Scaremongering about cannabis on Crimecall right now

Miprocin · 27-05-2014 07:36PM

A psychiatric nurse once told me that half the people that came into the hospital was because of cannabis,quite surprised by it but there you go.

Seems to be an example of Sampling Bias.

Am I the only one who misread the title as cannibals?

LOL

desultory · 27-05-2014 07:51PM

Xeyn wrote: »

The short sightedness of people never seems to surprise me any more.

If you can explain how smoking cannabis makes one want to drive whilst under the influence of cannabis then explain away.
Otherwise you could admit that you're talking shíte and we'll all be on our way?

catallus · 27-05-2014 07:57PM

If you get the munchies and you have to drive to the shop?

Miprocin · 27-05-2014 08:17PM

catallus wrote: »

If you get the munchies and you have to drive to the shop?

Ahh, now. Don't be ridiculous. That's gross stupidity and stupid people will be stupid regardless of cannabis use.

catallus · 27-05-2014 08:18PM

You, sir, have obviously never had the munchies.

desultory · 27-05-2014 08:29PM

catallus wrote: »

If you get the munchies and you have to drive to the shop?

I order takeaway

but just so we're clear, by that line of thinking..if the person who is smoking the cannabis cannot drive or does not have a car, there is no immediate danger? seeing as that was the only reason cited, and it's laughable

I Heart Internet · 28-05-2014 12:55AM

ScumLord wrote: »

As far as I can make out you're saying "discuss cannabis sure, just don't mention cannabis".

Not at all!! Discuss it an other illegal drugs all you like. My problem is with people who encourage (or at least fail to discourage) people from taking illegal and potentially harmful drugs.

I Heart Internet · 28-05-2014 11:37AM

I see the One Erection lads are at it now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2637722/ONE-DIRECTION-EXCLUSIVE-Joint-lit-Happy-days-Watch-Zayn-Malik-Louis-Tomlinson-smoke-roll-cigarette-joke-marijuana-way-tour-concert.html

Bob Marley t-shirt and all!!

Hopefully the unrelenting naffness of this image will put many people off using cannabis.

timtime · 28-05-2014 12:04PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Jesus I can't believe this debate is happening on AH yet again. Do people not get bored of talking about the same things over and over again? Its always the same posters too.

it will continue til the cardigans running the country decriminalise cannabis users, when that day comes i will start voting in this state in elections

I Heart Internet · 28-05-2014 12:30PM

timtime wrote: »

it will continue til the cardigans running the country decriminalise cannabis users, when that day comes i will start voting in this state in elections

Huh???

Would you not consider voting now and try to vote in people who will change the laws as you wish?

My name is URL · 28-05-2014 12:46PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

I see the One Erection lads are at it now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2637722/ONE-DIRECTION-EXCLUSIVE-Joint-lit-Happy-days-Watch-Zayn-Malik-Louis-Tomlinson-smoke-roll-cigarette-joke-marijuana-way-tour-concert.html

Bob Marley t-shirt and all!!

Hopefully the unrelenting naffness of this image will put many people off using cannabis.

They're smoking a rolled up cigarette in that video.. not marijuana. Even by Daily Fail standards that's a terrible article.

I Heart Internet · 28-05-2014 12:52PM

My name is URL wrote: »

They're smoking a rolled up cigarette in that video.. not marijuana. Even by Daily Fail standards that's a terrible article.

How do you know for sure? As a matter of interest...

My name is URL · 28-05-2014 01:20PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

How do you know for sure? As a matter of interest...

I guess I don't know for sure, but I'd be genuinely surprised if their minders and agents allowed them to videotape themselves using drugs in such a scenario.

Even if it is a real joint.. big swinging mickey. Musicians smoking pot isn't exactly all that shocking these days!

I Heart Internet · 28-05-2014 01:29PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I guess I don't know for sure, but I'd be genuinely surprised if their minders and agents allowed them to videotape themselves using drugs in such a scenario.

Even if it is a real joint.. big swinging mickey. Musicians smoking pot isn't exactly all that shocking these days!

You'd want to be fairly dim to use an illegal drug in a country you weren't sure of the legal situation in alright. End up sharing a cell with those two Irish girls

It looks like they're just playing up to the camera. Seriously though, the Bob Marley t-shirt and all, just tragically stale.

griffdaddy · 28-05-2014 01:32PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Musicians smoking pot isn't exactly all that shocking these days!

¿Qué?

timtime · 28-05-2014 01:42PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Huh???

Would you not consider voting now and try to vote in people who will change the laws as you wish?

no party or independants in my area are pro legalisation, look at the results of Mings bill

timtime · 28-05-2014 01:46PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

How do you know for sure? As a matter of interest...

exactly, although maybe they cant afford .real cig being struggling musicians

popepaisley1 · 28-05-2014 01:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I had to attend mental health services at the age of 17, having suffered from depression since childhood, but didn't become unmanageable till then... I do recall one of the first questions asked of me related to drug use, specifically marijuana. Have you smoked it? Yes. Case closed.

