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beno619 · 02-06-2014 11:47AM

Great deal for Pool 4 million for a guaranteed goalscorer. Southampton will have to pay a lot more to replace those goals.

kryogen · 02-06-2014 11:50AM

Done deal isn't it? Did I not see him in the jersey with the flag above his head?

Anyways, regarding penalties, there is so much more to them then hit and hope, and for keepers there is a lot more then just guess work too. I don't have time to go into great detail now unfortunately

RasTa · 02-06-2014 11:59AM

Moreno for £17m or Shaw for £30?

Will I Amnt · 02-06-2014 12:04PM

beno619 wrote: »

Great deal for Pool 4 million for a guaranteed goalscorer. Southampton will have to pay a lot more to replace those goals.

His involvement with them was on the wane in the last season, he spent too much time on the bench to be considered irreplaceable.

Agueroooo · 02-06-2014 12:08PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

His involvement with them was on the wane in the last season, he spent too much time on the bench to be considered irreplaceable.

He still managed to out score Adebayor, Benteke, Eto'o, Negredo, Welbeck, Torres, RVP (although injured for large parts)

For £4million plus the passion he will bring its a no brainer...really think he is going to surprise a few.

alchemist33 · 02-06-2014 12:10PM

I remember seeing something like this after the '02 World Cup:

If you think penalties are a lottery, remember how you felt when you saw Kevin Kilbane walk up to take Ireland's next

glued · 02-06-2014 12:10PM

Shaw has a higher ceiling. I'm not sure if Moreno will be a fit for the Premier League but he's a good player but both have had mixed seasons. Shaw started the season poor but really kicked on as the year progressed. Moreno hasn't really done that and isn't kicking on. You sense that he has got more to give.

I wouldn't have Moreno in our back four because that would be a luxury that we can't afford. Out of all the teams in the Premier League Liverpool would probably be the best fit for him but they'll need a solid, quick CB to cover the space that Moreno will leave behind him.

titan18 · 02-06-2014 12:13PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

He still managed to out score Adebayor, Benteke, Eto'o, Negredo, Welbeck, Torres, RVP (although injured for large parts)

For £4million plus the passion he will bring its a no brainer...really think he is going to surprise a few.

Played like twice as many minutes as most of them though.

irishfeen · 02-06-2014 12:14PM

Well at least we're after flying out the blocks this transfer window as usual...

Agueroooo · 02-06-2014 12:19PM

titan18 wrote: »

Played like twice as many minutes as most of them though.

Twice as many is a bit if an exaggeration,no?

He does really well without getting much
appreciation.

In the past two seasons only Suarez,Rooney, RVP and Gerrard have registered more goals&assists.

the more I look into it the more I think it could be the best £4mil we have spent in a long time, and with the extra games we have I am sure it's been clearly explained what role he will play next season.

MagicMarker · 02-06-2014 12:20PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Far more to it than that.

Not really, you can do your research obviously, that just makes the guess an educated one, but a guess all the same.

Mitch Connor · 02-06-2014 12:22PM

Another day of nothing from united. Horrible feeling of last year.

Quandary · 02-06-2014 12:24PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Well at least we're after flying out the blocks this transfer window as usual...

Van Gaal was confirmed as our next manager 2 weeks ago and according to many sources, transfer targets were discussed before he was confirmed. It is realistic to assume he would have given some sort of wish list to Woodward when he signed.

10 days to go until the World Cup kicks off in Brazil. It really isn't looking like we will have any deals concluded by then which is very disappointing.

Vinz Mesrine · 02-06-2014 12:24PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Another day of nothing from united. Horrible feeling of last year.

I wouldn't read too much into it tbh, from what I recall it's always the same before a world cup.

RasTa · 02-06-2014 12:25PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Another day of nothing from united. Horrible feeling of last year.

On the 2nd of June? If it's mid way through July you might have a point.

Ricky Lambert for £4m and Luiz for £50m are standard freak and small transfers.

titan18 · 02-06-2014 12:25PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

Twice as many is a bit if an exaggeration,no?

He does really well without getting much
appreciation.

In the past two seasons only Suarez,Rooney, RVP and Gerrard have registered more goals&assists.

the more I look into it the more I think it could be the best £4mil we have spent in a long time, and with the extra games we have I am sure it's been clearly explained what role he will play next season.

Lambert played 2814 minutes

RVP - 1580
Adebayor - 1805
Benteke - 2126
Eto'o - 1298
Negredo - 1722
Welbeck - 1462
Torres - 1573

Other than Benteke, no one is really close in minutes played.

Leftist · 02-06-2014 12:26PM

Quandary wrote: »

Van Gaal was confirmed as our next manager 2 weeks ago and according to many sources, transfer targets were discussed before he was confirmed. It is realistic to assume he would have given some sort of wish list to Woodward when he signed.

