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Turbo R.i.P

  • 31-05-2014 04:22PM
    #1
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭


    Hi all,my garage told me this morning that my turbo is fcuked anyone know what it will cost to replace it with a new one ,my car is a Audi a4 2.0 TDI


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  • #2
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Yes, mine went last month. Cost me €3,085.


  • #3
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    mullingar wrote: »
    Yes, mine went last month. Cost me €3,085.

    Omg that is a lot of money ..what type of car have you and can you give me a brake down on it parts,labour etc could I get a second hand one from a breakers yard I wonder .


  • #4
    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Did you not read the sign on the way in

    sarcasm-pic.jpg


  • #5
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Might be better getting a reconed one. Turbotech are the lads that do them I think

    E.g the price for a reconditioned turbo for a 1.6tdci/1.6hdi is €350inc vat and old unit.


  • #6
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Did you not think to ask the guy that told you it was ****ed? I'd have thought he'd have offered the information anyway, it's kind of how they work.


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  • #7
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Most of the time turbos bite the dust because people don't allow them to cool down by idling after driving or warm up before putting them under load. Infrequent/overdue oil changes also do damage to them.


  • #8
    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    The op will have to be more specific before anyone can give him an idea of the cost.

    There are two completely different models of an Audi a4 2.0tdi. The older B7 with the PD unit and the newer B8 with the CR unit.


  • #9
    randy hickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey


    On the Longmile Road:

    http://driveshaft.ie/products/turbochargers/


  • #10
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The op will have to be more specific before anyone can give him an idea of the cost.

    There are two completely different models of an Audi a4 2.0tdi. The older B7 with the PD unit and the newer B8 with the CR unit.

    Sorry about that its a b7 2.0tdi 170 bhp ...the garage is to get back to me next week ona price to fix it so just wonder what kind of money where talking about to fix it etc


  • #11
    DuckSlice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Most of the time turbos bite the dust because people don't allow them to cool down by idling after driving or warm up before putting them under load. Infrequent/overdue oil changes also do damage to them.


    You don't have to let them idle, just take it handy for the last mile of your journey. Don't let the turbo spool up. No need to sit wasting fuel!

    Prices vary depending where you go. I hear Sasha auto in Galway are decent for turbos.


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  • #12
    rugbyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭rugbyman


    My nephew sells recon turbos ,excellent quality , my guess is 600 ish for yours plus vat, one years gaurantee. BUT if your garageman merely bolts it on you are likely to have it fail. The cleaning required and changing the new oil shortly should take a good mechanic hours and hours. There are cheaper available but not as good (he says)
    pm me if interested.
    Have the make and model no of the turbo to hand before you ring anybody.

    not sure if I am allowed put his name on here


    Regards Rugbyman


  • #13
    JR1210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭JR1210


    fartman wrote: »
    Hi all,my garage told me this morning that my turbo is fcuked anyone know what it will cost to replace it with a new one ,my car is a Audi a4 2.0 TDI

    Go to http://www.vagcat.com/epc/ think you have to register
    Put in the details of your car and you will be able to get the turbo part number, youll find one reconditioned for about 250 on ebay or adverts
    I bought one off adverts for 220 euro delivered, brought the car up the north and they charged me £120 for labor - £30/hour is about right
    Mechanics in the south will quote you crazy money, mate was just quoted 600 for labor and was advised that it would be 4 hours. Not sure what mechanic is worth 150/hour
    You will also need to replace the oil and oil filter. You wont get a oil filter cheaper than the main dealer, you need the right oil so check online for cheapest


  • #14
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    OK so I am looking at 600 for reconditioned turbo + 50 pH for labour and it will be 4 hours to fit + oil and filter least I have fair idea now when I get the bill next week.cheers guys


  • #15
    Stoolbend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    What year is the A4?

    The most important thing is working out what caused it to fail. The most common cause, unless there's big mileage, would be low oil pressure.


  • #16
    Stoolbend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    Just saw the b7 part there.

    Is this the engine that the shaft for the oil pump fails?


  • #17
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    etxp wrote: »

    I hear Sasha auto in Galway are decent for turbos.

    I may be wrong, and apologies to them if I am, but have they not been mentioned in a bad light, here and in the media? A little bell in my head rang when I read the name.


  • #18
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    I may be wrong, and apologies to them if I am, but have they not been mentioned in a bad light, here and in the media? A little bell in my head rang when I read the name.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0207/312023-nct/

    Also from this post onward
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=75745449&postcount=1660

    basically avoid like the plague


  • #19
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    Stoolbend wrote: »
    Just saw the b7 part there.

    Is this the engine that the shaft for the oil pump fails?

    To be honest I don't know how can i tell what oil pump it has !


  • #20
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    What exactly happened when the turbo failed?


  • #21
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    George Dalton wrote: »
    What exactly happened when the turbo failed?

    Lots of smoke coming from the tail pipe with a strong smell of burning oil


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  • #22
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Did the red oil pressure warning light come on at all?


  • #23
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    George Dalton wrote: »
    Did the red oil pressure warning light come on at all?

    Got no warning lights at all mate ..


  • #24
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Your oil pump is probably ok so.


  • #25
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    George Dalton wrote: »
    Your oil pump is probably ok so.

    Hope so mate


  • #26
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Sure had a Saab 93 and turbo went with 92k miles on it and car was minded well.
    At the time recon turbo's were'nt around that I coulod find so cost €1260 new.

    I always let my car warm up for at least 2 minutes depending on how cold may be little longer and allow to cool for a minute or so and try let the fan do it's turn.

    VRs 2.0 petrol with 122,000miles ok so far.


  • #27
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Sure had a Saab 93 and turbo went with 92k miles on it and car was minded well.
    At the time recon turbo's were'nt around that I coulod find so cost €1260 new.

    I always let my car warm up for at least 2 minutes depending on how cold may be little longer and allow to cool for a minute or so and try let the fan do it's turn.

    VRs 2.0 petrol with 122,000miles ok so far.

    Very interesting about running your car for 2 mins before setting off that's something that I never done I always turn the key and go ...so when your engine is running is that heating up the turbo etc


  • #28
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    fartman wrote: »
    Very interesting about running your car for 2 mins before setting off that's something that I never done I always turn the key and go ...so when your engine is running is that heating up the turbo etc


    It is good as t let the oil circulate.

    Basically I start the car and wait for the auto choke to return needele to normal idle.

    It is neve good to get in and drive off and if you do never go straight off and floor it as this is real bad.

    I may be just over cautious but have always done it whether petrol or diesel turbo or none turbo.

    Always notice the car drives very different cold including gear changes as the gearbox hasn't warmed up also.


  • #29
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    Thanks for the tip mate


  • #30
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    It's actually worse to leave the car sitting there warming up. Cars aren't designed to be left sitting warming up, and will warm up quicker by being driven. Oil won't circulate properly around the gearbox unless the car is moving, so that's debunked that theory.

    The only part you're right about is that you shouldn't rag the car until it's warmed up properly.


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  • #31
    fartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    Garage rang me this morning and said it going to cost 1100 euro to fix the turbo god I feel sick and that's getting the turbo rebuilded and fitted ,Audi wanted 1600euro for a new turbo and that's not even fitted ..so anyone has a turbo on there car make sure your oil is clean or you could be facing a big bill .


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