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Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

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  • #8042
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Ah jaysus, that time of year again is it?

    "Rooney's best days are behind him..."
    "He's on a downward curve..."

    Only a matter of time before "He's overweight...".

    The same shíte was spouted last summer too.


  • #8043
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Also Rooney over Sturridge in this WC for me.

    Rooney has three major tournaments under his belt for England. Sturridge none. While Rooney hasn't don't too well he is still experienced and it would be the wise choice going with him and bringing Strurridge in gently. Although I'd day both will start.

    A lot of pressure going onto Rooney this WC...some from himself. Wouldn't be shocked to see him storm it.

    Its kinda the same debate I don't get containing Sterling. UK journos etc crying over him not playing. Between a 19 year old with no experience whose skyrocketed to the top...and say a certain James Milner...with 40+ caps and two titles in three years...I know who I'd pick against Italy.


  • #8044
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Ah jaysus, that time of year again is it?

    "Rooney's best days are behind him..."
    "He's on a downward curve..."

    Only a matter of time before "He's overweight...".

    The same shíte was spouted last summer too.

    think that's happened a few times already in his career


  • #8045
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Ah jaysus, that time of year again is it?

    "Rooney's best days are behind him..."
    "He's on a downward curve..."

    Only a matter of time before "He's overweight...".

    The same shíte was spouted last summer too.

    Does the fact we have this same discussion constantly not show there's actually merit to such a discussion; that Rooney has yet to actually prove any of those things as utterly wrong?


  • #8046
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    TheDoc wrote: »
    So from my morning read.

    The Shaw to United deal is being put on hold until Southampton appoint a new manager. The club feel they won't attract a good candidate if they are seen selling their top assets..and want to have the new manager make the call on keeping Shaw or letting him leave. Seemingly Shaw is keen for the move to conclude ASAP.

    Mourinho has little to no interest and Chelsea are trying to convince him to take Fabregas. Mourinho is holding firm and doesn't want him..and will make a merry song and dance if Cesc is pushes on him. The player is becoming increasingly worried about the situation.

    All the while we are seemingly still not interested and have not and will not put forward a bid.

    One fella is saying Strootman is going to be most likely a massive January acquisition ...as the club want to monitor his recovery and return to the field with Roma before bidding in what will be in the region of 25-30m to secure him. Available to us for 12m last sumer. Ffs.

    Interesting reading this morning.

    You missed the one about Hummels being nearer a done deal than the Shaw transfer.


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  • #8047
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Ah jaysus, that time of year again is it?

    "Rooney's best days are behind him..."
    "He's on a downward curve..."

    Only a matter of time before "He's overweight...".

    The same shíte was spouted last summer too.

    And none of that turned out to be true...?


  • #8048
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    TheDoc wrote: »
    So from my morning read.

    One fella is saying Strootman is going to be most likely a massive January acquisition ...as the club want to monitor his recovery and return to the field with Roma before bidding in what will be in the region of 25-30m to secure him. Available to us for 12m last sumer. Ffs.

    Interesting reading this morning.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/04/manchester-united-kevin-strootman-30m-january-target-roma


  • #8049
    Macca07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    bangkok wrote: »
    well most commentators would say the same, he has never truly been a stand out player in a champions league season. in big champions league games rooney has more often than not has gone missing

    What commentators? At least provide a link to an article or something.

    2007, CL Semi Final 1st leg v AC Milan, scored 2
    2004 against Fenerbache, he scored a hat-trick on his debut
    2010 CL ties v AC Milan, 2 goals in both games

    3 games off the top of my head where he was the best player on the pitch by a mile.

    And you changed your argument from your last post, first by saying he has never had a great CL game, to now it being a great CL season.

    In the 2011 season when United were beaten by Barca in the final, he was the best player for United that season.

    In the previous season, he was also United's best player until he picked up the injury.


  • #8050
    Agueroooo
    Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Also Rooney over Sturridge in this WC for me.

