end up in worse place then you began.

Cookiemunster · 04-06-2014 09:44PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So firstly you are basing it on nothing.

Secondly, you also state maybe we didn't go for him at all because we figured we wouldn't have a chance. So you say there is a good chance we didn't try for him, which is what you are arguing against. Clap, clap. Clap.

I'd say he's basing it on about as much fact as you're basing your assumptions.

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