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Misinformation regarding drugs.

  • 29-05-2014 04:44PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭


    The recent thread regarding Ecstasy/MDMA has got me thinking... Do you think some of the information about drugs is misleading and possibly damaging to the youth of today?

    When I was in secondary school we were shown a video regarding ecstasy. The video showed how a girl took ecstasy and died, the video then portrayed how her brother got bullied due to his sister's drug abuse and then he committed suicide.

    The main jist of the video was - if you take drugs you will die and your family may die!

    Obviously, we knew that was a load of nonsense as a large percentage of the class were taking ecstasy regularly and had seen no adverse effects from it.

    Thoughts?

    Is there too much misinformation regarding drugs today? 114 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    100% 114 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Drugs are bad, mmm'kay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Winners don't do drugs. Most of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 LimeTimee


    Drugs will never be legal because of the pharmaceutical companies on this island and don't forget we have to wait until America, UK and many other countries legalise, and then we will too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    gramar wrote: »
    Winners don't do drugs. Most of the time.

    Tell Lance Armstrong that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    I remember when i was younger and taking it there was only Leah Betts in the papers. It didnt frighten any of us as it was only one person and we were told she died due to drinking too much water while on it.

    There seems to be a lot of "bad" pills going around these days. If it was in the papers as much as it is now back in my day, i know i wouldnt be risking it. You'd wanna be a right creamer to go near those green yokes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,006 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Isn't that why we sent Ming to Europe? To get the herb legalised?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Thoughts?

    The only misinformation being peddled is that consuming illegal drugs is a harmless, victimless pursuit.

    Snorting mary-lou is a mugs game.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The bull**** about drugs makes it harder to get decent information out there and convince people of the actual dangers. By the time people are 14/15 they'll know people who've smoked spliff and been fine. So if the stuff about spliff was lies then why believe the scare stories about the rest?

    Honesty would make a massive difference when trying to convince kids about the actual issues there are with drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    The only misinformation being peddled is that consuming illegal drugs is a harmless, victimless pursuit.

    It would be if they were legalized. Obviously not harmless, but no more harmful that a lot of the other things we do that are legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,941 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The only misinformation being peddled is that consuming illegal drugs is a harmless, victimless pursuit.

    Snorting mary-lou is a mugs game.

    Is it not possible to have a sensible middle ground based on facts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Is it not possible to have a sensible middle ground based on facts?

    But the fact is that buying and consuming illegal drugs today supports violent criminal activity. What middle ground approach to that do you propose?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    I genuinely think if young teens were educated properly and honestly about drugs there would be a lot less drug abuse and deaths due to drug abuse in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Shazer01


    I genuinely think if young teens were educated properly and honestly about drugs there would be a lot less drug abuse and deaths due to drug abuse in this country.
    I completely agree. Education is key. Not sending people to jail where minor habit can become a much bigger problem. I think people should not go to prison for having enough for yourself. The gardai should concentrate more on the large scale production within the state and obviously trafficking in and out of the state. Supply of day cannabis should be controlled by the state. Simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Drugs are for losers like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs,Carl Sagan and Sigmund Freud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Misinformation on any subject is very stupid and can be extremely dangerous.

    Drug use is no exception.

    Majority of drugs will do very little damage if any.

    Weed,MDMA,LSD basically harmless and will produce a very good time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    The only misinformation being peddled is that consuming illegal drugs is a harmless, victimless pursuit.

    I don't think anybody is saying that. In fact it people generally tend to vastly overstate the harms of drugs.
    Snorting mary-lou is a mugs game.

    This I agree with. The average human nostril would never be able to fit Mary Lou McDonald up it. To even try to do so would extremely foolish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,941 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    But the fact is that buying and consuming illegal drugs today supports violent criminal activity. What middle ground approach to that do you propose?

    I take it you don't buy diamonds either or any other product which has a potential association with illegal activities? How about cigarettes? Alcohol?

    Can you stop moving the goal posts and focus on one thing? In relation to the OP, I'm fairly sure this is to do with the possible health effects of consuming drugs. (and the misinformation surrounding such)

    That particular discussion can be fact based as many of the side effects/issues are medically documented.