    Rooney has three major tournaments under his belt for England. Sturridge none. While Rooney hasn't don't too well he is still experienced and it would be the wise choice going with him and bringing Strurridge in gently. Although I'd day both will start.

    A lot of pressure going onto Rooney this WC...some from himself. Wouldn't be shocked to see him storm it.

    Its kinda the same debate I don't get containing Sterling. UK journos etc crying over him not playing. Between a 19 year old with no experience whose skyrocketed to the top...and say a certain James Milner...with 40+ caps and two titles in three years...I know who I'd pick against Italy.

    In the remaining run-in games before the World Cup you want the players to show a spark, hunger, and spring in their step that they are ready to show why, and what they are going to give on the biggest stage in World football.

    Rooney and Johnson have done the opposite and look pissed off tbh.
    and tonight will be interesting to see if they improve.

    Sterling changed the game when he came on the other night, and Gerrard showed all the attributes needed,and looked well up for it with some really spicy tackles against Peru.

    Sturridge never stopped trying and got a peach of a goal for his efforts, as did the the other younger members of the squad.

    Joe Heart deserves a mention and I am looking forward to see how he does also.

    World Cups usually make stars of the younger talents that get brought as the desire and hunger usually gets rewarded, but imo Rooney needs to give his head a wobble and play to his potential, as his time/tournament may have passed, and I think everyone might just be raving about someone else soon enough.

    I think most of the negative press in the last few days is not to inflict any negative pain on him, but to maybe get him to wake up and perform.

    but right now his place in the team is rightly getting questioned.


  • #8051
    NTMK
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    Macca07 wrote: »
    In the 2011 season when United were beaten by Barca in the final, he was the best player for United that season.

    best player in 2010 aswell up to the ankle injury


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  • #8052
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    BBC 2 WALES are showing the Holland v Wales game.Anyone with satellite tv can tune it in via 'other channels'. Frequency is 10312 V 22.0 5/6


  • #8053
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Macca07 wrote: »
    What commentators? At least provide a link to an article or something.

    2007, CL Semi Final 1st leg v AC Milan, scored 2
    2004 against Fenerbache, he scored a hat-trick on his debut
    2010 CL ties v AC Milan, 2 goals in both games

    3 games off the top of my head where he was the best player on the pitch by a mile.

    And you changed your argument from your last post, first by saying he has never had a great CL game, to now it being a great CL season.

    In the 2011 season when United were beaten by Barca in the final, he was the best player for United that season.

    In the previous season, he was also United's best player until he picked up the injury.

    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2914/champions-league/2014/04/10/4742570/will-the-real-wayne-rooney-please-stand-up

    and rooney has never been once named in a champions league team of the season


  • #8054
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    bangkok wrote: »
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2914/champions-league/2014/04/10/4742570/will-the-real-wayne-rooney-please-stand-up

    and rooney has never been once named in a champions league team of the season

    Where's those players you said were definitely going to be signed last week?


  • #8055
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Where's those players you said were definitely going to be signed last week?

    shaw and kroos? shaw will still sign and van gaal pulled the plug on kroos deal. nothing me you or toni kroos can do about that


  • #8056
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Where's those players you said were definitely going to be signed last week?


    No no FG, Toni is coming after the German Cu.... wait a second. No, wait, yeah, usual "IDK" bull****.


  • #8057
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/van-gaal-ends-united-interest-in-toni-kroos-30296301.html


  • #8058
    advertsfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭advertsfox


    zerks wrote: »
    BBC 2 WALES are showing the Holland v Wales game.Anyone with satellite tv can tune it in via 'other channels'. Frequency is 10312 V 22.0 5/6
    Also available on Sky with these details (add via Other Channels) ;)

    Frequency: 10.788
    Polarisation: V
    Symbol Rate: 22.0
    FEC: 5/6


  • #8059
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Right..........so, what the other guy said then!? :)


  • #8060
    Macca07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    bangkok wrote: »
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2914/champions-league/2014/04/10/4742570/will-the-real-wayne-rooney-please-stand-up

    and rooney has never been once named in a champions league team of the season

    That article is by an absolute nobody in terms of world soccer. I could post up a blog saying that Rooney is the best player ever to play the game and copy the link here, that's how relevant your link is. I was expecting something from someone that actually has a reputation as a sports journalist.