10 days to go until the World Cup kicks off in Brazil. It really isn't looking like we will have any deals concluded by then which is very disappointing.

if it's not done before the world cup, which is fairly apparent now, then i honestly can't see things picking up fast in July during holiday season.

so we're realistically looking at restructuring the squad within the month of august. How many signings would you expect this club, with the track record of drawn out, laborious signings, to make in one month?

beno619 · 02-06-2014 12:28PM

A Jaysus lads it's a great bit of business. 16 goals and 12 assists in the league we wouldn't be dismissing him if he went anywhere other than Pool. Gives his all and scores in big games. If he had pace he'd be the complete forward.

Mitch Connor · 02-06-2014 12:31PM

RasTa wrote: »

On the 2nd of June? If it's mid way through July you might have a point.

Ricky Lambert for £4m and Luiz for £50m are standard freak and small transfers.

You think we are going to sign players during the World Cup?

Players will now head off to the World Cup, so nothing will get done. Then they will head in their holidays and nothing will get done. Then we will spend the last month scrabbling around like morons.

Adamcp898 · 02-06-2014 12:33PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

You think we are going to sign players during the World Cup?

Players will now head off to the World Cup, so nothing will get done. Then they will head in their holidays and nothing will get done. Then we will spend the last month scrabbling around like morons.

Next thing......

Pro. F · 02-06-2014 12:34PM

titan18 wrote: »

Lambert played 2814 minutes

RVP - 1580
Adebayor - 1805
Benteke - 2126
Eto'o - 1298
Negredo - 1722
Welbeck - 1462
Torres - 1573

Other than Benteke, no one is really close in minutes played.

He said twice as many minutes was a bit of an exaggeration. You've just proven that it was.

titan18 · 02-06-2014 12:36PM

Pro. F wrote: »

He said twice as many minutes was a bit of an exaggeration. You've just proven that it was.

Tbf, I said like twice as many minutes, so not exactly, but roughly.

Eto'o,RVP,Welbeck and Torres cover it imo.

Main thing is the him scoring 13 goals and more than those guys was a measure of quality. Other than Torres, they'd all have scored more than him if played the same amount.

Will I Amnt · 02-06-2014 12:37PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

He still managed to out score Adebayor, Benteke, Eto'o, Negredo, Welbeck, Torres, RVP (although injured for large parts)

For £4million plus the passion he will bring its a no brainer...really think he is going to surprise a few.

Keep your panties on, that has nothing to do with anything I said.

RasTa · 02-06-2014 12:38PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

You think we are going to sign players during the World Cup?

Players will now head off to the World Cup, so nothing will get done. Then they will head in their holidays and nothing will get done. Then we will spend the last month scrabbling around like morons.

So why are you moaning if you already know what is going to happen?

Personally think we haven't signed anyone due to the World Cup.

Quandary · 02-06-2014 12:40PM

Leftist wrote: »

if it's not done before the world cup, which is fairly apparent now, then i honestly can't see things picking up fast in July during holiday season.

so we're realistically looking at restructuring the squad within the month of august. How many signings would you expect this club, with the track record of drawn out, laborious signings, to make in one month?

I have faith in Van Gaal to do things efficiently but unfortunately he will not be the one driving the transfers forward.

Like many other regulars on this thread, I do not have any faith in Woodwards ability to handle transfer business at this level. He clearly is a phenomenal business man in other areas but he desperately needs to prove that he is up to the task regarding transfer business.

People keep saying its difficult to sing players during a WC transfer window. We've known this since last Summer and there should be extra urgency and determination to push deals through quickly even if it means paying 10 or 15% extra to do so.

PSG signed Luiz so quickly because they threw stupid money at Chelsea which was impossible to refuse. The deal seemed to be concluded in a matter of days.

Now I'm not for one second saying we should be throwing silly money around, but now is not the time for long drawn out transfer deals which might be being held up because we aren't willing to pay that extra 10% to get the deal over the line.

We have gotten ourselves into this mess because of a whole host of poor decisions over the last few years by the board, Fergie, Charlton et al. Now we need to fix it and unfortunately it's going to cost us massively to do so, and not just financially.

RasTa · 02-06-2014 12:41PM

Looking at Lambert, I'm surprised he passed a medical.

Mitch Connor · 02-06-2014 12:42PM

RasTa wrote: »

So why are you moaning if you already know what is going to happen?

Personally think we haven't signed anyone due to the World Cup.

Because it is more piss poor stuff from united, I don't like it even if I can predict it.m

Augmerson · 02-06-2014 12:42PM

RasTa wrote: »

Looking at Lambert, I'm surprised he passed a medical.

If Rooney can do it, Lambert can

RasTa · 02-06-2014 12:45PM

Augmerson wrote: »

If Rooney can do it, Lambert can

Yeah true, probably just don't look as toned because they are white.

Mikeyt086 · 02-06-2014 12:47PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Not really, you can do your research obviously, that just makes the guess an educated one, but a guess all the same.

Its actually more about getting your physics right. Watching the run up and standing foot, there are only so many places the ball can go. You have guys like Balotelli who deceive the keeper but the majority of penalty takers have tells as to where they are putting the ball. A goalie who just guesses and says "I'm diving left (or right)" won't win a lot of shootouts.

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