    Or we could just go down the usual hysterical 'DRUGS ARE BAD!' versus 'DRUGS ARE BRILLIANT! black and white argument which generally happens here ad nauseam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    But the fact is that buying and consuming illegal drugs today supports violent criminal activity. What middle ground approach to that do you propose?

    we either be allowed to grow it ourselves or have it properly regulated by the guberment.. keep the taxes low enough and the quality high enough that we have no need for criminals to buy it from.

    if you give me the option between a nice clean homegrown weed or some mental strain of skunk thats been sprayed with god knows what (from some guy called wacker in the flats), i know which one i'm going for every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    The recent thread regarding Ecstasy/MDMA has got me thinking... Do you think some of the information about drugs is misleading and possibly damaging to the youth of today?

    Any advice that deals in absolutes and doesn't encourage free thinking on the matter is propaganda. I think there are lots of people ago shouldn't indulge in substances for a variety of reasons, but teaching kids and teenagers that 'drugs are bad', as a previous post so eloquently put it in a satirical manner, is ridiculous, really. Mostly because most drugs aren't all bad if done in moderation, and hammering a point down like that is counter-intuitive i.e. it leads to a public opinion revolt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    But the fact is that buying and consuming illegal drugs today supports violent criminal activity. What middle ground approach to that do you propose?
    Them being regulated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭BetterThanThou


    I definitely think there's too much misinformation when it comes to drugs, and very hard to find information that comes from a neutral point of view. Personally, I think all unnatural drugs are bad news, I'd never touch them, I've seen the effects some of them can have, and I feel there's too much potential for dangerous ingredients to be used. But I know a lot of people who don't share the same mindset as me, once they realize weed isn't as bad as people say it is, they get under the impression that harder drugs such as coke and acid aren't either. The whole thing is definitely too black and white. Hell, when my family found out I enjoy to smoke occasionally, half my family labeled me as a junkie, and the other half was asking if I wanted to split a bag with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Freddie Dodge


    Life is great just as it is, without altering one's perception of reality.

    Change your reality if it bothers you so much.

    Idiots use substances to alter their perception temporarily, rather than actually doing something constructive to change it.

    Some of them don't make it/natural selection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    So we should all become junkies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    I can't be the only person in the world who has never taken completely illegal drugs. Anyone else??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Life is great just as it is, without altering one's perception of reality.

    Change your reality if it bothers you so much.

    Idiots use substances to alter their perception temporarily, rather than actually doing something constructive to change it.

    Some of them don't make it/natural selection.

    Every single thing you do / ingest, that isn't absolutely vital to your survival, is to alter / distort your perception temporarily. Every. Single. Thing. Including cups of tea and biscuits. And watching tv shows.

    Some people's perception of reality is so distressing to them that they need more extreme forms of reality distortion. Don't judge. Sympathise, ideally, or at least understand.

    (Calling them idiots probably isn't going to make their reality better.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭bur


    I mean, what great music was ever made on drugs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Any advice that deals in absolutes and doesn't encourage free thinking on the matter is propaganda. I think there are lots of people ago shouldn't indulge in substances for a variety of reasons, but teaching kids and teenagers that 'drugs are bad', as a previous post so eloquently put it in a satirical manner, is ridiculous, really. Mostly because most drugs aren't all bad if done in moderation, and hammering a point down like that is counter-intuitive i.e. it leads to a public opinion revolt.

    When have you know the majority of Irish people do anything in moderation, the same is true for alcohol and look how that turned out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    whirlpool wrote: »
    I can't be the only person in the world who has never taken completely illegal drugs. Anyone else??

    Na, plenty of people haven't. It's just that drug users spend an inordinate amount of time trying to justify their habits. Sad really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    whirlpool wrote: »
    I can't be the only person in the world who has never taken completely illegal drugs. Anyone else??

    I haven't either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 MY CUP OF TEA


    whirlpool wrote: »
    I can't be the only person in the world who has never taken completely illegal drugs. Anyone else??

    nope me neither...never felt the need, im annoying enough as it is ;)


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