    Also, that article kind of contradicts what you were saying. One line from it says "Often regarded as a big-game player". It's also about a game where Rooney had picked up a knock prior to it and had to have pain-killing injections to play.

    So what if Rooney has never once made the CL team of the season? Doesn't make your point any more valid. Ashley Cole has never made the FIFA team of the year, does that not make him one of the best LBs to play the game for the last decade?


  • #8061
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    What about 2 seasons ago when he scored 27 goals in the PL?

    What is the common denominator with both of those seasons? Rooney played as a striker.

    That's not really true though. The season you are talking about (11/12) when Rooney scored 27 league goals, he mainly played at #10 with Welbeck further ahead. Rooney has played that position for most of the last 4 seasons.


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  • #8062
    Macca07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    So Thomas Muller wants to have talks with Bayern about his future at the club.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9337646/transfer-news-thomas-muller-wants-meeting-with-bayern-munich-hierarchy
    I have reached the point where I want to know if I am an essential component of the Bayern Munich first XI for the new season and if the club has plans for me over the coming years


  • #8063
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Macca07 wrote: »
    That article is by an absolute nobody in terms of world soccer. I could post up a blog saying that Rooney is the best player ever to play the game and copy the link here, that's how relevant your link is. I was expecting something from someone that actually has a reputation as a sports journalist.

    Also, that article kind of contradicts what you were saying. One line from it says "Often regarded as a big-game player". It's also about a game where Rooney had picked up a knock prior to it and had to have pain-killing injections to play.

    So what if Rooney has never once made the CL team of the season? Doesn't make your point any more valid. Ashley Cole has never made the FIFA team of the year, does that not make him one of the best LBs to play the game for the last decade?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-faded-wayne-rooney-must-reinvent-himself-at-manchester-united--as-a-player-sir-alex-ferguson-still-needs-8082514.html

    james Lawton wrote that.. is that good enough?


  • #8064
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Does the fact we have this same discussion constantly not show there's actually merit to such a discussion; that Rooney has yet to actually prove any of those things as utterly wrong?

    No. It shows how stupid most football fans and journos are and how silly ideas can become very popular. Like the idea that Nani is lazy or that Gerrard is a good central midfielder.


  • #8065
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Pro. F wrote: »
    No. It shows how stupid most football fans and journos are and how silly ideas can become very popular. Like the idea that Nani is lazy or that Gerrard is a good central midfielder.

    Wait, you don't even think Gerrard is "good"?


  • #8066
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Pro. F wrote: »
    No. It shows how stupid most football fans and journos are and how silly ideas can become very popular. Like the idea that Nani is lazy or that Gerrard is a good central midfielder.

    2578047_o.gif


  • #8067
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    bangkok wrote: »
    but does he deserve a starting spot up front considering sturridges form? no goal scored in 8 world cup games and hasn't scored for England last 4 games...not great for a "world class" striker

    7 goals in 6 games in qualifiers.

    Edit: 17 goals in 27 league games for an awful United team this season. And for the majority of all these games he wasn't even playing as the centre forward.


  • #8068
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Pro what have you done, you have doomed us all

    kermit-running-o.gif


  • #8069
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    I did it just to see the gifs. I regret nothing.


  • #8070
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Wait, you don't even think Gerrard is "good"?

    As a number 10 he's excellent. As a central midfielder he is average compared to what will be at the World Cup.


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  • #8071
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,353 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    kryogen wrote: »
    Is it any opinion that doesn't fawn over the genius of Sturridge while disparaging Rooney that will be mocked?

    The dellusion is strong in that one kryo ;)


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