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796 children buried in Septic Tank in Galway - ### Mod Warning in 1st Post

  • 04-06-2014 07:57AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/world/europe/ireland-orphanages-mass-grave.html?_r=0

    This story is now getting international attention which hopefully will put the pressure on the Irish media and government to investigate.




    Mod: Folks, please refrain from making wild accusations and/or assumptions of murder and torture. And don't use this thread as another church bashing thread. If the story makes you so incensed that your can't post anything other than to express your hatred of the RCC, then just don't post and save us all some time. You can, of course, criticise the events and the people involved, but don't lose the run of yourselves.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    KCC wrote: »
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/world/europe/ireland-orphanages-mass-grave.html?_r=0

    This story is now getting international attention which hopefully will put the pressure on the Irish media and government to investigate.

    this and too many other stories reduce me to tears!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    There's a link to a petition campaigning for a full investigation in my sig. Sign and pass it on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    kylith wrote: »
    There's a link to a petition campaigning for a full investigation in my sig. Sign and pass it on.

    can't see your SIG on my phone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,402 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Nice gesture from the Galway church leaders. That should make everything okay. :rolleyes:

    Bunch of f*cking clowns.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    I fear that this story may be repeated in many other towns and cities in Ireland over the next few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Another Catholic church atrocity investigated when all those responsible are long dead. This is truly stomach churning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    We're not very good with our moral guardians, are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    We're not very good with our moral guardians, are we?

    Our moral guardians weren't very moral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,225 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The catholic church are 'pro-life' up until the point the baby is born, after that, they are pro-catholic agenda, and anyone or anything that posed a threat to their dominance were literally flung onto the sceptic tank.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    As a parent I find this truly heartbreaking. As a human, I find myself shaking with anger. It really is time to sever completely the link between Ireland/Irishness and Roman Catholicism. It's a disgusting outdated superstition that should have no place in a modern Ireland, especially not the continuing education of our children.

    Rest in peace poor little children and their mothers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,029 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I fear that this story may be repeated in many other towns and cities in Ireland over the next few years.

    It went on in countless towns, villages and townlands all over the country.

    I don't know how much an investigation will achieve, the protagonists are probably all dead or in their dotage at this remove.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    "Faith" indeed. If this was Jonestown or somewhere else, people would be calling them raging loonies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    You would be amazed by the people trying to downplay the churches involvement in this. Supposedly they wouldn't baptise these children so there was no way they would be buried on consecrated ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,225 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You would be amazed by the people trying to downplay the churches involvement in this. Supposedly they wouldn't baptise these children so there was no way they would be buried on consecrated ground.
    And this is one of the most pathetic parts of the whole story. The catholic teaching at the time was that non baptised people were doomed to go to hell or at the very best 'limbo'. They refused to accept these children into the church on the basis of some 'sin' that their parents committed before the children were even born.

    Whatever about the morality of having sex outside of marriage, the children were absolutely innocent of any 'sin' or any breach of catholic ethics but the church still treated them as if they were sub human in life and into death.

    What kind of mindset did they have? It absolutely boggles the mind that newborns and infants could have been labeled and pre-destined to live lives of third class citizens. It's the medieval mindset of a bronze age church and it has absolutely no place in a post enlightenment civilisation. The church needs to go. They have absolutely no moral authority, no reason to exist anymore, all they do is continuously attempt to drag us back into the dark ages from whence they came.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Can someone explain this to me? I'm kind of confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,225 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    Can someone explain this to me? I'm kind of confused.

    Catholic Ireland drove women who fell pregnant out of wedlock into catholic church run institutions where the women were enslaved and the babies malnourished and neglected and left to die at a rate that was more than twice the normal infant mortality rate in Ireland.
    These dead babies were then dumped into an unmarked grave in an old sceptic tank over a 40 year period and sealed in concrete

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Yeah, that's not very nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    I fear that this story may be repeated in many other towns and cities in Ireland over the next few years.

    I really hope it is, Not only to show the atrocities that the Catholic church partook in but so that every man/woman/child whose remains were dumped in a hole in the ground can maybe receive a proper burial.

    The government should force the church to tell them where these mass graves are and should also ask locals from towns and villages where these homes where based about any graves they know of.

    The bodies should then be removed and reburied with dignity and a proper burial. The catholic church should then be billed for every cent that it costs and if they refuse to pay then they should ave assets seized and sold until the final bill is covered.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Scum, and those who might defend or try in any way to defend or explain away this crime against humanity are even lower than the scum who committed it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I really hope it is, Not only to show the atrocities that the Catholic church partook in but so that every man/woman/child whose remains were dumped in a hole in the ground can maybe receive a proper burial.

    The government should force the church to tell them where these mass graves are and should also ask locals from towns and villages where these homes where based about any graves they know of.

    The bodies should then be removed and reburied with dignity and a proper burial. The catholic church should then be billed for every cent that it costs and if they refuse to pay then they should ave assets seized and sold until the final bill is covered.
    ^ this + 100000000000000000000000000000000000

    It wont happen thou with are spineless lot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    So we can add killing people to the list of atrocities by the church in Ireland since independence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I would call for an international team of experts who have dealt with genocide and mass graves to come over and investigate these atrocities fully. This state cannot be trusted to deal with the catholic church as we have witnessed in the past


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    iDave wrote: »
    So we can add killing people to the list of atrocities by the church in Ireland since independence.

    Indeed, we already knew about the killings in Letterfrack and other places.
    But these poor babies were fúcked in a septic tank because the catholics considered them to be "illegitimate bástards" no better than sewage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    A recent thread here was asking if people were sentimental and what made them cry.

    Well, here you are.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The thing I don't understand is if the children were baptised , and presumed they were as they were not babies who were born dead,... according to the rules of the church they should have been buried in concentrated ground a.k.a a grave yard so how come that did not happen? the nuns running the home must have known this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The thing I don't understand is if the children were baptised , and presumed they were as they were not babies who were born dead,... according to the rules of the church they should have been buried in concentrated ground a.k.a a grave yard so how come that did not happen? the nuns running the home must have known this.

    Bastard children of unwed mothers were not baptized back then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The thing I don't understand is if the children were baptised , and presumed they were as they were not babies who were born dead,... according to the rules of the church they should have been buried in concentrated ground a.k.a a grave yard so how come that did not happen? the nuns running the home must have known this.

    The RCC & friends seemed to have used it as a tool of control

    Bit like the Nazi extermination camps - "not one of us - off to the camp with you"

    Help one of the "outsiders", have one of the "outsiders" in your family - expect life to become very difficult


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 746 ✭✭✭diveout


    So you wont let women have abortions, buy you can make them give birth, kidnap their kids, and then let the kids starve to death and throw the dead body into a septic tank.

    Seriously, I couldn't have concocted a more evil plot.


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