No amount of protesting that I smoked the odd joint with my brother, counting about six times in four years, would make any difference to their opinion on my diagnosis. I was labelled a drug user and my real medical issues were at that time not addressed. This kind of scaremongering then can definitely have an unseen backlash. I understand that some rare risks are involved in marijuana use but please. It can at times become a scapegoat, as I believe it is in this instance. No, I didn't watch the show either.

this reminds me of a friend of mine who had to attend AA. before he went he was asked did he ever do drugs. he admitted to smoking weed once...which was actually true. he only ever smoked it ONCE. next thing he was told that he needed to go to NA too.

so off he toddles to his NA meeting. he is sitting in a room with people whose lives have been ruined by drugs, people who used hard drugs regularly. people who had lost everything because of their addictions. anyway they turn to my mate and ask him to tell his story. 'umm...well i smoked a pot joint once'.

i think he was actually run out of the building

ScumLord · 28-05-2014 02:04PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Not at all!! Discuss it an other illegal drugs all you like. My problem is with people who encourage (or at least fail to discourage) people from taking illegal and potentially harmful drugs.

I can discourage them the same way I'd discourage them not to over drink or be safe while out on the river but outside of that the risks are fairly low and I've run out of bad things to say.

richy · 28-05-2014 08:43PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

You'd want to be fairly dim to use an illegal drug in a country you weren't sure of the legal situation in alright. End up sharing a cell with those two Irish girls

It looks like they're just playing up to the camera. Seriously though, the Bob Marley t-shirt and all, just tragically stale.

They were in Peru where cannabis isn't illegal for personal use. Your equating people who smuggled kilos of cocaine with smoking a joint.

timtime wrote: »

no party or independants in my area are pro legalisation, look at the results of Mings bill

The Green Party are pro legalisation.

kikidelvin · 29-05-2014 12:35AM

Anyone know what was around first tobacco or weed?

Pocoyo · 29-05-2014 12:59AM

Cannabis causes depression anxiety and is psychologically addictive as im sure many of you supporting the drug know. Also the people that import the drug or grow it on a large scale on your behalf are organized vicious criminals. Get the law changed if you wish to smoke it until then you are part of the problem. And dear god if you any of you posters have children just dont use it at all.

richy · 29-05-2014 01:31AM

Pocoyo wrote: »

Cannabis causes depression anxiety and is psychologically addictive as im sure many of you supporting the drug know. Also the people that import the drug or grow it on a large scale on your behalf are organized vicious criminals. Get the law changed if you wish to smoke it until then you are part of the problem. And dear god if you any of you posters have children just dont use it at all.

Cannabis does not cause depression. People with depression tend to self medicate. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2400032/Could-marijuana-GOOD-mental-health-Breakthrough-study-claims-drug-used-help-treat-depression.html

Anxiety is true but in different amounts. Sometimes it can cause a little bit of anxiety around things I was already anxious about. Very rare though. Not a reason for it to be illegal and not harmful really. Psychologically addictive is a habit not an addiction. The people who are organized viscous criminals were created and kept in business by the government who keeps it illegal. I did not nor did my fellow cannabis users create this problem by making it illegal. If alcohols as made illegal tomorrow I guarantee 90% of alcohol users would continue to use alcohol regardless of who is brewing it.

I Heart Internet · 29-05-2014 10:33AM

Pocoyo wrote: »

Also the people that import the drug or grow it on a large scale on your behalf are organized vicious criminals. Get the law changed if you wish to smoke it until then you are part of the problem.

This!!

desultory · 29-05-2014 11:13AM

So just to sum up, as long as you don't drive and grow the cannabis yourself, it's 100% safe?

kylith · 29-05-2014 11:21AM

desultory wrote: »

So just to sum up, as long as you don't drive and grow the cannabis yourself, it's 100% safe?

As long as you don't get anxious about anything

Too Tough To Die · 29-05-2014 12:26PM

I wouldn't be surprised if a certain amount of weed made you a better driver. Does for me on the xbox anyways.

end of the road · 29-05-2014 04:17PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Not at all!! Discuss it an other illegal drugs all you like. My problem is with people who encourage (or at least fail to discourage) people from taking illegal and potentially harmful drugs.

legal drugs are harmful also, should we discourage people from taking them also?

I Heart Internet · 29-05-2014 04:19PM

end of the road wrote: »

legal drugs are harmful also, should we discourage people from taking them also?

Yes. Of course.

Especially if they have the potential to induce sudden death.

wowjustwow · 12-06-2014 04:24PM

I'm an alcoholic. Not the drink every day kind, but the kind who turns into an out of control, I don't know what I'm doing/saying arsehole after hitting the drink. I quit drinking around a year ago and started smoking weed instead. I have been smoking weed on/off since I was 16 so it was nothing new for me.

I'm not going to list the benefits/detriments of cannabis because the anti legalisation/decriminalisation crew just wont listen and those who are pro legalisation already know. But I can say that my life has gotten so much better since I started smoking weed full time its incredible. I smoke a small amount regularly all day every day and cannot stress enough how much better I feel.

I sleep well, eat well and far from feeling less motivated, I find that I am more motivated and focused on the task at hand. My high blood pressure has been significantly reduced and the depression I felt for years while drinking is all but a distant memory.

I'm sure once the world wakes up (as is starting to happen) and realises that prohibition of cannabis must end, we will all be far better off. Alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical corporate interests be damned! This country has been so negatively impacted by alcohol it's laughable.

Ask any Garda on the street and they will tell you they would much rather deal with someone who has had a few spliffs than someone who is after drink. Says it all in my opinion.

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