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Tax Changes under a Sinn Féin Government

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    I am collecting for those poor people of Sri Lanka and the Czech Republic.
    Please PM me your bank account details and I will forward your contribution on to where it will be greatly received.
    Collecting does no good Tayto but globalisation is doing a lot to help make the world more equal. People from the Czech Republic after all are free to come and work here indefinitely.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Collecting does no good Tayto but globalisation is doing a lot to help make the world more equal. People from the Czech Republic after all are free to come and work here indefinitely.
    Globlisation is a disaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Collecting does no good Tayto but globalisation is doing a lot to help make the world more equal. People from the Czech Republic after all are free to come and work here indefinitely.

    As the Irish can and have done for many years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Globlisation is a disaster.

    Why?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Why?
    For many reasons, one of main ones being communities getting destroyed with large uncontrolled immigration from the European Union and breeding tension in those areas.

    Although that is probably a bigger problem in England.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    For many reasons, one of main ones being communities getting destroyed with large uncontrolled immigration from the European Union and breeding tension in those areas.

    Can you give us an example of a community that has been destroyed by large uncontrolled immigration from the EU?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    For many reasons, one of main ones being communities getting destroyed with large uncontrolled immigration from the European Union and breeding tension in those areas.

    Although that is probably a bigger problem in England.

    You mean people moving from one country to another to make a better life for themselves is bad?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    communities getting destroyed with large uncontrolled immigration from the European Union and breeding tension in those areas.

    This is only a problem if the natives are closed minded bigots.

    A "community" is whoever is there. It isn't a distinct set of people who are destroyed by new people appearing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You mean people moving from one country to another to make a better life for themselves is bad?

    I have no problems with that at all except for the fact that there are little or no jobs for them and they end up on the dole. This is adding to the problem. I know a good many of them personally. Grand people but can't find work.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You mean people moving from one country to another to make a better life for themselves is bad?
    Except for many working class people it lessens the chances of them finding work. It has had a huge effect on working class people in communities.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    I have no problems with that at all except for the fact that there are little or no jobs for them and they end up on the dole. This is adding to the problem. I know a good many of them personally. Grand people but can't find work.

    I know more unemployed Irish people than non Irish people. 10 years ago the non Irish took the **** jobs that Irish felt was beneath them. Now they all still have jobs and pretty decent wages while i here Irish "friends" whinge about foreigners taking all of the jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Except for many working class people it lessens the chances of them finding work. It has had a huge effect on working class people in communities.

    But the Irish people heading off around the world to work, that's ok:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    For many reasons, one of main ones being communities getting destroyed with large uncontrolled immigration from the European Union and breeding tension in those areas.
    Care to give an example of a community destroyed by immigration?


    I have no problems with that at all except for the fact that there are little or no jobs for them and they end up on the dole. This is adding to the problem. I know a good many of them personally. Grand people but can't find work.
    Most immigrants I know have a better work ethic than the average Irish person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I know more unemployed Irish people than non Irish people. 10 years ago the non Irish took the **** jobs that Irish felt was beneath them. Now they all still have jobs and pretty decent wages while i here Irish "friends" whinge about foreigners taking all of the jobs.

    I know BUT even those jobs are hard to come by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    I know BUT even those jobs are hard to come by now.
    So working class Irish people are by birth right inherently entitled to these "hard to come by" jobs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    So working class Irish people are by birth right inherently entitled to these "hard to come by" jobs?

    Who said that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Who said that?
    You did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    You did.
    Where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Where?
    In the post I quoted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    In the post I quoted.

    Where did I mention that Irish people were entitled to anything?

    I said "even those jobs are hard to come by now" i.e. for anybody home-grown or immigrant.
    You have a strange way about you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Where did I mention that Irish people were entitled to anything?

    I said "even those jobs are hard to come by now" i.e. for anybody home-grown or immigrant.
    You have a strange way about you.
    Implying that since these jobs are hard to come by Irish people should get first preference over immigrants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Implying that since these jobs are hard to come by Irish people should get first preference over immigrants.

    I implied nothing of the sort.
    It was Bumper who brought those jobs up, not me.
    You are even stranger than I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Well. Have you anything to say?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    I know BUT even those jobs are hard to come by now.

    Not hard to come by per se, just employers are more selective of who they employ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Not hard to come by per se, just employers are more selective of who they employ.

    There's a little restaurant I use regularly.
    They are constantly advertising jobs but there seems to be new staff every few weeks. I can't understand it at all. You see a young lad/girl one week and they're gone two weeks later. Same where I work, new cleaner every few weeks. Any idea what's happening?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Care to give an example of a community destroyed by immigration?




    Most immigrants I know have a better work ethic than the average Irish person.
    Tower Hamlets for starters. It is a bigger issue in England.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    There's a little restaurant I use regularly.
    They are constantly advertising jobs but there seems to be new staff every few weeks. I can't understand it at all. You see a young lad/girl one week and they're gone two weeks later. Same where I work, new cleaner every few weeks. Any idea what's happening?

    Paying **** money?

    I go to starbucks every day twice a day (choice of 3) and it's the same staff every time.
    I go to McDonalds once a fortnight with my son as a treat and see the same staff all the time.
    I go to Tesco every week and see the same staff.
    I go to the local spar every day and see the same staff.

    Surprisingly (or not) 90% of them are non Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Tower Hamlets for starters. It is a bigger issue in England.
    And why has this community been "destroyed"? I just googled it, still looks standing to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    kippy wrote: »
    The real issue is the lack of realistic expectations among the general populace.
    There is no magic cure to getting 400K people off social welfare, reforming the civil and public service, reducing the current fiscal deficit (A few Billion), and reducing our debt of circa 180 BILLION. Particularily when a lot of the "low hanging fruit" has been plucked at this point.

    Pretty much the same overall decisions need to be made no matter who is in government.

    No they dont, unless you subscribe to Brutons belief that we should put up with another ten years of austerity "we" as he says what does he or anyone of his ilk know or ever will know about austerity. People should not accept another ten years of this is he off his head. Ive looked at Sinn Feins economic policies briefly I do have issues with some of them but that is for another time. The decisions you alude too in the above are in many ways/some completely - influenced by austerity induced defacto instructions, there are other ways,
    the gloves need to come off they should have been taken off a long time ago. We have been waiting for the markets/external forces to put us back on track the past six years and after following every instruction handed down to us pretty much to the letter where we could, its hasnt worked. and it wont. because that kind of approach is out of our hands. Getting a write down of the bank debt would be a start and a big help. We need to start forcing issues and start forcing them now. Apparently the IMF and European commission are "sympathetic" to our case for retroactive debt relief, I would questin that but apprently they are.

    The European central bank is not. That is who need to focus on.

    We can start by withdrawing our support for the proposed European banking Union which will place all eurozone banks under the all knowing all caring supervision of the ECB. phuck that. till we get our deal. I also want the ECB to release the Lennihan letter. The ECB is of the following view "that it was appropriate that the letter would not be disclosed at this time but indicated that it will reevaluate disclosure of the letter at a more advanced stage of post-programme surveillance.” post programme surveillance they say.that isnt good enough, release that letter.The magic cure was available when the banks needed bailing out. Its high time to take these people on properly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    And why has this community been "destroyed"? I just googled it, still looks standing to me.

    Have you anything to say to me?


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